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I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that name) but

I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more unfortunate

or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if the

school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt like,

swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

>

>

> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a waiter(actor)pointed

> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non actors) got

> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her she could

> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat tax,

> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any effect on

> consumption.

>

>

> > >

> > > LINK<

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >

> > >

> > > A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies for

> healthy

> > > options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy measures

> to

> > > encourage healthy eating – even though they may have a negligible

> effect on

> > > disease risk.

> > >

> > > So-called `fat tax<

> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews>'

> > > on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> proposed

> > > in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> controversial

> > > saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-funded

> > > Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> variable

> > > tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> amongst

> > > the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> > >

> > > The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate over

> a

> > > proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> States,

> > > with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on the one

> > > hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> individual

> > > freedom on the other.

> > >

> > > At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has raised

> > > concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> higher

> > > price tag.

> > >

> > > The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of Reading

> and

> > > Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> Nutrition*, set

> > > out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> > > diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> > >

> > > Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> 6760

> > > households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> impacts of

> > > a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where combined with

> a

> > > subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> > >

> > > The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> > > category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese and fat

> and

> > > 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> frozen,

> > > fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> > >

> > > Consumption change projections at the level of individual households

> were

> > > then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet related

> > > disease using measures of relative risk.

> > >

> > > * *

> > >

> > > *Five a day*

> > >

> > > The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> effective

> > > at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> > > diet-related health " *– but mainly because the subsidised fruit and veg

> > > helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> > >

> > > The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move fat

> > > intakes towards recommended amounts.

> > >

> > > What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> guidelines, a

> > > large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> dietary

> > > habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> population

> > > level the average level of disease risk would not change significantly.

> > >

> > > Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> component

> > > in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> measures

> > > at a combination of different social levels – community, school,

> family,

> > > individual – are increasingly advocated.

> > >

> > > Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that habits

> were

> > > changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> media

> > > attention also had a lot to do with it.

> > >

> > > Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of society are

> > > likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> disease

> > > that affects some groups.

> > >

> > > *Source*

> > >

> > > European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1–7

> > >

> > > * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish – just pay shipping exp.

> > > 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> > > Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> > > 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> > > ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> > > is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Great point. I agree.

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that name) but

I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more unfortunate

or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if the

school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt like,

swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

>

>

> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a waiter(actor)pointed

> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non actors) got

> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her she

> could

> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat tax,

> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any effect on

> consumption.

>

>

> > >

> > > LINK<

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >

> > >

> > > A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies for

> healthy

> > > options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> > > measures

> to

> > > encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> effect on

> > > disease risk.

> > >

> > > So-called `fat tax<

> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews>'

> > > on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> proposed

> > > in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> controversial

> > > saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-funded

> > > Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> variable

> > > tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> amongst

> > > the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> > >

> > > The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate over

> a

> > > proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> States,

> > > with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on the

> > > one

> > > hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> individual

> > > freedom on the other.

> > >

> > > At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has raised

> > > concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> higher

> > > price tag.

> > >

> > > The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of Reading

> and

> > > Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> Nutrition*, set

> > > out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> > > diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> > >

> > > Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> 6760

> > > households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> impacts of

> > > a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where combined

> > > with

> a

> > > subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> > >

> > > The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> > > category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese and

> > > fat

> and

> > > 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> frozen,

> > > fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> > >

> > > Consumption change projections at the level of individual households

> were

> > > then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet related

> > > disease using measures of relative risk.

> > >

> > > * *

> > >

> > > *Five a day*

> > >

> > > The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> effective

> > > at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> > > diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit and

> > > veg

> > > helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> > >

> > > The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move fat

> > > intakes towards recommended amounts.

> > >

> > > What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> guidelines, a

> > > large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> dietary

> > > habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> population

> > > level the average level of disease risk would not change

> > > significantly.

