Re: carb types and calories

[Guest guest]

*grin* no I understood what you were saying. I actually was suggesting to you

that you take it in the evening. lantus doesn't have a peek dave like that old

stuff you used to take. that old long acting stuff makes any one go low in the

middle of the night.

I worked with harry and linda on list here to take lantus in the evenings and

they adjusted it down to where they were never low in the middle of the night

and their morning sugars are great.

There are benefits to taking lantus in the evenings rather than the mornings.

That is why all doctors try to start folks on lantus in the evenings.

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams daily, but

does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of carbs, if you

figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to around 500

calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of somewhere in

the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What foods do you

eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking? What would a

couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling,

but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Guest guest]

*grin* no I understood what you were saying. I actually was suggesting to you

that you take it in the evening. lantus doesn't have a peek dave like that old

stuff you used to take. that old long acting stuff makes any one go low in the

middle of the night.

I worked with harry and linda on list here to take lantus in the evenings and

they adjusted it down to where they were never low in the middle of the night

and their morning sugars are great.

There are benefits to taking lantus in the evenings rather than the mornings.

That is why all doctors try to start folks on lantus in the evenings.

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams daily, but

does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of carbs, if you

figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to around 500

calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of somewhere in

the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What foods do you

eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking? What would a

couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling,

but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Guest guest]

I take 30 units of lantus at 9-30 p.m. and my morning sugar is always

i haven't had a low sugar experience.

just my experience.

Dave

> *grin* no I understood what you were saying. I actually was suggesting to

> you that you take it in the evening. lantus doesn't have a peek dave like

> that old stuff you used to take. that old long acting stuff makes any one

> go low in the middle of the night.

>

> I worked with harry and linda on list here to take lantus in the evenings

> and they adjusted it down to where they were never low in the middle of

> the night and their morning sugars are great.

>

> There are benefits to taking lantus in the evenings rather than the

> mornings. That is why all doctors try to start folks on lantus in the

> evenings.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> carb types and

> calories

>

>

> ,

>

> You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

> daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams

> of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works

> out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a

> male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is

> not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus

> calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans

> look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose

> your weight is okay? Thanks.

>

> Dave

>

>

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> removed]

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you may be in the minority that lantus doesn't have a 24 hour effect. 90% of

people can get a 24 hour effect from lantus.

Most who cannot, split dose lantus... take, for example, 5 units at 8 PM and

then 5 units at 8 AM.

most endos start folks taking lantus at 8 pm since it helps the dawn

effect/preventing it. That is, assumeing you go to bed at a decent hour *grin*.

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams daily,

but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of carbs, if

you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to around 500

calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of somewhere in

the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What foods do you

eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking? What would a

couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling,

but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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[Guest guest]

And you were saying your morning sugar is ...?

carb types and

>> calories

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>> You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

>> daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams

>> of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works

>> out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a

>> male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is

>> not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus

>> calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans

>> look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose

>> your weight is okay? Thanks.

>>

>> Dave

>>

>>

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[Guest guest]

Lantus does not have a " peak " -unlike Lente or N. It is supposedly stable

for about 24 hours.

Re: carb types and calories

Okay. I wasn't tuned in then. I know the peak is supposed to be different

with Lantus, but it isn't the 24 hour insulin I was told originally by my

endo, and I am pretty sure I did try it when he first put me on it in the

evenings. I do know people take it other times, and why is that?

Dave

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out

to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a

count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not

over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories

based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for

you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose your weight is

okay? Thanks.

Dave

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[Guest guest]

Lantus does not have a " peak " -unlike Lente or N. It is supposedly stable

for about 24 hours.

Re: carb types and calories

Okay. I wasn't tuned in then. I know the peak is supposed to be different

with Lantus, but it isn't the 24 hour insulin I was told originally by my

endo, and I am pretty sure I did try it when he first put me on it in the

evenings. I do know people take it other times, and why is that?

Dave

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out

to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a

count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not

over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories

based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for

you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose your weight is

okay? Thanks.

Dave

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removed]

[Guest guest]

instead of peek, I think what you are saying is the potency of it lessons in the

last six hours. Peek to any diabetic means low sugar *grin*

Regards,

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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[Guest guest]

there are some diabetics who don't experience the benefits of lantus.

but, with that said, it is such a small minority that it almost isn't even worth

bringing up.

The only thing that has been proven, in some diabetics, is it doesn't last 24

hours and some have to split dose it. But, that percentage is so small it is

amazing.

It really is a great invention!

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out

to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a

count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not

over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories

based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for

you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose your weight is

okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

[Guest guest]

there are some diabetics who don't experience the benefits of lantus.

but, with that said, it is such a small minority that it almost isn't even worth

bringing up.

The only thing that has been proven, in some diabetics, is it doesn't last 24

hours and some have to split dose it. But, that percentage is so small it is

amazing.

It really is a great invention!

