Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 and the difference is???? the mortgage deduction is a program that assists homeowners. SNAP assists with buying food. Both are costs to the government Debra > > > > ly, I'm rather tired of this sort of incendiary reporting. > > Remember, the press also reported on the now infamous Bachman > > comment that the US was spending billions on the President's trip to > > India. If you haven't heard, that wasn't the truth either. > > > > It's very easy to blame those who don't have a voice, isn't it? I'd be > > willing to bet that the vast majority of those receiving aid are not > > off vacationing on your dollar. > > > > BTW, there have been pilot tests of drug testing for aid recipients. > > Guess what? The rates were no higher than rates in the general public. > > It's sort of not Constitutional, according to some who believe in the > > right to privacy. Mind you, when I was in the Army, the right to > > privacy did not apply and so yes, I was subject to random drug > > testing. It's expensive to do right. Since the current atmosphere is > > to cut funding rather than spend more, who is going to volunteer to > > pay for drug testing? > > > > > > Pam Charney > > pcharney@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 - thanks! Just goes to show you that we need to appreciate individuals rather than lumping everyone into 1 category. I never understood the fuss about marijuana...after all, it occurs in nature and the natives used it in their ceremonies , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks , > > Frances Lappe's new book is about courage - I found it very helpful and > slightly ironic that her Diet for a Small Planet is what got me headed in a > whole foods vegetarian direction a long time ago and now her tiny gem of a book > helped me keep going through self-doubt. > > You Have The Power: Choosing Courage In A Culture Of Fear, by Lappe, > Frances , (Tarcher/Penguin, 2004) We are overloaded with terrorizing > messages from marketers and news. > > Addiction is all about fear - 12 steppers talk about AA helping them to learn > how to live sober - they already know how to stop drinking, they all have > stopped any number of times. The question is how to not start again - how to not > go for that ritualistic, familiar habit that works so well in the short run > (delusional thinking a problem as well as the impulse control). > > If Parks could sit down for her convictions, then I can stand up for mine. > My parents aren't speaking to me - it's not easy choosing health over status quo > but I am healthier and I think and move better with adequate cannabinoids. If I > hadn't started reading I wouldn't have found out that street pot really is too > high in THC and low in the pain killing non-pyschoactive cannabinoids (several > exist) and that " eat it, don't heat it " delivers 100's times more CBD's because > the heat would have converted them to THC. Too much THC causes anxiety; the > CBD's have a balancing anti-anxiety effect as well as medicinal effects. THC > also has medicinal and weight loss effects. Approximately 3 grams per day > medical grade marijuana delivers a dose of THC that is associated with weight > loss and appetite control. (down-side the $60/day street price for that amount > and the 'euphoria' can get in the way of productivity). The munchies occur more > in new users or with certain strains of pot. The aromatic terpenes also have > medicinal effects. > > The Living Harvest brand hemp oil and hemp protein powder help my symptoms but > the company doesn't have CBD content information - only the 0 % THC guarantee. > I want to get them tested. When I haven't been eating as much fresh garden trim, > or the oil or protein powder, I start to crave chocolate again and it takes a > lot more chocolate to meet that 'appetite' then the tsp of hemp oil or scoop of > protein powder that I use. For me, smoking is still important (I think > inhalation vs poor gut absorption is part of the issue), but for others the THC > free products might help enough. Others being people who also may have genetic > defects in the endogenous cannabinoid receptor system. A study on driving and > marijuana mentioned a person with ADD who couldn't pass the obstacle course > until after the marijuana ingestion. Lupus, MS, Huntington's chorea - if they > could be helped before the degeneration is too advanced, then why shouldn't we > try potential avenues that are non-toxic. > > http://hddrugworks.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=289 & Itemid=30 > Stigma in Huntington's Disease: The RESPOND-HD Study posted Jan 5, 2011 by > LaVonne Goodman M.D. > > Balance is not easy still - I spend too much time reading. I had gone mostly > cold turkey on reading before the 10-15-10 annoying psychiatrist appointment. Am > I still an addict - yes - is marijuana an addiction or a medicine - at this > stage of my use - it is probably still both - I can overuse it but underusing it > doesn't help me either. Do I think that I could work full time in an acute care > setting while using THC throughout the day - probably not, to be honest with > myself and others - it can increase my roller coaster flakiness - ingesting > CBD's though would be fine in any setting. > > I hope my story is informative and helpful. Boundaries can be barriers to > growth. I was an ice queen, and when my boundaries dropped they crashed. I am > trying to learn where the Too Much Information line exists but I don't always > get it right. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.gingerjens.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ro <lindarord@... <lindarord%40att.net>> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:40:10 AM > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > , > You have been very open. That takes courage. > Ro > > From: Vajda > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:58 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > It is interesting, He talks about choice and that learning the consequences of > the addictive behavior eventually leads most people out of addiction by or in > their thirties. He refers to having used epidemiology studies that other > addiction research has overlooked and is suggesting that the bulk of research on > > over 40 y/o long-term addicts may not fully represent all types of addicts. > > I fall in the over 40 y/o group and I started young. I grew up with binge > eating interspersed with very healthy planned meals and snacks as the role > model. Control and chaos. Addictive behavior comes in many forms. At the root is > > usually low self worth if not out right