Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, I didn't realize an Accuchek with Voice Mate was even 600 dollars, but for a firm to charge Medicare (M e d i c a r e ) almost fourteen hundred dollars is outlandish. You might want to bring this to the attention of a newspaper for public exposure, but also keep trying to reach Medicare concerning this issue. We often get denied benefits because of budget cuts, so this kind of gouging does not help matters. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, I didn't realize an Accuchek with Voice Mate was even 600 dollars, but for a firm to charge Medicare (M e d i c a r e ) almost fourteen hundred dollars is outlandish. You might want to bring this to the attention of a newspaper for public exposure, but also keep trying to reach Medicare concerning this issue. We often get denied benefits because of budget cuts, so this kind of gouging does not help matters. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, I didn't realize an Accuchek with Voice Mate was even 600 dollars, but for a firm to charge Medicare (M e d i c a r e ) almost fourteen hundred dollars is outlandish. You might want to bring this to the attention of a newspaper for public exposure, but also keep trying to reach Medicare concerning this issue. We often get denied benefits because of budget cuts, so this kind of gouging does not help matters. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with the usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by how much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are just spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process the paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't complain; you are just a simple tax payer. medda care rip off > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but they > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an election. > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. > but that charge was ridiculous. > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service is > in a big mess. > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Don't complain, Meddacare only pays 80 percent. you figure, what is 20 percent of 1400 dollars. Dave > Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with > the > usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by > how > much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are > just > spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the > doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They > are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process > the > paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't > complain; you are just a simple tax payer. > medda care rip off > > > > > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the > > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but > they > > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. > > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. > > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an > election. > > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. > > but that charge was ridiculous. > > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service > is > > in a big mess. > > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > > dave > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Don't complain, Meddacare only pays 80 percent. you figure, what is 20 percent of 1400 dollars. Dave > Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with > the > usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by > how > much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are > just > spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the > doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They > are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process > the > paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't > complain; you are just a simple tax payer. > medda care rip off > > > > > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the > > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but > they > > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. > > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. > > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an > election. > > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. > > but that charge was ridiculous. > > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service > is > > in a big mess. > > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > > dave > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Don't complain, Meddacare only pays 80 percent. you figure, what is 20 percent of 1400 dollars. Dave > Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with > the > usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by > how > much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are > just > spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the > doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They > are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process > the > paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't > complain; you are just a simple tax payer. > medda care rip off > > > > > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the > > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but > they > > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. > > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. > > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an > election. > > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. > > but that charge was ridiculous. > > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service > is > > in a big mess. > > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > > dave > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Barely enough money to pay for the extra help to process the paperwork. Don't tell me you were under the impression the doctor was supposed to pay for this additional cost? medda care rip off >> >> >> > >> > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the >> > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but >> they >> > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. >> > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. >> > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an >> election. >> > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. >> > but that charge was ridiculous. >> > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service >> is >> > in a big mess. >> > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. >> > dave >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Barely enough money to pay for the extra help to process the paperwork. Don't tell me you were under the impression the doctor was supposed to pay for this additional