Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 that is right Lynda Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 that is right Lynda Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 that is right Lynda Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I would get to a DR or Smokies labs and run some tests. Being hypo can have the same effects as adrenal issues. Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I would get to a DR or Smokies labs and run some tests. Being hypo can have the same effects as adrenal issues. Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I would get to a DR or Smokies labs and run some tests. Being hypo can have the same effects as adrenal issues. Re: adrenal support What are your symptoms of Hyper? When first went on adrenal supplement I got a 'kick' ...... With the adrenals having the help of the supplement it can really improve the way that you feel... at that point it may be that you need less Armour, so that could make you feel a bit hyper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Hi Lynda! I am so glad to see all the great support you are getting from folks here. One comment I have concerning you stopping the Armour----your basal temps point to you being hypo, not hyper, in spite of the " hyper- like " symptoms you are having. So stopping your Armour might only serve to allow other problems to take hold even more, besides worsening your hypo!! You stated the weeping has increased---that could be a direct result of stopping that thyroid support, which ALSO makes female issue even worse!! Everthing works together. And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Janie aka ThyroDiva > Thanks for your reply. > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started taking the cortef. > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Hi Lynda! I am so glad to see all the great support you are getting from folks here. One comment I have concerning you stopping the Armour----your basal temps point to you being hypo, not hyper, in spite of the " hyper- like " symptoms you are having. So stopping your Armour might only serve to allow other problems to take hold even more, besides worsening your hypo!! You stated the weeping has increased---that could be a direct result of stopping that thyroid support, which ALSO makes female issue even worse!! Everthing works together. And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Janie aka ThyroDiva > Thanks for your reply. > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started taking the cortef. > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Hi Lynda! I am so glad to see all the great support you are getting from folks here. One comment I have concerning you stopping the Armour----your basal temps point to you being hypo, not hyper, in spite of the " hyper- like " symptoms you are having. So stopping your Armour might only serve to allow other problems to take hold even more, besides worsening your hypo!! You stated the weeping has increased---that could be a direct result of stopping that thyroid support, which ALSO makes female issue even worse!! Everthing works together. And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Janie aka ThyroDiva > Thanks for your reply. > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started taking the cortef. > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Oh, I am sure of that! I am almost menopausal, 7 months since last period. I know of people who have had great results with progesterone cream but it does nothing for me, in fact it probably screws up the hormonal thing even more. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Oh, I am sure of that! I am almost menopausal, 7 months since last period. I know of people who have had great results with progesterone cream but it does nothing for me, in fact it probably screws up the hormonal thing even more. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 And like Carol surmissed, you could be having female hormonal issues on top of your thyroid issues!! Oh, I am sure of that! I am almost menopausal, 7 months since last period. I know of people who have had great results with progesterone cream but it does nothing for me, in fact it probably screws up the hormonal thing even more. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, consider splitting your Armour into at least two doses a day instead of all of it once a day like that. You are giving your body the T3 all at once, which is short-acting. Dividing the dose gives your body the T3 more spread out. And doing the tab sublingually puts it directly into your bloodstream and bypasses the acids of the stomach and the processing of your liver. Also, add selenium and L-tyrosine to your supplements. Both help with conversion of T4 to T3, besides absorption (and the Cortef helps, too) Janie aka ThyroDiva > I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am, 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this has not affected my sleep pattern) > Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2 > Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88 > Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef. > I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after dinner > Thanks > Lynda > > Re: adrenal support > > > Lynda, > > When do you take your meds in relation to bed time? Early in the > morning.. during the day... at night... or do you multi-dose and, if so, > when? > > What are your basals.... pulse, respiration and temp upon waking, before > rising from bed? > > The symptoms you're listing can also be signs of hypo and adrenal > fatigue.... > > ...a bit about me... I was hyper, then I went into hyper storm, then had > RAI (Radioactive Iodine to kill part, or in my case, all, of the thyroid) > then I was on Synthetic T4, underdosed... then went through a 3 year > period with no meds.. then started self-medicating with Natural thyroid. > So I've run the whole gammut from long term hyper, to thyroid storm, to > no thyroid, to insufficient synthetic meds... to natural meds under my > own care using basals and symptom observation. I had my RAI nearly 14 > years ago. > > Lets so a bit of exploring and see if we can pin point the cause of your > symptoms and figure out how to help... plenty of good observers here that > will happily help.... > > Topper () > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " > <lynda.illingsworth33@n...