self loathing. It is easy for me to > believe " that a person can voluntarily engage in a behavior that is > self-destructive. " Novel reading and binge eating, shopping or working too much > - all escaping emotional connection and hiding from life. A guided meditation > tape, Slim Naturally - Howell, helped me figure out that the emotion I was > > stuffing down with the food was unspoken anger. > http://www.brainsync.com/shop/slim-naturally.html > > Inside the Cutter's Mind, by Jerusha was also very helpful. The author > shares some of her eating issues as she is telling the story of those with > greater pain to release. > > The Adult Child 12 Step book and group helped me a lot. My parents were great > but I didn't learn emotional health or strength. I learned how to please others > or give up trying and do whatever I wanted and hope for minimal fall-out. I've > attended several types of 12 step groups and the process actually does mesh well > > with cognitive therapy and self awareness work. The groups vary with the > individuals though and sometimes that can lead to predator/victim ( " Did he 13th > step you?) or codependent relationships- old-timers spending all their time in > group work. > > An addict doesn't want to be an addict, they just don't know anything better - > at the moment - better impulse control would certainly help. I'm walking a > little to far down the road with annie these days. Menu planning is not a > natural instinct for me. flaw in a dietitian. > > I am a registered medical marijuana patient in Michigan. What I felt was > discriminatory treatment by a doctor kick-started my recent research binge > (10-15-10). I discovered that we have an extensive endogenous cannabinoid > receptor system in our bodies and it can up and down regulate all 4 main > neurotransmitters and the locomotor areas of the brain. And there are known > genetic defects in the system. ADD/autism symptoms match one of the known > defects. There are parents who have successfully tried cannabis brownies with > their autistic child and then stopped due to the disapproval (Med Marijuana > article need to find). There is no reason for that - hemp protein and oil > products - provide cannabinoids without THC, chocolate is also a source. > Pregnant women have increased stores of endogenous cannabinoids (when > functioning right), they are in breast milk and help promote suckling behavior. > Momma's of all species lick their babies because it stimulates the newborn's own > > production of cannabinoids. Now would a gentle massage with a damp cloth do the > same thing in the NICU? I don't know. Would incorporating a little hemp oil, > also a natural source of omega 3's and GLA, into infant formula help them to > feed and develop better? needs research. I think it would at least help the > 'canaries'. Autistic or eczema babies, or poor feeding babies. Lupus and MS and > Huntington's may all have a different genetic flaw in the system. > > Cannabinoids reduce sugar and alcohol cravings - there was less of an effect > found for cocaine cravings. They are important in apoptosis and can block > calcium, glutamate, and aspartate protein channels , protect and repair stroke > damage. Lack of it during the crucial 0-3 years may leave babies with brains > that didn't get 'pruned' properly. We are born with too many connections and our > > early years are spent developing regular networks and deleting extraneous nerve > connections. - Autism caught earlier might be repairable with essential > cannabinoids. > > Endocannabinoids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > > Reply to group | > Reply via web post | > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2Q2czBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE\ yOTc5NTQwMjU->Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/24619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NGNpZ21yB\ F9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyNDY3OARzZ\ WMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTc5NTQwMjUEdHBjSWQDMjQ2MTk-> > (44) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't get the fuss about MJ too but bc it doesn't have a physiological addiction, but rather psychological. However, as for " the nature " origin of it - so is heroin and tabbacco and many drugs could be deadly yet orginiate from mother nature. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: jenzingaro@... Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:24:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations - thanks! Just goes to show you that we need to appreciate individuals rather than lumping everyone into 1 category. I never understood the fuss about marijuana...after all, it occurs in nature and the natives used it in their ceremonies , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks , > > Frances Lappe's new book is about courage - I found it very helpful and > slightly ironic that her Diet for a Small Planet is what got me headed in a > whole foods vegetarian direction a long time ago and now her tiny gem of a book > helped me keep going through self-doubt. > > You Have The Power: Choosing Courage In A Culture Of Fear, by Lappe, > Frances , (Tarcher/Penguin, 2004) We are overloaded with terrorizing > messages from marketers and news. > > Addiction is all about fear - 12 steppers talk about AA helping them to learn > how to live sober - they already know how to stop drinking, they all have > stopped any number of times. The question is how to not start again - how to not > go for that ritualistic, familiar habit that works so well in the short run > (delusional thinking a problem as well as the impulse control). > > If Parks could sit down for her convictions, then I can stand up for mine. > My parents aren't speaking to me - it's not easy choosing health over status quo > but I am healthier and I think and move better with adequate cannabinoids. If I > hadn't started reading I wouldn't have found out that street pot really is too > high in THC and low in the pain killing non-pyschoactive cannabinoids (several > exist) and that " eat it, don't heat it " delivers 100's times more CBD's because > the heat would have converted them to THC. Too much THC causes anxiety; the > CBD's have a balancing anti-anxiety effect as well as medicinal effects. THC > also has medicinal and weight loss effects. Approximately 3 grams per day > medical grade marijuana delivers a dose of THC that is associated with weight > loss and appetite control. (down-side the $60/day street price for that amount > and the 'euphoria' can get in the way of productivity). The munchies occur more > in new users or with certain strains