> > >

> > > Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> component

> > > in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> measures

> > > at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> family,

> > > individual - are increasingly advocated.

> > >

> > > Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that habits

> were

> > > changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> media

> > > attention also had a lot to do with it.

> > >

> > > Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of society

> > > are

> > > likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> disease

> > > that affects some groups.

> > >

> > > *Source*

> > >

> > > European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> > >

> > > * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> > > 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> > > Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> > > 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> > > ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> > > is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Great point. I agree.

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that name) but

I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more unfortunate

or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if the

school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt like,

swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

>

>

> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a waiter(actor)pointed

> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non actors) got

> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her she

> could

> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat tax,

> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any effect on

> consumption.

>

>

> > >

> > > LINK<

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >

> > >

> > > A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies for

> healthy

> > > options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> > > measures

> to

> > > encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> effect on

> > > disease risk.

> > >

> > > So-called `fat tax<

> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews>'

> > > on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> proposed

> > > in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> controversial

> > > saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-funded

> > > Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> variable

> > > tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> amongst

> > > the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> > >

> > > The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate over

> a

> > > proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> States,

> > > with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on the

> > > one

> > > hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> individual

> > > freedom on the other.

> > >

> > > At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has raised

> > > concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> higher

> > > price tag.

> > >

> > > The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of Reading

> and

> > > Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> Nutrition*, set

> > > out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> > > diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> > >

> > > Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> 6760

> > > households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> impacts of

> > > a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where combined

> > > with

> a

> > > subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> > >

> > > The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> > > category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese and

> > > fat

> and

> > > 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> frozen,

> > > fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> > >

> > > Consumption change projections at the level of individual households

> were

> > > then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet related

> > > disease using measures of relative risk.

> > >

> > > * *

> > >

> > > *Five a day*

> > >

> > > The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> effective

> > > at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> > > diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit and

> > > veg

> > > helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> > >

> > > The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move fat

> > > intakes towards recommended amounts.

> > >

> > > What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> guidelines, a

> > > large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> dietary

> > > habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> population

> > > level the average level of disease risk would not change

> > > significantly.

> > >

> > > Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> component

> > > in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> measures

> > > at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> family,

> > > individual - are increasingly advocated.

> > >

> > > Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that habits

> were

> > > changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> media

> > > attention also had a lot to do with it.

> > >

> > > Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of society

> > > are

> > > likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> disease

> > > that affects some groups.

> > >

> > > *Source*

> > >

> > > European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> > >

> > > * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> > > 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> > > Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> > > 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> > > ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> > > is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Great point. I agree.

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that name) but

I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more unfortunate

or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if the

school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt like,

swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

>

>

> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a waiter(actor)pointed

> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non actors) got

> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her she

> could

> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat tax,

> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any effect on

> consumption.

>

>

> > >

> > > LINK<

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >

> > >

> > > A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies for

> healthy

> > > options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> > > measures

> to

> > > encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> effect on

> > > disease risk.

> > >

> > > So-called `fat tax<

> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews>'

> > > on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> proposed

> > > in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> controversial

> > > saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-funded

> > > Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> variable

> > > tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> amongst

> > > the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> > >

> > > The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate over

> a

> > > proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> States,

> > > with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on the

> > > one

> > > hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> individual

> > > freedom on the other.

> > >

> > > At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has raised

> > > concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> higher

> > > price tag.

> > >

> > > The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of Reading

> and

> > > Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> Nutrition*, set

> > > out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> > > diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> > >

> > > Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> 6760

> > > households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> impacts of

> > > a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where combined

> > > with

> a

> > > subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> > >

> > > The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> > > category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese and

> > > fat

> and

> > > 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> frozen,

> > > fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> > >

> > > Consumption change projections at the level of individual households

> were

> > > then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet related

> > > disease using measures of relative risk.

