Working with Doc Office

[Guest guest]

I've not worked in a doctor's office, but just a comment on the tails of the

early " negotiating " post I sent to this listserv.

You write:

" Or do you just have to accept what the going rate is? "

THERE IS NEVER SUCH A THING AS A " GOING RATE " unless you believe there is

and are NOT willing to negotiate!

Okay, now go and negotiate your best deal! ;-)

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 9/10/2008 11:39:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

juliesheerin@... writes:

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been

approached by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their

office) a

few hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you

with experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do

you just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal

business where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make

at

the Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel

Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity

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[Guest guest]

I've not worked in a doctor's office, but just a comment on the tails of the

early " negotiating " post I sent to this listserv.

You write:

" Or do you just have to accept what the going rate is? "

THERE IS NEVER SUCH A THING AS A " GOING RATE " unless you believe there is

and are NOT willing to negotiate!

Okay, now go and negotiate your best deal! ;-)

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 9/10/2008 11:39:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

juliesheerin@... writes:

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been

approached by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their

office) a

few hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you

with experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do

you just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal

business where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make

at

the Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel

Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity

IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the

individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that

is

privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If

you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not

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e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify

the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and

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incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability

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[Guest guest]

I've not worked in a doctor's office, but just a comment on the tails of the

early " negotiating " post I sent to this listserv.

You write:

" Or do you just have to accept what the going rate is? "

THERE IS NEVER SUCH A THING AS A " GOING RATE " unless you believe there is

and are NOT willing to negotiate!

Okay, now go and negotiate your best deal! ;-)

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 9/10/2008 11:39:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

juliesheerin@... writes:

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been

approached by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their

office) a

few hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you

with experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do

you just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal

business where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make

at

the Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel

Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity

IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the

individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that

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you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not

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incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability

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result of e-mail transmission.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been approached

by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their office) a few

hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you with

experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do you

just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal business

where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make at the

Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

[Guest guest]

I can only help with what not to do.  When I was fresh out of school I was hired

by an MD I met at a hospital where I was working per diem.  He was a very nice

man who really wanted an RD to do consults.  I got paid a set rate by the MD for

an hour (initial) and half hour (follow up) consult.  The problem I had was that

I lived about 30-40 minutes away and a couple times the clients didn't show. 

Being young, and not too savvy I didn't think to insist on payment!  I did tell

the doc I couldn't do it any more and why.  He was very upset about the whole

thing and spoke to his office manager and she had to call the clients ahead to

confirm and if they weren't going to show they would call me.  I then got a

full-time job so I had to quit anyway, but I would suggest you work out that you

get paid either way unless they give sufficient notice of cancellation since

that's how the doctor's offices work it.

 

Barbara Romero, RD

Subject: Re: Working with Doc Office

To: rd-usa

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:09 PM

I've not worked in a doctor's office, but just a comment on the tails of the

early " negotiating " post I sent to this listserv.

You write:

" Or do you just have to accept what the going rate is? "

THERE IS NEVER SUCH A THING AS A " GOING RATE " unless you believe there is

and are NOT willing to negotiate!

Okay, now go and negotiate your best deal! ;-)

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 9/10/2008 11:39:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

juliesheerin@ chartermi. net writes:

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been

approached by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their

office) a

few hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you

with experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do

you just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal

business where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make

at

the Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel

Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity

IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the

individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that

is

privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If

you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not

consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this

e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify

the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and

destroy the transmitted information.

E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as

information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late,

incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability

for

any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a

result of e-mail transmission.

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

I can only help with what not to do.  When I was fresh out of school I was hired

by an MD I met at a hospital where I was working per diem.  He was a very nice

man who really wanted an RD to do consults.  I got paid a set rate by the MD for

an hour (initial) and half hour (follow up) consult.  The problem I had was that

I lived about 30-40 minutes away and a couple times the clients didn't show. 

Being young, and not too savvy I didn't think to insist on payment!  I did tell

the doc I couldn't do it any more and why.  He was very upset about the whole

thing and spoke to his office manager and she had to call the clients ahead to

confirm and if they weren't going to show they would call me.  I then got a

full-time job so I had to quit anyway, but I would suggest you work out that you

get paid either way unless they give sufficient notice of cancellation since

that's how the doctor's offices work it.

 

Barbara Romero, RD

Subject: Re: Working with Doc Office

To: rd-usa

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:09 PM

I've not worked in a doctor's office, but just a comment on the tails of the

early " negotiating " post I sent to this listserv.

You write:

" Or do you just have to accept what the going rate is? "

THERE IS NEVER SUCH A THING AS A " GOING RATE " unless you believe there is

and are NOT willing to negotiate!

Okay, now go and negotiate your best deal! ;-)

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

In a message dated 9/10/2008 11:39:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

juliesheerin@ chartermi. net writes:

Hi Everyone...

I have been in private practice for several years and have now been

approached by a Physicians group who want my services (counseling in their

office) a

few hours a week. They would do billing for me. My questions to those of you

with experience in this area are:

1. Do you have a sample contract I can view? Is there anything in this area

that you recommend I do/not do?

2. How are you paid? A set rate by the office, or only " as you are used " ?

Say, if an insurace company only reimburses part of what you normally charge,

does the medical office make up the difference so you get paid fully? Or do

you just have to accept what the going rate is? I need to know if this would be

worth the time, especially if I am " giving up " a slot from my personal

business where the client pays out of pocket, and likely more than I would make

at

the Physicians office.

3. Do you get paid for " no-shows " ?

Any other help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

J. Sheerin, RD

Traverse City, MI

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel

Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity

IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the

individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that

is

privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If

you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not

consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this

e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify

the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and

destroy the transmitted information.

E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as

information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late,

incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability

for

any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a

result of e-mail transmission.

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)