> writes: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started > > taking the cortef. > > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or > > if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not > > get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are > > all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. > > Someone suggested that I would benefit from cortef, I have been > > taking it for 2 weeks now but I stopped taking Armour when I started > > the cortef. Nothing has improved, in fact the weepies are getting > > worse. I would appreciate any help I can get as dh does not > > understand and gets annoyed with me.....thinks it is just a female > > thing. > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, consider splitting your Armour into at least two doses a day instead of all of it once a day like that. You are giving your body the T3 all at once, which is short-acting. Dividing the dose gives your body the T3 more spread out. And doing the tab sublingually puts it directly into your bloodstream and bypasses the acids of the stomach and the processing of your liver. Also, add selenium and L-tyrosine to your supplements. Both help with conversion of T4 to T3, besides absorption (and the Cortef helps, too) Janie aka ThyroDiva > I take armour first thing in the morning. Cortef at 8.00am, 11am, 2pm and 5pm (but have been taking cortef for only 2 weeks and this has not affected my sleep pattern) > Basal temperature (taken on waking) 97, 11am 97.4, 3pm 97.2 > Pulse varies widely - anything from 64 to 88 > Breathing and sinusitis has improved since being on cortef. > I also take magnesium, vit e, multi b after breakfast and after dinner > Thanks > Lynda > > Re: adrenal support > > > Lynda, > > When do you take your meds in relation to bed time? Early in the > morning.. during the day... at night... or do you multi-dose and, if so, > when? > > What are your basals.... pulse, respiration and temp upon waking, before > rising from bed? > > The symptoms you're listing can also be signs of hypo and adrenal > fatigue.... > > ...a bit about me... I was hyper, then I went into hyper storm, then had > RAI (Radioactive Iodine to kill part, or in my case, all, of the thyroid) > then I was on Synthetic T4, underdosed... then went through a 3 year > period with no meds.. then started self-medicating with Natural thyroid. > So I've run the whole gammut from long term hyper, to thyroid storm, to > no thyroid, to insufficient synthetic meds... to natural meds under my > own care using basals and symptom observation. I had my RAI nearly 14 > years ago. > > Lets so a bit of exploring and see if we can pin point the cause of your > symptoms and figure out how to help... plenty of good observers here that > will happily help.... > > Topper () > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " > <lynda.illingsworth33@n...> writes: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started > > taking the cortef. > > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or > > if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not > > get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are > > all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. > > Someone suggested that I would benefit from cortef, I have been > > taking it for 2 weeks now but I stopped taking Armour when I started > > the cortef. Nothing has improved, in fact the weepies are getting > > worse. I would appreciate any help I can get as dh does not > > understand and gets annoyed with me.....thinks it is just a female > > thing. > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Thanks. I do take selenium, I have also tried L-tyrosine but it raised my blood pressure and caused a burst blood vessel in my eye so I stopped taking it. Lynda Re: adrenal support > > > Lynda, > > When do you take your meds in relation to bed time? Early in the > morning.. during the day... at night... or do you multi-dose and, if so, > when? > > What are your basals.... pulse, respiration and temp upon waking, before > rising from bed? > > The symptoms you're listing can also be signs of hypo and adrenal > fatigue.... > > ...a bit about me... I was hyper, then I went into hyper storm, then had > RAI (Radioactive Iodine to kill part, or in my case, all, of the thyroid) > then I was on Synthetic T4, underdosed... then went through a 3 year > period with no meds.. then started self-medicating with Natural thyroid. > So I've run the whole gammut from long term hyper, to thyroid storm, to > no thyroid, to insufficient synthetic meds... to natural meds under my > own care using basals and symptom observation. I had my RAI nearly 14 > years ago. > > Lets so a bit of exploring and see if we can pin point the cause of your > symptoms and figure out how to help... plenty of good observers here that > will happily help.... > > Topper () > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " > <lynda.illingsworth33@n...> writes: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started > > taking the cortef. > > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or > > if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not > > get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are > > all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. > > Someone suggested that I would benefit from cortef, I have been > > taking it for 2 weeks now but I stopped taking Armour when I started > > the cortef. Nothing has improved, in fact the weepies are getting > > worse. I would appreciate any help I can get as dh does not > > understand and gets annoyed with me.....thinks it is just a female > > thing. > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Thanks. I do take selenium, I have also tried L-tyrosine but it raised my blood pressure and caused a burst blood vessel in my eye so I stopped taking it. Lynda Re: adrenal support > > > Lynda, > > When do you take your meds in relation to bed time? Early