> > >

> > > * *

> > >

> > > *Five a day*

> > >

> > > The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> effective

> > > at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> > > diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit and

> > > veg

> > > helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> > >

> > > The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move fat

> > > intakes towards recommended amounts.

> > >

> > > What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> guidelines, a

> > > large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> dietary

> > > habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> population

> > > level the average level of disease risk would not change

> > > significantly.

> > >

> > > Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> component

> > > in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> measures

> > > at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> family,

> > > individual - are increasingly advocated.

> > >

> > > Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that habits

> were

> > > changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> media

> > > attention also had a lot to do with it.

> > >

> > > Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of society

> > > are

> > > likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> disease

> > > that affects some groups.

> > >

> > > *Source*

> > >

> > > European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> > >

> > > * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> > > 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> > > Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> > > 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> > > ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> > > is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> > >

> > >

> > >

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If you write that book Raphaela I want a copy ..even with a major health

scare many people don't change long term. I guess we have to be satisfied

with the few we do change.

>

>

> Totally agree with you. but we may have mixed a couple of issues. My post

> (What Would You Do? )was about attitudes people have about food. the 'fat'

> tax is about raising money.

> The real question is how to get effective results; real people adopting

> healthy habits. when I figure it out, I'll be sure to market it, maybe, even

> for a profit!!! ;-/

> I've been reading " The China Study " for a book club. Lots of interesting

> perspective in it. Can't wait to hear what other book club members think.

> Raphaela

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > LINK<

> > >

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> for

> > > healthy

> > > > > options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> > > > > measures

> > > to

> > > > > encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> > > effect on

> > > > > disease risk.

> > > > >

> > > > > So-called `fat tax<

> > >

> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews>'

> > > > > on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> > > proposed

> > > > > in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> > > controversial

> > > > > saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The

> government-funded

> > > > > Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> > > variable

> > > > > tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> > > amongst

> > > > > the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> > > > >

> > > > > The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> over

> > > a

> > > > > proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> > > States,

> > > > > with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on the

>

> > > > > one

> > > > > hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> > > individual

> > > > > freedom on the other.

> > > > >

> > > > > At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> raised

> > > > > concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> > > higher

> > > > > price tag.

> > > > >

> > > > > The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> Reading

> > > and

> > > > > Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> > > Nutrition*, set

> > > > > out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> > > > > diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> > > 6760

> > > > > households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> > > impacts of

> > > > > a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where combined

> > > > > with

> > > a

> > > > > subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> > > > > category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese and

>

> > > > > fat

> > > and

> > > > > 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> > > frozen,

> > > > > fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> households

> > > were

> > > > > then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> related

> > > > > disease using measures of relative risk.

> > > > >

> > > > > * *

> > > > >

> > > > > *Five a day*

> > > > >

> > > > > The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> > > effective

> > > > > at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> > > > > diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit and

>

> > > > > veg

> > > > > helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> > > > >

> > > > > The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> fat

> > > > > intakes towards recommended amounts.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> > > guidelines, a

> > > > > large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> > > dietary

> > > > > habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> > > population

> > > > > level the average level of disease risk would not change

> > > > > significantly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> > > component

> > > > > in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> > > measures

> > > > > at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> > > family,

> > > > > individual - are increasingly advocated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> habits

> > > were

> > > > > changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> > > media

> > > > > attention also had a lot to do with it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of society

>

> > > > > are

> > > > > likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> > > disease

> > > > > that affects some groups.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Source*

> > > > >

> > > > > European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> > > > >

> > > > > * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > > > Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> > > > > 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> > > > > Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> > > > > 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> > > > > ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> > > > > is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Regards,

pam

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> name) but

> I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> unfortunate

> or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> the

> school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> like,

> swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

>

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

>> waiter(actor)pointed

>> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

>> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

>> actors) got

>> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

>> she could

>> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

>> tax,

>> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

>> effect on

>> consumption.