of pot. The aromatic terpenes also have > medicinal effects. > > The Living Harvest brand hemp oil and hemp protein powder help my symptoms but > the company doesn't have CBD content information - only the 0 % THC guarantee. > I want to get them tested. When I haven't been eating as much fresh garden trim, > or the oil or protein powder, I start to crave chocolate again and it takes a > lot more chocolate to meet that 'appetite' then the tsp of hemp oil or scoop of > protein powder that I use. For me, smoking is still important (I think > inhalation vs poor gut absorption is part of the issue), but for others the THC > free products might help enough. Others being people who also may have genetic > defects in the endogenous cannabinoid receptor system. A study on driving and > marijuana mentioned a person with ADD who couldn't pass the obstacle course > until after the marijuana ingestion. Lupus, MS, Huntington's chorea - if they > could be helped before the degeneration is too advanced, then why shouldn't we > try potential avenues that are non-toxic. > > http://hddrugworks.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=289 & Itemid=30 > Stigma in Huntington's Disease: The RESPOND-HD Study posted Jan 5, 2011 by > LaVonne Goodman M.D. > > Balance is not easy still - I spend too much time reading. I had gone mostly > cold turkey on reading before the 10-15-10 annoying psychiatrist appointment. Am > I still an addict - yes - is marijuana an addiction or a medicine - at this > stage of my use - it is probably still both - I can overuse it but underusing it > doesn't help me either. Do I think that I could work full time in an acute care > setting while using THC throughout the day - probably not, to be honest with > myself and others - it can increase my roller coaster flakiness - ingesting > CBD's though would be fine in any setting. > > I hope my story is informative and helpful. Boundaries can be barriers to > growth. I was an ice queen, and when my boundaries dropped they crashed. I am > trying to learn where the Too Much Information line exists but I don't always > get it right. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.gingerjens.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ro <lindarord@... <lindarord%40att.net>> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:40:10 AM > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > , > You have been very open. That takes courage. > Ro > > From: Vajda > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:58 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > It is interesting, He talks about choice and that learning the consequences of > the addictive behavior eventually leads most people out of addiction by or in > their thirties. He refers to having used epidemiology studies that other > addiction research has overlooked and is suggesting that the bulk of research on > > over 40 y/o long-term addicts may not fully represent all types of addicts. > > I fall in the over 40 y/o group and I started young. I grew up with binge > eating interspersed with very healthy planned meals and snacks as the role > model. Control and chaos. Addictive behavior comes in many forms. At the root is > > usually low self worth if not out right self loathing. It is easy for me to > believe " that a person can voluntarily engage in a behavior that is > self-destructive. " Novel reading and binge eating, shopping or working too much > - all escaping emotional connection and hiding from life. A guided meditation > tape, Slim Naturally - Howell, helped me figure out that the emotion I was > > stuffing down with the food was unspoken anger. > http://www.brainsync.com/shop/slim-naturally.html > > Inside the Cutter's Mind, by Jerusha was also very helpful. The author > shares some of her eating issues as she is telling the story of those with > greater pain to release. > > The Adult Child 12 Step book and group helped me a lot. My parents were great > but I didn't learn emotional health or strength. I learned how to please others > or give up trying and do whatever I wanted and hope for minimal fall-out. I've > attended several types of 12 step groups and the process actually does mesh well > > with cognitive therapy and self awareness work. The groups vary with the > individuals though and sometimes that can lead to predator/victim ( " Did he 13th > step you?) or codependent relationships- old-timers spending all their time in > group work. > > An addict doesn't want to be an addict, they just don't know anything better - > at the moment - better impulse control would certainly help. I'm walking a > little to far down the road with annie these days. Menu planning is not a > natural instinct for me. flaw in a dietitian. > > I am a registered medical marijuana patient in Michigan. What I felt was > discriminatory treatment by a doctor kick-started my recent research binge > (10-15-10). I discovered that we have an extensive endogenous cannabinoid > receptor system in our bodies and it can up and down regulate all 4 main > neurotransmitters and the locomotor areas of the brain. And there are known > genetic defects in the system. ADD/autism symptoms match one of the known > defects. There are parents who have successfully tried cannabis brownies with > their autistic child and then stopped due to the disapproval (Med Marijuana > article need to find). There is no reason for that - hemp protein and oil > products - provide cannabinoids without THC, chocolate is also a source. > Pregnant women have increased stores of endogenous cannabinoids (when > functioning right), they are in breast milk and help promote suckling behavior. > Momma's of all species lick their babies because it stimulates the newborn's own > > production of cannabinoids. Now would a gentle massage with a damp cloth do the > same thing in the NICU? I don't know. Would incorporating a little hemp oil, > also a natural source of omega 3's and GLA, into infant formula help them to > feed and develop better? needs research. I think it would at least help the > 'canaries'. Autistic or eczema babies, or poor feeding babies. Lupus and MS and > Huntington's may all have a different genetic flaw in the system. > > Cannabinoids reduce sugar and alcohol cravings - there was less of an effect > found for cocaine cravings. They are important in apoptosis and can block > calcium, glutamate, and aspartate protein channels , protect and repair stroke > damage. Lack of it during the crucial 0-3 years may leave babies with brains > that didn't get 'pruned' properly. We are born with too many connections and our > > early years are spent developing regular networks and deleting