in the > morning.. during the day... at night... or do you multi-dose and, if so, > when? > > What are your basals.... pulse, respiration and temp upon waking, before > rising from bed? > > The symptoms you're listing can also be signs of hypo and adrenal > fatigue.... > > ...a bit about me... I was hyper, then I went into hyper storm, then had > RAI (Radioactive Iodine to kill part, or in my case, all, of the thyroid) > then I was on Synthetic T4, underdosed... then went through a 3 year > period with no meds.. then started self-medicating with Natural thyroid. > So I've run the whole gammut from long term hyper, to thyroid storm, to > no thyroid, to insufficient synthetic meds... to natural meds under my > own care using basals and symptom observation. I had my RAI nearly 14 > years ago. > > Lets so a bit of exploring and see if we can pin point the cause of your > symptoms and figure out how to help... plenty of good observers here that > will happily help.... > > Topper () > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " > <lynda.illingsworth33@n...> writes: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started > > taking the cortef. > > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or > > if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not > > get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are > > all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. > > Someone suggested that I would benefit from cortef, I have been > > taking it for 2 weeks now but I stopped taking Armour when I started > > the cortef. Nothing has improved, in fact the weepies are getting > > worse. I would appreciate any help I can get as dh does not > > understand and gets annoyed with me.....thinks it is just a female > > thing. > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Thanks. I do take selenium, I have also tried L-tyrosine but it raised my blood pressure and caused a burst blood vessel in my eye so I stopped taking it. Lynda Re: adrenal support > > > Lynda, > > When do you take your meds in relation to bed time? Early in the > morning.. during the day... at night... or do you multi-dose and, if so, > when? > > What are your basals.... pulse, respiration and temp upon waking, before > rising from bed? > > The symptoms you're listing can also be signs of hypo and adrenal > fatigue.... > > ...a bit about me... I was hyper, then I went into hyper storm, then had > RAI (Radioactive Iodine to kill part, or in my case, all, of the thyroid) > then I was on Synthetic T4, underdosed... then went through a 3 year > period with no meds.. then started self-medicating with Natural thyroid. > So I've run the whole gammut from long term hyper, to thyroid storm, to > no thyroid, to insufficient synthetic meds... to natural meds under my > own care using basals and symptom observation. I had my RAI nearly 14 > years ago. > > Lets so a bit of exploring and see if we can pin point the cause of your > symptoms and figure out how to help... plenty of good observers here that > will happily help.... > > Topper () > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0000 " Lynda Illingsworth " > <lynda.illingsworth33@n...> writes: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have been feeling hyper for about 3 months now, before I started > > taking the cortef. > > Hot all the time, sweating at the least bit exertion, sleepless or > > if I do get to sleep I wake in the middle of the night and can not > > get back to sleep again, mood swings, generally weepy. These are > > all symptoms of hyper according to the thyroidabout.com site. > > Someone suggested that I would benefit from cortef, I have been > > taking it for 2 weeks now but I stopped taking Armour when I started > > the cortef. Nothing has improved, in fact the weepies are getting > > worse. I would appreciate any help I can get as dh does not > > understand and gets annoyed with me.....thinks it is just a female > > thing. > > Lynda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Okay I was thinking you can really taste some nasty things for you health! LOL What are you taking for you adrenal support? A Proud member of the Piggy Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Okay I was thinking you can really taste some nasty things for you health! LOL What are you taking for you adrenal support? A Proud member of the Piggy Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , Okay I was thinking you can really taste some nasty things for you health! LOL What are you taking for you adrenal support? A Proud member of the Piggy Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned - and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess stomach acid and heartburn. The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth. Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned - and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess stomach acid and heartburn. The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth. Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, you are not alone. There are a few others where who have noticed the same problem!! Janie > I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned - and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess stomach acid and heartburn. > The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth. > > Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva > > Lynda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 Lynda, you are not alone. There are a few others where who have noticed the same problem!! Janie > I have just realised that one of the symptoms that has returned - and always does seem to return when my thyroid is not right - is excess stomach acid and heartburn. > The last few nights I have had acid come right up into my mouth. > > Also, throughout the day I get these choking episodes. Feels like the back of my throat - in the tonsil area - closes up and I choke on my saliva > > Lynda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 , are you on all this plus Armour or synthroid? can I take them all? A Proud member of the Piggy Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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