>>

>>

>>>>

>>>> LINK<

>>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

>>>

>>>>

>>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

>>>> for

>> healthy

>>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

>>>> measures

>> to

>>>> encourage healthy eating – even though they may have a negligible

>> effect on

>>>> disease risk.

>>>>

>>>> So-called `fat tax<

>> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

>> >'

>>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

>> proposed

>>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

>> controversial

>>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

>>>> funded

>>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

>> variable

>>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

>> amongst

>>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

>>>>

>>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

>>>> over

>> a

>>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

>> States,

>>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

>>>> the one

>>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

>> individual

>>>> freedom on the other.

>>>>

>>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

>>>> raised

>>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

>> higher

>>>> price tag.

>>>>

>>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

>>>> Reading

>> and

>>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

>> Nutrition*, set

>>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

>>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

>>>>

>>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

>> 6760

>>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

>> impacts of

>>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

>>>> combined with

>> a

>>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

>>>>

>>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

>>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

>>>> and fat

>> and

>>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

>> frozen,

>>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

>>>>

>>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

>>>> households

>> were

>>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

>>>> related

>>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

>>>>

>>>> * *

>>>>

>>>> *Five a day*

>>>>

>>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

>> effective

>>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

>>>> diet-related health " *– but mainly because the subsidised fruit

>>>> and veg

>>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

>>>>

>>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

>>>> fat

>>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

>>>>

>>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

>> guidelines, a

>>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

>> dietary

>>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

>> population

>>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

>>>> significantly.

>>>>

>>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

>> component

>>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

>> measures

>>>> at a combination of different social levels – community, school,

>> family,

>>>> individual – are increasingly advocated.

>>>>

>>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

>>>> habits

>> were

>>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

>> media

>>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

>>>>

>>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

>>>> society are

>>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

>> disease

>>>> that affects some groups.

>>>>

>>>> *Source*

>>>>

>>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1–7

>>>>

>>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

>>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

>>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish – just pay shipping exp.

>>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

>>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

>>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

>>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

>> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

>>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

<rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating – even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *– but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels – community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual – are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1–7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish – just pay shipping exp.

> >>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> >>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

<rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating – even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *– but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels – community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual – are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1–7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish – just pay shipping exp.

> >>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> >>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

<rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating – even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *– but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels – community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual – are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1–7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish – just pay shipping exp.

> >>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> >>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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How much say do we have on what the schools do? I am confused by that!

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

> > <rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual - are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> >>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> >>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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How much say do we have on what the schools do? I am confused by that!

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

> > <rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual - are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

> >>>> 1/22<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12932>National

> >>>> Wear Red Day for Heart Disease: February 4th,

> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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How much say do we have on what the schools do? I am confused by that!

Diane

Re: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on

diets: Study - FYI

Yes I guess I am. You have already assumed that I am going to take a bag of

potato chips away. Meaning it wouldn't be micromanaged but it still would be

more restricted. When someone takes a job do they get to tell exactly what

they want to do. Do you want zero say on what the schools do? Why should

telling people what is allowed and not allowed on FREE food through taxes be

so taboo? I am confused by that.

>

>

> ,

>

> Why should you have the ability to determine what those choices are?

> If you were to lose your job and need to rely on SNAP, would you want

> me to determine what you can and cannot eat? Are you saying that a bag

> of chips should never, ever be consumed by anyone?

>

> You are comparing apples and oranges.

>

> Regards,

> pam

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

>

> > I want to point out that I don't believe in the fat tax (hate that

> > name) but

> > I do believe if my taxes are going to feed people who are more

> > unfortunate

> > or fall on to hard times I should expect healthier choices. What if

> > the

> > school tax you paid meant a teacher could teach whatever they felt

> > like,

> > swear, promote smoking, etc. and you had zero say??