extraneous nerve > connections. - Autism caught earlier might be repairable with essential > cannabinoids. > > Endocannabinoids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > > Reply to group | > Reply via web post | > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2Q2czBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0\ BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEy\ OTc5NTQwMjU->Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/24619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NGNpZ21yBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyNDY3OARzZWMDZnR\ yBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTc5NTQwMjUEdHBjSWQDMjQ2MTk-> > (44) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The black market stuff did get stronger then nature's design and literature does suggest that teens/kids may have lasting brain effects from early chronic smoking, esp if there was some susceptibility to schizophrenia in the family. I didn't start til college. I haven't seen any research on the food products and kid's mental development - still a new field. I realize I should write a hemp food product article for submission to the magazine I saw the autistic kids article in - why are there no articles - because I haven't written them yet. ; ) R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:21:33 PM Subject: RE: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations I don't get the fuss about MJ too but bc it doesn't have a physiological addiction, but rather psychological. However, as for " the nature " origin of it - so is heroin and tabbacco and many drugs could be deadly yet orginiate from mother nature. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: jenzingaro@... Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:24:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations - thanks! Just goes to show you that we need to appreciate individuals rather than lumping everyone into 1 category. I never understood the fuss about marijuana...after all, it occurs in nature and the natives used it in their ceremonies , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks , > > Frances Lappe's new book is about courage - I found it very helpful and > slightly ironic that her Diet for a Small Planet is what got me headed in a > whole foods vegetarian direction a long time ago and now her tiny gem of a book > helped me keep going through self-doubt. > > You Have The Power: Choosing Courage In A Culture Of Fear, by Lappe, > Frances , (Tarcher/Penguin, 2004) We are overloaded with terrorizing > messages from marketers and news. > > Addiction is all about fear - 12 steppers talk about AA helping them to learn > how to live sober - they already know how to stop drinking, they all have > stopped any number of times. The question is how to not start again - how to >not > go for that ritualistic, familiar habit that works so well in the short run > (delusional thinking a problem as well as the impulse control). > > If Parks could sit down for her convictions, then I can stand up for mine. > My parents aren't speaking to me - it's not easy choosing health over status >quo > but I am healthier and I think and move better with adequate cannabinoids. If I > hadn't started reading I wouldn't have found out that street pot really is too > high in THC and low in the pain killing non-pyschoactive cannabinoids (several > exist) and that " eat it, don't heat it " delivers 100's times more CBD's because > the heat would have converted them to THC. Too much THC causes anxiety; the > CBD's have a balancing anti-anxiety effect as well as medicinal effects. THC > also has medicinal and weight loss effects. Approximately 3 grams per day > medical grade marijuana delivers a dose of THC that is associated with weight > loss and appetite control. (down-side the $60/day street price for that amount > and the 'euphoria' can get in the way of productivity). The munchies occur more > in new users or with certain strains of pot. The aromatic terpenes also have > medicinal effects. > > The Living Harvest brand hemp oil and hemp protein powder help my symptoms but > the company doesn't have CBD content information - only the 0 % THC guarantee. > I want to get them tested. When I haven't been eating as much fresh garden >trim, > or the oil or protein powder, I start to crave chocolate again and it takes a > lot more chocolate to meet that 'appetite' then the tsp of hemp oil or scoop of > protein powder that I use. For me, smoking is still important (I think > inhalation vs poor gut absorption is part of the issue), but for others the THC > free products might help enough. Others being people who also may have genetic > defects in the endogenous cannabinoid receptor system. A study on driving and > marijuana mentioned a person with ADD who couldn't pass the obstacle course > until after the marijuana ingestion. Lupus, MS, Huntington's chorea - if they > could be helped before the degeneration is too advanced, then why shouldn't we > try potential avenues that are non-toxic. > > http://hddrugworks.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=289 & Itemid=30 > Stigma in Huntington's Disease: The RESPOND-HD Study posted Jan 5, 2011 by > LaVonne Goodman M.D. > > Balance is not easy still - I spend too much time reading. I had gone mostly > cold turkey on reading before the 10-15-10 annoying psychiatrist appointment. >Am > I still an addict - yes - is marijuana an addiction or a medicine - at this > stage of my use - it is probably still both - I can overuse it but underusing >it > doesn't help me either. Do I think that I could work full time in an acute care > setting while using THC throughout the day - probably not, to be honest with > myself and others - it can increase my roller coaster flakiness - ingesting > CBD's though would be fine in any setting. > > I hope my story is informative and helpful. Boundaries can be barriers to > growth. I was an ice queen, and when my boundaries dropped they crashed. I am > trying to learn where the Too Much Information line exists but I don't always > get it right. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.gingerjens.