Guest guest Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (CBS) It's a matter of black and white, at least for fat people. Compared to their white counterparts, obese African-Americans get less advice from their doctors on weight reduction and on the importance of exercise, according to a new study. " Previous studies have shown disparities in the proportion of black obese adults informed by physicians that they were overweight compared to white obese adults, " study author Dr. , professor of epidemiology at s Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in a written statement. " We now also see that black patients are receiving different medical counseling as well. " The study<http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2010330a.html>was published in the Jannuary 2011 online issue of " Obesity. " The scientists analyzed 2,231 doctor visits of white and black obese patients, all age 20 or older. They had expected to find that the weight-loss advice African-Americans received depended in part on the race of their doctors - with those being seen by white doctors getting poorer weight-loss advice than those being seen by African-American doctors. It didn't turn out that way. Black patients got poorer advice no matter the race of the doctor. " This suggests that regardless of the physician's race, black obese patients receive less weight-related counseling than white obese patients, " study author Dr. Sara Bleich, assistant professor of health policy and management at the Bloomberg School, said in the statement. What explains the finding? The researchers don't know for sure but said a number of factors could be involved, including doctors' negative views toward black patients. What do you think? LINK here <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20028525-10391704.html> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition**<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><http://thefrugaldietitian.co\ m/?p=10437> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 You asked what we think..... 1. I am wondering if we all remember (and by " all " I refer to all healthcare professionals) that the Metlife wt ranges tables where done by statistics of MetLife, collecting data of their WHITE clients, who were likely of middle class and up. Maybe it is time to collect such statistics on African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians as the are, in general, falling " off " the charts either up or down. 2. Even BMI is questioned as a tool. Elderly dont always fit into the BMI tables as well, and in my experience elderly mostly don't fit, and this study concluded ppl 20 yo + . 3. the study talks about 2231 doctor visits, not pts, in the course of 2 years. Not so hard to achieve. 50 pts X 1 visit per wk is 2600 visit per year(!). they did not specify how many actual pts they had in the study, I can easily assume that they had even a smaller sample of 26 pts, and I can assume that 20 where white and 2 where Afr-Amer and that they were seen by 3 Afr-Amer MDs and 2 white MDs. I am a bit disappointed with this study and Hopkins and what it tries to imply. 4. Maybe we also, as a society, accept the fact that Afr-Amer individual of BMI of 30 (notice I am specifying 30, not 35 or 40) is not " obese " for this population (given #1), while for white person it is less acceptable. I really would love to hear what reseraches think of that....anybody? Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: nrord1@... Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:46:14 -0500 Subject: Can Blacks Get Good Weight-Loss Advice? Fat Chance (CBS) It's a matter of black and white, at least for fat people. Compared to their white counterparts, obese African-Americans get less advice from their doctors on weight reduction and on the importance of exercise, according to a new study. " Previous studies have shown disparities in the proportion of black obese adults informed by physicians that they were overweight compared to white obese adults, " study author Dr. , professor of epidemiology at s Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in a written statement. " We now also see that black patients are receiving different medical counseling as well. " The study<http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2010330a.html>was published in the Jannuary 2011 online issue of " Obesity. " The scientists analyzed 2,231 doctor visits of white and black obese patients, all age 20 or older. They had expected to find that the weight-loss advice African-Americans received depended in part on the race of their doctors - with those being seen by white doctors getting poorer weight-loss advice than those being seen by African-American doctors. It didn't turn out that way. Black patients got poorer advice no matter the race of the doctor. " This suggests that regardless of the physician's race, black obese patients receive less weight-related counseling than white obese patients, " study author Dr. Sara Bleich, assistant professor of health policy and management at the Bloomberg School, said in the statement. What explains the finding? The researchers don't know for sure but said a number of factors could be involved, including doctors' negative views toward black patients. What do you think? LINK here <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20028525-10391704.html> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition**<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><http://thefrugaldietitian.co\ m/?p=10437> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 You asked what we think..... 1. I am wondering if we all remember (and by " all " I refer to all healthcare professionals) that the Metlife wt ranges tables where done by statistics of MetLife, collecting data of their WHITE clients, who were likely of middle class and up. Maybe it is time to collect such statistics on African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians as the are, in general, falling " off " the charts either up or down. 2. Even BMI is questioned as a tool. Elderly dont always fit into the BMI tables as well, and in my experience elderly mostly don't fit, and this study concluded ppl 20 yo + . 3. the study talks about 2231 doctor visits, not pts, in the course of 2 years. Not so hard to achieve. 50 pts X 1 visit per wk is 2600 visit per year(!). they did not specify how many actual pts they had in the study, I can easily assume that they had even a smaller sample of 26 pts, and I can assume that 20 where white and 2 where Afr-Amer and that they were seen by 3 Afr-Amer MDs and 2 white MDs. I am a bit disappointed with this study and Hopkins and what it tries to imply. 4. Maybe we also, as a society, accept the fact that Afr-Amer individual of BMI of 30 (notice I am specifying 30, not 35 or 40) is not " obese " for this population (given #1), while for white person it is less acceptable. I really would love to hear what reseraches think of that....anybody? Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: nrord1@... Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:46:14 -0500 Subject: Can Blacks Get Good Weight-Loss Advice? Fat Chance (CBS) It's a matter of black and white, at least for fat people. Compared to their white counterparts, obese African-Americans get less advice from their doctors on weight reduction and on the importance of exercise, according to a new study. " Previous studies have shown disparities in the proportion of black obese adults informed by physicians that they were overweight compared to white obese adults, " study author Dr. , professor of epidemiology at s Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in a written statement. " We now also see that black patients are receiving different medical counseling as well. " The study<http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2010330a.html>was published in the Jannuary 2011 online issue of " Obesity. " The scientists analyzed 2,231 doctor visits of white and black obese patients, all age 20 or older. They had expected to find that the weight-loss advice African-Americans received depended in part on the race of their doctors - with those being seen by white doctors getting poorer weight-loss advice than those being seen by African-American doctors. It didn't turn out that way. Black patients got poorer advice no matter the race of the doctor. " This suggests that regardless of the physician's race, black obese patients receive less weight-related counseling than white obese patients, " study author Dr. Sara Bleich, assistant professor of health policy and management at the Bloomberg School, said in the statement. What explains the finding? The researchers don't know for sure but said a number of factors could be involved, including doctors' negative views toward black patients. What do you think? LINK here <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20028525-10391704.html> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition**<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><http://thefrugaldietitian.co\ m/?p=10437> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 You asked what we think..... 1. I am wondering if we all remember (and by " all " I refer to all healthcare professionals) that the Metlife wt ranges tables where done by statistics of MetLife, collecting data of their WHITE clients, who were likely of middle class and up. Maybe it is time to collect such statistics on African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians as the are, in general, falling " off " the charts either up or down. 2. Even BMI is questioned as a tool. Elderly dont always fit into the BMI tables as well, and in my experience elderly mostly don't fit, and this study concluded ppl 20 yo + . 3. the study talks about 2231 doctor visits, not pts, in the course of 2 years. Not so hard to achieve. 50 pts X 1 visit per wk is 2600 visit per year(!). they did not specify how many actual pts they had in the study, I can easily assume that they had even a smaller sample of 26 pts, and I can assume that 20 where white and 2 where Afr-Amer and that they were seen by 3 Afr-Amer MDs and 2 white MDs. I am a bit disappointed with this study and Hopkins and what it tries to imply. 4. Maybe we also, as a society, accept the fact that Afr-Amer individual of BMI of 30 (notice I am specifying 30, not 35 or 40) is not " obese " for this population (given #1), while for white person it is less acceptable. I really would love to hear what reseraches think of that....anybody? Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: nrord1@... Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:46:14 -0500 Subject: Can Blacks Get Good Weight-Loss Advice? Fat Chance (CBS) It's a matter of black and white, at least for fat people. Compared to their white counterparts, obese African-Americans get less advice from their doctors on weight reduction and on the importance of exercise, according to a new study. " Previous studies have shown disparities in the proportion of black obese adults informed by physicians that they were overweight compared to white obese adults, " study author Dr. , professor of epidemiology at s Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in a written statement. " We now also see that black patients are receiving different medical counseling as well. " The study<http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2010330a.html>was published in the Jannuary 2011 online issue of " Obesity. " The scientists analyzed 2,231 doctor visits of white and black obese patients, all age 20 or older. They had expected to find that the weight-loss advice African-Americans received depended in part on the race of their doctors - with those being seen by white doctors getting poorer weight-loss advice than those being seen by African-American doctors. It didn't turn out that way. Black patients got poorer advice no matter the race of the doctor. " This suggests that regardless of the physician's race, black obese patients receive less weight-related counseling than white obese patients, " study author Dr. Sara Bleich, assistant professor of health policy and management at the Bloomberg School, said in the statement. What explains the finding? The researchers don't know for sure but said a number of factors could be involved, including doctors' negative views toward black patients. What do you think? LINK here <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20028525-10391704.html> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition**<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><http://thefrugaldietitian.co\ m/?p=10437> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Excellent points, Merav. Although I am of European descent, a mix of Spanish, Italian and unkown others but most likely native Caribbean dwellers, I am from the Caribbean, and as such, while growing up in Puerto Rico was considered unattractively scrawny, although certain body parts exceeded what anglos considered attractive, and others caused wide open eyes, grins and at times envy or doubt that they were original parts. In some coutries a BMI of 20 is still considered quite unattractive and unhealthy, and thin persons that meet with our approval here, are cause of worry to parents and friends, even their doctors. I think the focus needs to be on a healthy body and mind. Excessively high weights we all know cause discomfort as well as impede certain physical activities, and increase morbidity. So do excessively low weights. Studies, tables and charts are just guidelines and we, RDs, as well as all healthcare professionals need to use our tools and expertise to determine healthy weight. BTW - I love your by-line below your sig Digna Can Blacks Get Good Weight-Loss Advice? Fat Chance (CBS) It's a matter of black and white, at least for fat people. Compared to their white counterparts, obese African-Americans get less advice from their doctors on weight reduction and on the importance of exercise, according to a new study. " Previous studies have shown disparities in the proportion of black obese adults informed by physicians that they were overweight compared to white obese adults, " study author Dr. , professor of epidemiology at s Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in a written statement. " We now also see that black patients are receiving different medical counseling as well. " The study<http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/oby2010330a.html> was published in the Jannuary 2011 online issue of " Obesity. " The scientists analyzed 2,231 doctor visits of white and black obese patients, all age 20 or older. They had expected to find that the weight-loss advice African-Americans received depended in part on the race of their doctors - with those being seen by white doctors getting poorer weight-loss advice than those being seen by African-American doctors. It didn't turn out that way. Black patients got poorer advice no matter the race of the doctor. " This suggests that regardless of the physician's race, black obese patients receive less weight-related counseling than white obese patients, " study author Dr. Sara Bleich, assistant professor of health policy and management at the Bloomberg School, said in the statement. What explains the finding? The researchers don't know for sure but said a number of factors could be involved, including doctors' negative views toward black patients. What do you think? LINK here <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20028525-10391704.html> -- Ortiz, MS, RD *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition**<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=12001><http://thefrugaldietitia n.com/?p=10437> " Nutrition is a science, Not an Opinion survey " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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