> >

> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, r_rozansk

> > <rvrdiets@...<rvrdiets%40gmail.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I watched " What Would You Do? " on tv last night as a

> >> waiter(actor)pointed

> >> out the calories on menu items as an overweight woman (also, acting)

> >> proceeded to order. All the overweight women and some men (non

> >> actors) got

> >> very huffy and annoyed and 'rescued' the woman (actor) telling her

> >> she could

> >> do what she wanted and the waiter (actor) should be fired. The fat

> >> tax,

> >> although a money raise like tobacco tax will unlikely have any

> >> effect on

> >> consumption.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>> LINK<

> >>

>

http://www.foodnavigator.com/Legislation/Fat-tax-should-be-part-of-policy-measur\

es-on-diets-Study/?c=T0QtS5cvuDV6iNJqJRU4VA%3D%3D & utm_source=newsletter_daily & ut\

m_medium=email & utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>> A new study on the public health impact of fat tax and subsidies

> >>>> for

> >> healthy

> >>>> options concludes they should be included as a suite of policy

> >>>> measures

> >> to

> >>>> encourage healthy eating - even though they may have a negligible

> >> effect on

> >>>> disease risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> So-called `fat tax<

> >> http://www.foodnavigator.com/content/search?SearchText=fat+tax & FromNews

> >> >'

> >>>> on food products that are high in saturated fat and sugar has been

> >> proposed

> >>>> in a number of countries; most recently Denmark introduced a

> >> controversial

> >>>> saturated fat-linked tax at the start of 2011. The government-

> >>>> funded

> >>>> Forebyggelses Kommisionen (Prevention Commission) says that if the

> >> variable

> >>>> tax is levied for 10 years it will increase average life expectancy

> >> amongst

> >>>> the Danish population by 5.5 days.

> >>>>

> >>>> The idea has also been raised several times in the UK, and debate

> >>>> over

> >> a

> >>>> proposed tax on sugary soft drinks has been fierce in the United

> >> States,

> >>>> with health care reformers seeing as a way to increase funds on

> >>>> the one

> >>>> hand, and advocates of consumer choice regarding it as a curb on

> >> individual

> >>>> freedom on the other.

> >>>>

> >>>> At the same time, there the cost of healthier food options has

> >>>> raised

> >>>> concerns in some quarters, as nutritious products tend to carry a

> >> higher

> >>>> price tag.

> >>>>

> >>>> The new study, conducted by researchers at the Universities of

> >>>> Reading

> >> and

> >>>> Edinburgh and published in *The European Journal of Clinical

> >> Nutrition*, set

> >>>> out to measure the impacts of taxes and subsidies on the risks of

> >>>> diet-related disease, accounting for a full range of diets.

> >>>>

> >>>> Authors Tiffin and Mattieu Arnoult used data collected from

> >> 6760

> >>>> households in the UK Expenditure and Food Survey to simulate the

> >> impacts of

> >>>> a policy where a tax based on saturated fat content where

> >>>> combined with

> >> a

> >>>> subsidy on fruit and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax and subsidy rates used in the simulation were determined by

> >>>> category. The ranged from a tax of 15 per cent on cream, cheese

> >>>> and fat

> >> and

> >>>> 13.77 per cent on crisps, down to a subsidy of 14.78 per cent on

> >> frozen,

> >>>> fresh, tinned and prepared fruits and vegetables.

> >>>>

> >>>> Consumption change projections at the level of individual

> >>>> households

> >> were

> >>>> then used to work out the effects on risks of a range of diet

> >>>> related

> >>>> disease using measures of relative risk.

> >>>>

> >>>> * *

> >>>>

> >>>> *Five a day*

> >>>>

> >>>> The researchers found that the fat tax and subsidy policy would be

> >> effective

> >>>> at moving diets * " in a direction consistent with improvements in

> >>>> diet-related health " *- but mainly because the subsidised fruit

> >>>> and veg

> >>>> helped people achieve five-a-day targets.

> >>>>

> >>>> The tax on saturated fat, on the other hand, was not seen to move

> >>>> fat

> >>>> intakes towards recommended amounts.