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out

to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a

count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not

over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories

based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for

you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose your weight is

okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

[Guest guest]

Okay. I wasn't tuned in then. I know the peak is supposed to be different with

Lantus, but it isn't the 24 hour insulin I was told originally by my endo, and I

am pretty sure I did try it when he first put me on it in the evenings. I do

know people take it other times, and why is that?

Dave

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams daily,

but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of carbs, if

you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to around 500

calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of somewhere in

the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What foods do you

eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking? What would a

couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling,

but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Guest guest]

I thought there were some findings a while back that indicated Lantus wasn't

living up to it's billing. Actually, I should clarify what I am saying. The

Lantus is indeed probably still working for close to the 24 hour period, but I

think it has a peak and in the last 6 hours or so is much less potent. I

suppose I could stand to be re-educated about basil/background insulin, and

specifically the issues concerning too much or too llittle.

Dave

---- Original Message -----

From: Daubenmire

To: blind-diabetics

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:57 AM

Subject: Re: carb types and calories

you may be in the minority that lantus doesn't have a 24 hour effect. 90% of

people can get a 24 hour effect from lantus.

Most who cannot, split dose lantus... take, for example, 5 units at 8 PM and

then 5 units at 8 AM.

most endos start folks taking lantus at 8 pm since it helps the dawn

effect/preventing it. That is, assumeing you go to bed at a decent hour *grin*.

Regards,

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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removed]

[Guest guest]

I know that's what is said, but I do not know if it's proving to be the case now

that a number of years have passed, and the real case stories are being

analyzed.

Dave

carb types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out

to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a

count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not

over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories

based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for

you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose your weight is

okay? Thanks.

Dave

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removed]

[Guest guest]

*grin* hey I never said I was an english major, I am a programmer by profession

and it shows!

*smile*

Regards,

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90

grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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removed]

[Guest guest]

Yes, and that's p e a k, as in mountain peak, as in height, btw. <smile> No

doubt you have the peek-a-boo thing on your brain having a little one around the

house. <grin> Sorry, it may appear I'm picking on your brain now that I think

about a message sent yesterday I believe! I'll try to behave better, for a

little anyway. <chuckle>

Dave

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90 grams

daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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removed]

[Guest guest]

Okay & Dave,

Well, one of the reasons I am the way I am is because I spent a good 28

years dealing with mainframe giants and most of them killed me.

Looks like birds of a feather do, in fact, flock together.

Oh yes, sure is a good thing we have spell checking...

Cy, the Ancient One & Grady, the Laboratory Retriever...wig

Re: carb types and calories

As one who also does programming, if you consider html, css, and asp

programming, then I can relate to the spelling thing. <grin>

Dave

carb

types and calories

,

You limit your carb intake to

around 90 grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and

veggies? 90 grams of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb

(ie. 15 grams), works out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing,

but I think for a male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800

calories per day is not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up

for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of

daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling,

but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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have been removed]

[Guest guest]

yuppers, all those are programming and as you know, programmers cannot spell

*grin*

Regards,

carb types

> and calories

>

>

> ,

>

> You limit your carb intake to around

> 90 grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90

> grams of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams),

> works out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a

> male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is

> not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus

> calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans

> look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose

> your weight is okay? Thanks.

>

> Dave

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yuppers, all those are programming and as you know, programmers cannot spell

*grin*

Regards,

carb types

> and calories

>

>

> ,

>

> You limit your carb intake to around

> 90 grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90

> grams of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams),

> works out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a

> male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is

> not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus

> calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans

> look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose

> your weight is okay? Thanks.

>

> Dave

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yuppers, all those are programming and as you know, programmers cannot spell

*grin*

Regards,

carb types

> and calories

>

>

> ,

>

> You limit your carb intake to around

> 90 grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90

> grams of carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams),

> works out to around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a

> male, a count of somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is

> not over-eating. What foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus

> calories based on my thinking? What would a couple of daily meal plans

> look like for you? And, I don't recall you telling, but may I suppose

> your weight is okay? Thanks.

>

> Dave

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As one who also does programming, if you consider html, css, and asp

programming, then I can relate to the spelling thing. <grin>

Dave

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90

grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Non-text portions of this message have

been removed]

[Guest guest]

As one who also does programming, if you consider html, css, and asp

programming, then I can relate to the spelling thing. <grin>

Dave

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90

grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

[Non-text portions of this message have

been removed]

[Guest guest]

As one who also does programming, if you consider html, css, and asp

programming, then I can relate to the spelling thing. <grin>

Dave

carb types and

calories

,

You limit your carb intake to around 90

grams daily, but does this mean even carbs from fruits and veggies? 90 grams of

carbs, if you figure about 80 calaories per carb (ie. 15 grams), works out to

around 500 calories per day. I'm guessing, but I think for a male, a count of

somewhere in the range of 1500-1800 calories per day is not over-eating. What

foods do you eat to make up for the 1000 plus calories based on my thinking?

What would a couple of daily meal plans look like for you? And, I don't recall

you telling, but may I suppose your weight is okay? Thanks.

Dave

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