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ro <lindarord@... <lindarord%40att.net>> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:40:10 AM > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > , > You have been very open. That takes courage. > Ro > > From: Vajda > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:58 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > It is interesting, He talks about choice and that learning the consequences of > the addictive behavior eventually leads most people out of addiction by or in > their thirties. He refers to having used epidemiology studies that other > addiction research has overlooked and is suggesting that the bulk of research >on > > over 40 y/o long-term addicts may not fully represent all types of addicts. > > I fall in the over 40 y/o group and I started young. I grew up with binge > eating interspersed with very healthy planned meals and snacks as the role > model. Control and chaos. Addictive behavior comes in many forms. At the root >is > > usually low self worth if not out right self loathing. It is easy for me to > believe " that a person can voluntarily engage in a behavior that is > self-destructive. " Novel reading and binge eating, shopping or working too much > - all escaping emotional connection and hiding from life. A guided meditation > tape, Slim Naturally - Howell, helped me figure out that the emotion I >was > > stuffing down with the food was unspoken anger. > http://www.brainsync.com/shop/slim-naturally.html > > Inside the Cutter's Mind, by Jerusha was also very helpful. The author > shares some of her eating issues as she is telling the story of those with > greater pain to release. > > The Adult Child 12 Step book and group helped me a lot. My parents were great > but I didn't learn emotional health or strength. I learned how to please others > or give up trying and do whatever I wanted and hope for minimal fall-out. I've > attended several types of 12 step groups and the process actually does mesh >well > > with cognitive therapy and self awareness work. The groups vary with the > individuals though and sometimes that can lead to predator/victim ( " Did he 13th > step you?) or codependent relationships- old-timers spending all their time in > group work. > > An addict doesn't want to be an addict, they just don't know anything better - > at the moment - better impulse control would certainly help. I'm walking a > little to far down the road with annie these days. Menu planning is not a > natural instinct for me. flaw in a dietitian. > > I am a registered medical marijuana patient in Michigan. What I felt was > discriminatory treatment by a doctor kick-started my recent research binge > (10-15-10). I discovered that we have an extensive endogenous cannabinoid > receptor system in our bodies and it can up and down regulate all 4 main > neurotransmitters and the locomotor areas of the brain. And there are known > genetic defects in the system. ADD/autism symptoms match one of the known > defects. There are parents who have successfully tried cannabis brownies with > their autistic child and then stopped due to the disapproval (Med Marijuana > article need to find). There is no reason for that - hemp protein and oil > products - provide cannabinoids without THC, chocolate is also a source. > Pregnant women have increased stores of endogenous cannabinoids (when > functioning right), they are in breast milk and help promote suckling behavior. > Momma's of all species lick their babies because it stimulates the newborn's >own > > production of cannabinoids. Now would a gentle massage with a damp cloth do the > same thing in the NICU? I don't know. Would incorporating a little hemp oil, > also a natural source of omega 3's and GLA, into infant formula help them to > feed and develop better? needs research. I think it would at least help the > 'canaries'. Autistic or eczema babies, or poor feeding babies. Lupus and MS and > Huntington's may all have a different genetic flaw in the system. > > Cannabinoids reduce sugar and alcohol cravings - there was less of an effect > found for cocaine cravings. They are important in apoptosis and can block > calcium, glutamate, and aspartate protein channels , protect and repair stroke > damage. Lack of it during the crucial 0-3 years may leave babies with brains > that didn't get 'pruned' properly. We are born with too many connections and >our > > early years are spent developing regular networks and deleting extraneous nerve > connections. - Autism caught earlier might be repairable with essential > cannabinoids. > > Endocannabinoids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > > Reply to group | > Reply via web post | > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2Q2czBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE\ yOTc5NTQwMjU->Messages > in this topic ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/24619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NGNpZ21yBF9TAz\ k3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyNDY3OARzZWMDZn\ RyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTc5NTQwMjUEdHBjSWQDMjQ2MTk-> > > (44) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The black market stuff did get stronger then nature's design and literature does suggest that teens/kids may have lasting brain effects from early chronic smoking, esp if there was some susceptibility to schizophrenia in the family. I didn't start til college. I haven't seen any research on the food products and kid's mental development - still a new field. I realize I should write a hemp food product article for submission to the magazine I saw the autistic kids article in - why are there no articles - because I haven't written them yet. ; ) R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:21:33 PM Subject: RE: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations I don't get the fuss about MJ too but bc it doesn't have a physiological addiction, but rather psychological. However, as for " the nature " origin of it - so is heroin and tabbacco and many drugs could be deadly yet orginiate from mother nature. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: jenzingaro@... Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:24:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations - thanks! Just goes to show you that we need to appreciate individuals rather than lumping everyone into 1 category. I never understood the fuss about marijuana...after all, it occurs in nature and the natives used it in their ceremonies , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks , > > Frances Lappe's new book is about courage - I found it very helpful and > slightly ironic that her Diet for a Small Planet is what got me headed in a > whole foods vegetarian direction a long time ago and now her tiny gem of a book > helped me keep going through self-doubt. > > You Have The Power: Choosing Courage In A Culture Of Fear, by Lappe, > Frances , (Tarcher/Penguin, 2004) We are overloaded with terrorizing > messages from marketers and news. > > Addiction is all about fear - 12 steppers talk about AA helping them to learn > how to live sober - they already know how to stop drinking, they all have > stopped any number of times. The question is how to not start again - how to >not > go for that ritualistic, familiar habit that works so well in the short run > (delusional thinking a problem as well as the impulse control). > > If Parks could sit down for her convictions, then I can stand up for mine. > My parents aren't speaking to me - it's not easy choosing health over status >quo > but I am healthier and I think and move better with adequate cannabinoids. If I > hadn't started reading I wouldn't have found out that street pot really is too > high in THC and low in the pain killing non-pyschoactive cannabinoids (several > exist) and that " eat it, don't heat it " delivers 100's times more CBD's because > the heat would have converted them to THC. Too much THC causes anxiety; the > CBD's have a balancing anti-anxiety effect as well as medicinal effects. THC > also has medicinal and weight loss effects. Approximately 3 grams per day > medical grade marijuana delivers a dose of THC that is associated with weight > loss and appetite control. (down-side the $60/day street price for that amount > and the 'euphoria' can get in the way of productivity). The munchies occur more > in new users or with certain strains of pot. The aromatic terpenes also have > medicinal effects. > > The Living Harvest brand hemp oil and hemp protein powder help my symptoms but > the company doesn't have CBD content information - only the 0 % THC guarantee. > I want to get them tested. When I haven't been eating as much fresh garden >trim, > or the oil or protein powder, I start to crave chocolate again and it takes a > lot more chocolate to meet that 'appetite' then the tsp of hemp oil or scoop of > protein powder that I use. For me, smoking is still important (I think > inhalation vs poor gut absorption is part of the issue), but for others the THC > free products might help enough. Others being people who also may have genetic > defects in the endogenous cannabinoid receptor system. A study on driving and > marijuana mentioned a person with ADD who couldn't pass the obstacle course > until after the marijuana ingestion. Lupus, MS, Huntington's chorea - if they > could be helped before the degeneration is too advanced, then why shouldn't we > try potential avenues that are non-toxic. > > http://hddrugworks.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=289 & Itemid=30 > Stigma in Huntington's Disease: The RESPOND-HD Study posted Jan 5, 2011 by > LaVonne Goodman M.D. > > Balance is not easy still - I spend too much time reading. I had gone mostly > cold turkey on reading before the 10-15-10 annoying psychiatrist appointment. >Am > I still an addict - yes - is marijuana an addiction or a medicine - at this > stage of my use - it is probably still both - I can overuse it but underusing >it > doesn't help me either. Do I think that I could work full time in an acute care > setting while using THC throughout the day - probably not, to be honest with > myself and others - it can increase my roller coaster flakiness - ingesting > CBD's though would be fine in any setting. > > I hope my story is informative and helpful. Boundaries can be barriers to > growth. I was an ice queen, and when my boundaries dropped they crashed. I am > trying to learn where the Too Much Information line exists but I don't always > get it right. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.gingerjens.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ro <lindarord@... <lindarord%40att.net>> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:40:10 AM > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > , > You have been very open. That takes courage. > Ro > > From: Vajda > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:58 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > It is interesting, He talks about choice and that learning the consequences of > the addictive behavior eventually leads most people out of addiction by or in > their thirties. He refers to having used epidemiology studies that other > addiction research has overlooked and is suggesting that the bulk of research >on > > over 40 y/o long-term addicts may not fully represent all types of addicts. > > I fall in the over 40 y/o group and I started young. I grew up with binge > eating interspersed with very healthy planned meals and snacks as the role > model. Control and chaos. Addictive behavior comes in many forms. At the root >is > > usually low self worth if not out right self loathing. It is easy for me to > believe " that a person can voluntarily engage in a behavior that is > self-destructive. " Novel reading and binge eating, shopping or working too much > - all escaping emotional connection and hiding from life. A guided meditation > tape, Slim Naturally - Howell, helped me figure out that the emotion I >was > > stuffing down with the food was unspoken anger. > http://www.brainsync.com/shop/slim-naturally.html > > Inside the Cutter's Mind, by Jerusha was also very helpful. The author > shares some of her eating issues as she is telling the story of those with > greater pain to release. > > The Adult Child 12 Step book and group helped me a lot. My parents were great > but I didn't learn emotional health or strength. I learned how to please others > or give up trying and do whatever I wanted and hope for minimal fall-out. I've > attended several types of 12 step groups and the process actually does mesh >well > > with cognitive therapy and self awareness work. The groups vary with the > individuals though and sometimes that can lead to predator/victim ( " Did he 13th > step you?) or codependent relationships- old-timers spending all their time in > group work. > > An addict doesn't want to be an addict, they just don't know anything better - > at the moment - better impulse control would certainly help. I'm walking a > little to far down the road with annie these days. Menu planning is not a > natural instinct for me. flaw in a dietitian. > > I am a registered medical marijuana patient in Michigan. What I felt was > discriminatory treatment by a doctor kick-started my recent research binge > (10-15-10). I discovered that we have an extensive endogenous cannabinoid > receptor system in our bodies and it can up and down regulate all 4 main > neurotransmitters and the locomotor areas of the brain. And there are known > genetic defects in the system. ADD/autism symptoms match one of the known > defects. There are parents who have successfully tried cannabis brownies with > their autistic child and then stopped due to the disapproval (Med Marijuana > article need to find). There is no reason for that - hemp protein and oil > products - provide cannabinoids without THC, chocolate is also a source. > Pregnant women have increased stores of endogenous cannabinoids (when > functioning right), they are in breast milk and help promote suckling behavior. > Momma's of all species lick their babies because it stimulates the newborn's >own > > production of cannabinoids. Now would a gentle massage with a damp cloth do the > same thing in the NICU? I don't know. Would incorporating a little hemp oil, > also a natural source of omega 3's and GLA, into infant formula help them to > feed and develop better? needs research. I think it would at least help the > 'canaries'. Autistic or eczema babies, or poor feeding babies. Lupus and MS and > Huntington's may all have a different genetic flaw in the system. > > Cannabinoids reduce sugar and alcohol cravings - there was less of an effect > found for cocaine cravings. They are important in apoptosis and can block > calcium, glutamate, and aspartate protein channels , protect and repair stroke > damage. Lack of it during the crucial 0-3 years may leave babies with brains > that didn't get 'pruned' properly. We are born with too many connections and >our > > early years are spent developing regular networks and deleting extraneous nerve > connections. - Autism caught earlier might be repairable with essential > cannabinoids. > > Endocannabinoids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > > Reply to group | > Reply via web post | > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2Q2czBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE\ yOTc5NTQwMjU->Messages > in this topic ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/24619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NGNpZ21yBF9TAz\ k3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyNDY3OARzZWMDZn\ RyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTc5NTQwMjUEdHBjSWQDMjQ2MTk-> > > (44) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 MJ obviously affects the brain, otherwise ppl would not have loved it so much, BUT it doesn't have the physical dependency, in other words, if someone stops smoking pot they don't get the withdrawal symptoms that harder drug give.And last time I heard, long ago, was that MJ does not pass the placenta. IT was a reliable source but not a study, someone who worked with drub abusers. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: jennyvajda@... Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:02:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations The black market stuff did get stronger then nature's design and literature does suggest that teens/kids may have lasting brain effects from early chronic smoking, esp if there was some susceptibility to schizophrenia in the family. I didn't start til college. I haven't seen any research on the food products and kid's mental development - still a new field. I realize I should write a hemp food product article for submission to the magazine I saw the autistic kids article in - why are there no articles - because I haven't written them yet. ; ) R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:21:33 PM Subject: RE: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations I don't get the fuss about MJ too but bc it doesn't have a physiological addiction, but rather psychological. However, as for " the nature " origin of it - so is heroin and tabbacco and many drugs could be deadly yet orginiate from mother nature. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: jenzingaro@... Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:24:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations - thanks! Just goes to show you that we need to appreciate individuals rather than lumping everyone into 1 category. I never understood the fuss about marijuana...after all, it occurs in nature and the natives used it in their ceremonies , etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks , > > Frances Lappe's new book is about courage - I found it very helpful and > slightly ironic that her Diet for a Small Planet is what got me headed in a > whole foods vegetarian direction a long time ago and now her tiny gem of a book > helped me keep going through self-doubt. > > You Have The Power: Choosing Courage In A Culture Of Fear, by Lappe, > Frances , (Tarcher/Penguin, 2004) We are overloaded with terrorizing > messages from marketers and news. > > Addiction is all about fear - 12 steppers talk about AA helping them to learn > how to live sober - they already know how to stop drinking, they all have > stopped any number of times. The question is how to not start again - how to >not > go for that ritualistic, familiar habit that works so well in the short run > (delusional thinking a problem as well as the impulse control). > > If Parks could sit down for her convictions, then I can stand up for mine. > My parents aren't speaking to me - it's not easy choosing health over status >quo > but I am healthier and I think and move better with adequate cannabinoids. If I > hadn't started reading I wouldn't have found out that street pot really is too > high in THC and low in the pain killing non-pyschoactive cannabinoids (several > exist) and that " eat it, don't heat it " delivers 100's times more CBD's because > the heat would have converted them to THC. Too much THC causes anxiety; the > CBD's have a balancing anti-anxiety effect as well as medicinal effects. THC > also has medicinal and weight loss effects. Approximately 3 grams per day > medical grade marijuana delivers a dose of THC that is associated with weight > loss and appetite control. (down-side the $60/day street price for that amount > and the 'euphoria' can get in the way of productivity). The munchies occur more > in new users or with certain strains of pot. The aromatic terpenes also have > medicinal effects. > > The Living Harvest brand hemp oil and hemp protein powder help my symptoms but > the company doesn't have CBD content information - only the 0 % THC guarantee. > I want to get them tested. When I haven't been eating as much fresh garden >trim, > or the oil or protein powder, I start to crave chocolate again and it takes a > lot more chocolate to meet that 'appetite' then the tsp of hemp oil or scoop of > protein powder that I use. For me, smoking is still important (I think > inhalation vs poor gut absorption is part of the issue), but for others the THC > free products might help enough. Others being people who also may have genetic > defects in the endogenous cannabinoid receptor system. A study on driving and > marijuana mentioned a person with ADD who couldn't pass the obstacle course > until after the marijuana ingestion. Lupus, MS, Huntington's chorea - if they > could be helped before the degeneration is too advanced, then why shouldn't we > try potential avenues that are non-toxic. > > http://hddrugworks.