cost? medda care rip off >> >> >> > >> > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the >> > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but >> they >> > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. >> > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. >> > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an >> election. >> > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. >> > but that charge was ridiculous. >> > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service >> is >> > in a big mess. >> > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. >> > dave >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Barely enough money to pay for the extra help to process the paperwork. Don't tell me you were under the impression the doctor was supposed to pay for this additional cost? medda care rip off >> >> >> > >> > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in the >> > voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. but >> they >> > charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. >> > I called and asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. >> > I tried to call meddacare but they won't answer the day after an >> election. >> > D. S. medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. >> > but that charge was ridiculous. >> > If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our medical service >> is >> > in a big mess. >> > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. >> > dave >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 My problem with the inflated price Medicare pays is that money could help more people instead of just being excess profit. Heck, I need chemical exfoliation treatment for pre-cancerous bumps on my scalp but guess what -- Medicare no longer pays for them, for some stupid reason. Probably trying to cut costs. Yet they can pay these ripoff prices? It makes me VERY concerned. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 My problem with the inflated price Medicare pays is that money could help more people instead of just being excess profit. Heck, I need chemical exfoliation treatment for pre-cancerous bumps on my scalp but guess what -- Medicare no longer pays for them, for some stupid reason. Probably trying to cut costs. Yet they can pay these ripoff prices? It makes me VERY concerned. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Harry, Of course doctors can't possibly afford to pay for help to do paperwork. They can't even pay for postage when you send referral info that they must mail back. My God they're all running on a shoestring budget. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Harry, Of course doctors can't possibly afford to pay for help to do paperwork. They can't even pay for postage when you send referral info that they must mail back. My God they're all running on a shoestring budget. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 It is good and refreshing to see that you and others understand! Re: medda care rip off > > Harry, > > Of course doctors can't possibly afford to pay for help to do paperwork. > They can't even pay for postage when you send referral info that they must > mail back. My God they're all running on a shoestring budget. > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 It is good and refreshing to see that you and others understand! Re: medda care rip off > > Harry, > > Of course doctors can't possibly afford to pay for help to do paperwork. > They can't even pay for postage when you send referral info that they must > mail back. My God they're all running on a shoestring budget. > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 It is good and refreshing to see that you and others understand! Re: medda care rip off > > Harry, > > Of course doctors can't possibly afford to pay for help to do paperwork. > They can't even pay for postage when you send referral info that they must > mail back. My God they're all running on a shoestring budget. > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, This is exactly the reason equipment and other things for the handicapped is exorbitant. What you have described is called Medicare fraud. It boggles my mind that such things are not dealt with in a swift and decisive manner. Oh well, we are talking about the Medicare/Medicaid miasma and nothing about them is decisive. This is also the reason J.C. Penney has a wheelchair in their catalog for around $600 and a place specializing in equipment for the handicapped charges well over $3,000 for essentially the same thing. This is also why JAWS and other screen readers cost nearly $1,000. An OCR program for the handicapped is not far behind that figure but Text Cloner Pro is around $100. Purveyors of items for the handicapped keep holding up the " limited market " sign but I think Harry has it right, it is what they can charge and get by with it. Anyway, I will pass along what my father always told me when I pointed out inequities, " Son, there is never a road so long that it does not turn. " The one thing Dad didn't say is that you may run out of gas before you get to the turn. Cy, the Ancient One... Re: medda care rip off Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with the usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by how much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are just spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process the paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't complain; you are just a simple tax payer. medda care rip off > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in > the voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. > but they charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. I called and > asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. I tried to call > meddacare but they won't answer the day after an election. D. S. > medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. but that charge was > ridiculous. If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our > medical service is in a big mess. > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, This is exactly the reason equipment and other things for the handicapped is exorbitant. What you have described is called Medicare fraud. It boggles my mind that such things are not dealt with in a swift and decisive manner. Oh well, we are talking about the Medicare/Medicaid miasma and nothing about them is decisive. This is also the reason J.C. Penney has a wheelchair in their catalog for around $600 and a place specializing in equipment for the handicapped charges well over $3,000 for essentially the same thing. This is also why JAWS and other screen readers cost nearly $1,000. An OCR program for the handicapped is not far behind that figure but Text Cloner Pro