Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some sunshine plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood Vitamin D. I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. My advice for the day :-) -- Ortiz, RD The best vitamin for making friends..... is B1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Two follow up points to Margie's post. 1. Concerning low Vitamin D in your newborn infant. I heard Dr. Bruce Hollis, PhD, a vitamin D researcher in May. He released results of studies currently underway under NIH grants, concerning the amount of Vitamin D that nursing moms need to consume to assure adequate Vitamin D levels in their breast milk It's 6000 IU daily. The reason your infant is deficient is due to your own Vitamin D status. The second link in the url below is a presentation he gave at USCD in April 2008 on Vitamin D requirements in pregnancy and lactation. When he spoke at our state dietetic association meeting he recommended supplementing the lactating mom rather than the less reliable route of getting it directly into the infant. He mentioned that he got into this research after questioning what we were taught for years, that breast milk is a poor source of Vitamin D. If that had been consistently true in past millennia the human race would not have reproduced as well as we have as rachitic pelvises could not support carrying and delivering an infant. The reason milk is not a good source of vitamin D is because the lactating mom is deficient in Vitamin D. http://www.grassrootshealth.org/seminar_presentations.htm 2, Here is a post today by Dr. Mercola. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/20/warning-are-your-v\ itamin-d-test-results-valid.aspx?source=nl I look at what he says as one opinion among many. His presenting about the kinds of assay used in determining 25 (OH) Vitamin D is interesting. Makes me want to check on the technology and lab used when I had mine tested. Interesting that the method used by Mayo Clinics and Quest Diagnostics may measure high compared to the standard assays used by Vitamin D researchers. Pat Bollinger, MS RD Helena, MT Margie Hirsch wrote: > > My newborn infant was tested and she was low in vitamin D as well. I > plan I getting mine tested when I see my PCP next. > > Margie Hirsch,MFCS,RD,LD > > Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com>> wrote: > STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test > I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some > sunshine > plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood > Vitamin D. > I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. > tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. > > My advice for the day :-) > > -- > Ortiz, RD > The best vitamin > for making friends..... is B1. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I follow Dr. Hollis' research (sorry all due respect but anything that Dr. Mercola writes I have begun to ignore because he gives so many untruths and alarmist posts to sell his dietary supplements). A great site to use of Dr. Hollis' and to sign up for newsletters is: http://vitamindcouncil.org/ That is new regarding mom's increasing their breast milk Vit D - thanks for the info. I will see if he has any research on it on his website. Moms (me included many " moons " ago when I BF and had to give my kids Tri-Vi-Sol) hate giving their kids the drops. MESSY! The prescription I got which is becoming standard is: (some variations) 50,000 IU po q week x 8 and then 50,000 IU monthly > Two follow up points to Margie's post. > > 1. Concerning low Vitamin D in your newborn infant. I heard Dr. Bruce > Hollis, PhD, a vitamin D researcher in May. He released results of > studies currently underway under NIH grants, concerning the amount of > Vitamin D that nursing moms need to consume to assure adequate Vitamin D > levels in their breast milk It's 6000 IU daily. The reason your > infant is deficient is due to your own Vitamin D status. The second > link in the url below is a presentation he gave at USCD in April 2008 on > Vitamin D requirements in pregnancy and lactation. When he spoke at our > state dietetic association meeting he recommended supplementing the > lactating mom rather than the less reliable route of getting it directly > into the infant. He mentioned that he got into this research after > questioning what we were taught for years, that breast milk is a poor > source of Vitamin D. If that had been consistently true in past > millennia the human race would not have reproduced as well as we have > as rachitic pelvises could not support carrying and delivering an > infant. The reason milk is not a good source of vitamin D is because > the lactating mom is deficient in Vitamin D. > > http://www.grassrootshealth.org/seminar_presentations.htm > > 2, Here is a post today by Dr. Mercola. > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/20/warning-are-your-v\ itamin-d-test-results-valid.aspx?source=nl > > I look at what he says as one opinion among many. His presenting about > the kinds of assay used in determining 25 (OH) Vitamin D is > interesting. Makes me want to check on the technology and lab used when > I had mine tested. Interesting that the method used by Mayo Clinics > and Quest Diagnostics may measure high compared to the standard assays > used by Vitamin D researchers. > > Pat Bollinger, MS RD > Helena, MT > > > Margie Hirsch wrote: > > > > My newborn infant was tested and she was low in vitamin D as well. I > > plan I getting mine tested when I see my PCP next. > > > > Margie Hirsch,MFCS,RD,LD > > > > Ortiz <nrord1@... <nrord1%40gmail.com> <mailto: > nrord1%40gmail.com <nrord1%2540gmail.com>>> wrote: > > STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test > > I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some > > sunshine > > plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood > > Vitamin D. > > I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. > > tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. > > > > My advice for the day :-) > > > > -- > > Ortiz, RD > > The best vitamin > > for making friends..... is B1. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Found this link: > http://vitamindcouncil.org/researchPregnancy.shtml > > > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Pat Bollinger wrote: > >> Two follow up points to Margie's post. >> >> 1. Concerning low Vitamin D in your newborn infant. I heard Dr. Bruce >> Hollis, PhD, a vitamin D researcher in May. He released results of >> studies currently underway under NIH grants, concerning the amount of >> Vitamin D that nursing moms need to consume to assure adequate Vitamin D >> levels in their breast milk It's 6000 IU daily. The reason your >> infant is deficient is due to your own Vitamin D status. The second >> link in the url below is a presentation he gave at USCD in April 2008 on >> Vitamin D requirements in pregnancy and lactation. When he spoke at our >> state dietetic association meeting he recommended supplementing the >> lactating mom rather than the less reliable route of getting it directly >> into the infant. He mentioned that he got into this research after >> questioning what we were taught for years, that breast milk is a poor >> source of Vitamin D. If that had been consistently true in past >> millennia the human race would not have reproduced as well as we have >> as rachitic pelvises could not support carrying and delivering an >> infant. The reason milk is not a good source of vitamin D is because >> the lactating mom is deficient in Vitamin D. >> >> http://www.grassrootshealth.org/seminar_presentations.htm >> >> 2, Here is a post today by Dr. Mercola. >> >> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/20/warning-are-your-v\ itamin-d-test-results-valid.aspx?source=nl >> >> I look at what he says as one opinion among many. His presenting about >> the kinds of assay used in determining 25 (OH) Vitamin D is >> interesting. Makes me want to check on the technology and lab used when >> I had mine tested. Interesting that the method used by Mayo Clinics >> and Quest Diagnostics may measure high compared to the standard assays >> used by Vitamin D researchers. >> >> Pat Bollinger, MS RD >> Helena, MT >> >> >> Margie Hirsch wrote: >> > >> > My newborn infant was tested and she was low in vitamin D as well. I >> > plan I getting mine tested when I see my PCP next. >> > >> > Margie Hirsch,MFCS,RD,LD >> > >> > Ortiz <nrord1@... <nrord1%40gmail.com> <mailto: >> nrord1%40gmail.com <nrord1%2540gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test >> > I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some >> > sunshine >> > plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood >> > Vitamin D. >> > I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. >> > tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. >> > >> > My advice for the day :-) >> > >> > -- >> > Ortiz, RD >> > The best vitamin >> > for making friends..... is B1. >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Found this link: > http://vitamindcouncil.org/researchPregnancy.shtml > > > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Pat Bollinger wrote: > >> Two follow up points to Margie's post. >> >> 1. Concerning low Vitamin D in your newborn infant. I heard Dr. Bruce >> Hollis, PhD, a vitamin D researcher in May. He released results of >> studies currently underway under NIH grants, concerning the amount of >> Vitamin D that nursing moms need to consume to assure adequate Vitamin D >> levels in their breast milk It's 6000 IU daily. The reason your >> infant is deficient is due to your own Vitamin D status. The second >> link in the url below is a presentation he gave at USCD in April 2008 on >> Vitamin D requirements in pregnancy and lactation. When he spoke at our >> state dietetic association meeting he recommended supplementing the >> lactating mom rather than the less reliable route of getting it directly >> into the infant. He mentioned that he got into this research after >> questioning what we were taught for years, that breast milk is a poor >> source of Vitamin D. If that had been consistently true in past >> millennia the human race would not have reproduced as well as we have >> as rachitic pelvises could not support carrying and delivering an >> infant. The reason milk is not a good source of vitamin D is because >> the lactating mom is deficient in Vitamin D. >> >> http://www.grassrootshealth.org/seminar_presentations.htm >> >> 2, Here is a post today by Dr. Mercola. >> >> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/09/20/warning-are-your-v\ itamin-d-test-results-valid.aspx?source=nl >> >> I look at what he says as one opinion among many. His presenting about >> the kinds of assay used in determining 25 (OH) Vitamin D is >> interesting. Makes me want to check on the technology and lab used when >> I had mine tested. Interesting that the method used by Mayo Clinics >> and Quest Diagnostics may measure high compared to the standard assays >> used by Vitamin D researchers. >> >> Pat Bollinger, MS RD >> Helena, MT >> >> >> Margie Hirsch wrote: >> > >> > My newborn infant was tested and she was low in vitamin D as well. I >> > plan I getting mine tested when I see my PCP next. >> > >> > Margie Hirsch,MFCS,RD,LD >> > >> > Ortiz <nrord1@... <nrord1%40gmail.com> <mailto: >> nrord1%40gmail.com <nrord1%2540gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test >> > I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some >> > sunshine >> > plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood >> > Vitamin D. >> > I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. >> > tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. >> > >> > My advice for the day :-) >> > >> > -- >> > Ortiz, RD >> > The best vitamin >> > for making friends..... is B1. >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 It surprises me that so little thought is being given to the nutrients and anti- nutrients that will affect Vit D status. I am still putting my own research together for this but i get the impression that lead seems a common problem here. It might have been taken out of gasoline but it seems it can be found in chocolate, cheaper plastics often used for food storage and inside the wicks used in many candles. Also due to chemical properties it seems, from more recent research, that fluoridation 'enhances' lead content in the water. I am beginning to suspect that the discovery of widespread D deficiency might have a very interesting etiology that is not solely due to sunscreen and sitting indoors. Do others have any information about this? regards, Hart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I, too, was deficient in D despite the MVI and CA w/D (and some sun exposure) I was taking. After 1 year with 2000iu D added to my vitamin program I am now in the 70-80 range. Madalyn Re: Vitamin D recommendation Thanks Pat for your response. You answered a question I was about to post (about the assays). The rest of the information is also VERY useful to me. , you're not the first person I have heard say this. So, what* is *the recommendation for someone who already supplements with Vit D like you? Vitamin D has become a hot topic over the last few years. I wonder what experts speculate is behind all the deficiencies. .. -Renata On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Pat Bollinger <pbollingbresnan (DOT) net> wrote: > Two follow up points to Margie's post. > > 1. Concerning low Vitamin D in your newborn infant. I heard Dr. Bruce > Hollis, PhD, a vitamin D researcher in May. He released results of > studies currently underway under NIH grants, concerning the amount of > Vitamin D that nursing moms need to consume to assure adequate Vitamin D > levels in their breast milk It's 6000 IU daily. The reason your > infant is deficient is due to your own Vitamin D status. The second > link in the url below is a presentation he gave at USCD in April 2008 on > Vitamin D requirements in pregnancy and lactation. When he spoke at our > state dietetic association meeting he recommended supplementing the > lactating mom rather than the less reliable route of getting it directly > into the infant. He mentioned that he got into this research after > questioning what we were taught for years, that breast milk is a poor > source of Vitamin D. If that had been consistently true in past > millennia the human race would not have reproduced as well as we have > as rachitic pelvises could not support carrying and delivering an > infant. The reason milk is not a good source of vitamin D is because > the lactating mom is deficient in Vitamin D. > > http://www.grassroo tshealth. org/seminar_ presentations. htm > > 2, Here is a post today by Dr. Mercola. > > http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 09/20/warning- are-your- vitamin-d- test-results- valid.aspx? source=nl > > I look at what he says as one opinion among many. His presenting about > the kinds of assay used in determining 25 (OH) Vitamin D is > interesting. Makes me want to check on the technology and lab used when > I had mine tested. Interesting that the method used by Mayo Clinics > and Quest Diagnostics may measure high compared to the standard assays > used by Vitamin D researchers. > > Pat Bollinger, MS RD > Helena, MT > > > Margie Hirsch wrote: > > > > My newborn infant was tested and she was low in vitamin D as well. I > > plan I getting mine tested when I see my PCP next. > > > > Margie Hirsch,MFCS, RD,LD > > > > Ortiz <nrord1gmail (DOT) com <nrord1%40gmail. com> <mailto: > nrord1%40gmail. com <nrord1%2540gmail. com>>> wrote: > > STRONG Recommendation: VItamin D test > > I, who takes Vitamin D (1000 IU+/day in supplements) and have some > > sunshine > > plus Vitamin D in some of my foods, actually tested low in blood > > Vitamin D. > > I recommend everyone get theirs tested. I am very impressed that my Dr. > > tests for it because I was going to ask but she beat me to it. > > > > My advice for the day :-) > > > > -- > > Ortiz, RD > > The best vitamin > > for making friends..... is B1. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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