> >>>>

> >>>> What is more, although mean levels may move favourably towards

> >> guidelines, a

> >>>> large proportion of the population would continue with their poor

> >> dietary

> >>>> habits. This means that individual benefits notwithstanding, on a

> >> population

> >>>> level the average level of disease risk would not change

> >>>> significantly.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tiffin and Arnoult concluded that a fat tax should be seen as * " a

> >> component

> >>>> in a suite of instruments in tackling poor diets " .* They noted that

> >> measures

> >>>> at a combination of different social levels - community, school,

> >> family,

> >>>> individual - are increasingly advocated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Comparing the tackling poor diets with smoking, they said that

> >>>> habits

> >> were

> >>>> changed not just as a result of price increases for cigarettes, but

> >> media

> >>>> attention also had a lot to do with it.

> >>>>

> >>>> Thus, they said * " complex policies " * at different levels of

> >>>> society are

> >>>> likely to be more effective in addressing severe chronic dietary

> >> disease

> >>>> that affects some groups.

> >>>>

> >>>> *Source*

> >>>>

> >>>> European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2011), 1-7

> >>>>

> >>>> * " The public health impacts of a fat tax " *

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ortiz, MS, RD

> >>>> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> >>>> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> >>>> Free 8X11 Classic PhotoBook from Snapfish - just pay shipping exp.

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> >>>> 2011<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12861>

> >>>> ** <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><

> >> http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition

> >>>> is a science, Not an Opinion survey "

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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Very wise words and examples. Would say no one can disagree with your

statements. Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

r_rozansk

Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:05 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on diets:

Study - FYI

definitely not black and white. As for the idea that taxes be directed for

certain uses, that is exactly what is done for some property taxes with

millage being applied for schools; roads; particular projects. Excise taxes

are supposed to fund roads. Federal taxes are distributed according to

congressional appropriations.

Baretenders are (trained to) and held responsible if they serve impaired

patrons. Obviously, food is more emotional even to us nutrition experts. I

am often amused as accomodations are made to encourage, allow, smoking in

our frail elderly while enforcing unreasonable diet restrictions; go figure.

I'd say we have a lot of work to regarding food and nutrition policies.

Raphaela Rozanski, MS, RD, LDN

>

> I say if there is to be regulation it should be with food stamps

> and

> what

> they allow for purchase with, example can buy soda, candy bars,

> potato

> chips

> etc. Some kind of regulation with this, much like the ideas used

> with WIC

> might be a good idea. If they limited frivolous purchases in that

> way I

> would even be amenable to helping the needy with personal items as

> well,

> like toilet paper, cleaners, soap for clothing etc.

>

>

>

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>

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Very wise words and examples. Would say no one can disagree with your

statements. Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

r_rozansk

Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:05 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: " Fat tax " should be part of policy measures on diets:

Study - FYI

definitely not black and white. As for the idea that taxes be directed for

certain uses, that is exactly what is done for some property taxes with

millage being applied for schools; roads; particular projects. Excise taxes

are supposed to fund roads. Federal taxes are distributed according to

congressional appropriations.

Baretenders are (trained to) and held responsible if they serve impaired

patrons. Obviously, food is more emotional even to us nutrition experts. I

am often amused as accomodations are made to encourage, allow, smoking in

our frail elderly while enforcing unreasonable diet restrictions; go figure.

I'd say we have a lot of work to regarding food and nutrition policies.

Raphaela Rozanski, MS, RD, LDN

>

> I say if there is to be regulation it should be with food stamps

> and

> what

> they allow for purchase with, example can buy soda, candy bars,

> potato

> chips

> etc. Some kind of regulation with this, much like the ideas used

> with WIC

> might be a good idea. If they limited frivolous purchases in that

> way I

> would even be amenable to helping the needy with personal items as

> well,

> like toilet paper, cleaners, soap for clothing etc.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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