is around $100. Purveyors of items for the handicapped keep holding up the " limited market " sign but I think Harry has it right, it is what they can charge and get by with it. Anyway, I will pass along what my father always told me when I pointed out inequities, " Son, there is never a road so long that it does not turn. " The one thing Dad didn't say is that you may run out of gas before you get to the turn. Cy, the Ancient One... Re: medda care rip off Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with the usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by how much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are just spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process the paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't complain; you are just a simple tax payer. medda care rip off > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in > the voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. > but they charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. I called and > asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. I tried to call > meddacare but they won't answer the day after an election. D. S. > medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. but that charge was > ridiculous. If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our > medical service is in a big mess. > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, This is exactly the reason equipment and other things for the handicapped is exorbitant. What you have described is called Medicare fraud. It boggles my mind that such things are not dealt with in a swift and decisive manner. Oh well, we are talking about the Medicare/Medicaid miasma and nothing about them is decisive. This is also the reason J.C. Penney has a wheelchair in their catalog for around $600 and a place specializing in equipment for the handicapped charges well over $3,000 for essentially the same thing. This is also why JAWS and other screen readers cost nearly $1,000. An OCR program for the handicapped is not far behind that figure but Text Cloner Pro is around $100. Purveyors of items for the handicapped keep holding up the " limited market " sign but I think Harry has it right, it is what they can charge and get by with it. Anyway, I will pass along what my father always told me when I pointed out inequities, " Son, there is never a road so long that it does not turn. " The one thing Dad didn't say is that you may run out of gas before you get to the turn. Cy, the Ancient One... Re: medda care rip off Under the law Medicare is responsible for paying service providers with the usual and customary fee. The usual and customary fee is determined by how much one can maximally charge and get away with it. After all you are just spending som body else's money, not yours. Believe me when I say, the doctors and providers of medical services are not losing any money. They are just bitching about the extra help they have to pay to help process the paper work. In the mean time they are getting all they can. So, don't complain; you are just a simple tax payer. medda care rip off > > I bought a acucheck with voice mate from D.S. medical advertised in > the voice of the Diabetic. They quoted me a price of 600 dollars. > but they charged Meddacare 1 thousand 300 and 72 dollars. I called and > asked why. They said that was what medda care allows. I tried to call > meddacare but they won't answer the day after an election. D. S. > medicals bill was for durable medical equipment. but that charge was > ridiculous. If Meddacare allows something like that, no wonder our > medical service is in a big mess. > Just surprised at the greed and the allowance of such. > dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Cy and Harry, I do wonder though how we got the spelling " m e d d a c a r e " here though....it's always been M e d i c a r e " as far back as I can remember. It's probably a symptom of phonetic spelling. I see it all the time in e-mailing with sighted as well as blind people so we can't just say it's because of people using JAWS, but it's definitely a growing problem.... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Cy and Harry, I do wonder though how we got the spelling " m e d d a c a r e " here though....it's always been M e d i c a r e " as far back as I can remember. It's probably a symptom of phonetic spelling. I see it all the time in e-mailing with sighted as well as blind people so we can't just say it's because of people using JAWS, but it's definitely a growing problem.... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Cy and Harry, I do wonder though how we got the spelling " m e d d a c a r e " here though....it's always been M e d i c a r e " as far back as I can remember. It's probably a symptom of phonetic spelling. I see it all the time in e-mailing with sighted as well as blind people so we can't just say it's because of people using JAWS, but it's definitely a growing problem.... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I wish there was a way to make these various agencies wholly accountable for the excessive charges on handicapped equipment and services. The thinking is that most of the purchases will be through government agencies which are so mired with paperwork anyway that nobody takes the time to shop prices. Until this changes, we're going to continue to see this kind of disparity, whether it's with wheelchairs, diabetic equipment or CCTV equipment for the partially sighted. It galls me that year after year these companies cry " limited market " to justify their supreme prices, and at the same time charge even higher to rehab agencies as long as they can do it, and year after year nothing gets done to stop this abuse. If we ever see real change, more people WHO REALLY NEED these things will be able to afford them. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I wish there was a way to make these various agencies wholly accountable for the excessive charges on handicapped equipment and services. The thinking is that most of the purchases will be through government agencies which are so mired with paperwork anyway that nobody takes the time to shop prices. Until this changes, we're going to continue to see this kind of disparity, whether it's with wheelchairs, diabetic equipment or CCTV equipment for the partially sighted. It galls me that year after year these companies cry " limited market " to justify their supreme prices, and at the same time charge even higher to rehab agencies as long as they can do it, and year after year nothing gets done to stop this abuse. If we ever see real change, more people WHO REALLY NEED these things will be able to afford them. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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