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=289 & Itemid=30 > Stigma in Huntington's Disease: The RESPOND-HD Study posted Jan 5, 2011 by > LaVonne Goodman M.D. > > Balance is not easy still - I spend too much time reading. I had gone mostly > cold turkey on reading before the 10-15-10 annoying psychiatrist appointment. >Am > I still an addict - yes - is marijuana an addiction or a medicine - at this > stage of my use - it is probably still both - I can overuse it but underusing >it > doesn't help me either. Do I think that I could work full time in an acute care > setting while using THC throughout the day - probably not, to be honest with > myself and others - it can increase my roller coaster flakiness - ingesting > CBD's though would be fine in any setting. > > I hope my story is informative and helpful. Boundaries can be barriers to > growth. I was an ice queen, and when my boundaries dropped they crashed. I am > trying to learn where the Too Much Information line exists but I don't always > get it right. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.gingerjens.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ro <lindarord@... <lindarord%40att.net>> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 7:40:10 AM > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > , > You have been very open. That takes courage. > Ro > > From: Vajda > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:58 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic > locations > > It is interesting, He talks about choice and that learning the consequences of > the addictive behavior eventually leads most people out of addiction by or in > their thirties. He refers to having used epidemiology studies that other > addiction research has overlooked and is suggesting that the bulk of research >on > > over 40 y/o long-term addicts may not fully represent all types of addicts. > > I fall in the over 40 y/o group and I started young. I grew up with binge > eating interspersed with very healthy planned meals and snacks as the role > model. Control and chaos. Addictive behavior comes in many forms. At the root >is > > usually low self worth if not out right self loathing. It is easy for me to > believe " that a person can voluntarily engage in a behavior that is > self-destructive. " Novel reading and binge eating, shopping or working too much > - all escaping emotional connection and hiding from life. A guided meditation > tape, Slim Naturally - Howell, helped me figure out that the emotion I >was > > stuffing down with the food was unspoken anger. > http://www.brainsync.com/shop/slim-naturally.html > > Inside the Cutter's Mind, by Jerusha was also very helpful. The author > shares some of her eating issues as she is telling the story of those with > greater pain to release. > > The Adult Child 12 Step book and group helped me a lot. My parents were great > but I didn't learn emotional health or strength. I learned how to please others > or give up trying and do whatever I wanted and hope for minimal fall-out. I've > attended several types of 12 step groups and the process actually does mesh >well > > with cognitive therapy and self awareness work. The groups vary with the > individuals though and sometimes that can lead to predator/victim ( " Did he 13th > step you?) or codependent relationships- old-timers spending all their time in > group work. > > An addict doesn't want to be an addict, they just don't know anything better - > at the moment - better impulse control would certainly help. I'm walking a > little to far down the road with annie these days. Menu planning is not a > natural instinct for me. flaw in a dietitian. > > I am a registered medical marijuana patient in Michigan. What I felt was > discriminatory treatment by a doctor kick-started my recent research binge > (10-15-10). I discovered that we have an extensive endogenous cannabinoid > receptor system in our bodies and it can up and down regulate all 4 main > neurotransmitters and the locomotor areas of the brain. And there are known > genetic defects in the system. ADD/autism symptoms match one of the known > defects. There are parents who have successfully tried cannabis brownies with > their autistic child and then stopped due to the disapproval (Med Marijuana > article need to find). There is no reason for that - hemp protein and oil > products - provide cannabinoids without THC, chocolate is also a source. > Pregnant women have increased stores of endogenous cannabinoids (when > functioning right), they are in breast milk and help promote suckling behavior. > Momma's of all species lick their babies because it stimulates the newborn's >own > > production of cannabinoids. Now would a gentle massage with a damp cloth do the > same thing in the NICU? I don't know. Would incorporating a little hemp oil, > also a natural source of omega 3's and GLA, into infant formula help them to > feed and develop better? needs research. I think it would at least help the > 'canaries'. Autistic or eczema babies, or poor feeding babies. Lupus and MS and > Huntington's may all have a different genetic flaw in the system. > > Cannabinoids reduce sugar and alcohol cravings - there was less of an effect > found for cocaine cravings. They are important in apoptosis and can block > calcium, glutamate, and aspartate protein channels , protect and repair stroke > damage. Lack of it during the crucial 0-3 years may leave babies with brains > that didn't get 'pruned' properly. We are born with too many connections and >our > > early years are spent developing regular networks and deleting extraneous nerve > connections. - Autism caught earlier might be repairable with essential > cannabinoids. > > Endocannabinoids > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > > Reply to group | > Reply via web post | > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2Q2czBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE\ yOTc5NTQwMjU->Messages > in this topic ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/24619;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NGNpZ21yBF9TAz\ k3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyNDY3OARzZWMDZn\ RyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyOTc5NTQwMjUEdHBjSWQDMjQ2MTk-> > > (44) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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