RE: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic locations

[Guest guest]

If we all know where everyone stands on these issues, then why tell us yours? I

disagree with just letting president's families' spend tax dollars for

vacations, etc. any way they choose. But then, you already knew my stance on

this, so why are you reading it?

W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

Long Term Care Consulting

Montana State Hospital

Montana Developmental Center

Certified LEAP Therapist

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Jen

Zingaro

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:58 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Welfare Recepients withdrawing money in vacation/exotic

locations

I can't believe we are having ANOTHER discussion about this. We all know

where everyone stands by now on social/political issues.

Let's remember that smoking and drinking and drugs are all addictions....

and they are very hard to beat. Sure, people should not have started in the

first place, but I'm guessing a lot of time life is stressful and perhaps

they turn to something like that. We can't even agree to provide the poor

food and healthcare, let alone rehab/mental health services.

Also, the first lady and her children didn't run for political office.

There is no justification to begrudge them their vacation trips, no matter

where they are going. They would have had travel and security paid by us

irregardless and rightfully so. I'm sure a trip to Spain is a wonderful

educational opportunity for her children to see how other people live. Just

because other presidents chose to go to Camp or their ranch, it

shouldn't matter, period. Family should be off limits. They paid their way

for everything else.

Mandatory drug testing. Is it REALLY worth it? Think about the money spent

to pay for the tests and to hire people (OH NO, more government workers) to

administer and process this testing and follow up on the whole thing. Talk

about bureaucracy!! Sure, the government says they are only looking for

drugs, but imagine what else they can glean from one's urine? Can we be

absolutely sure they are only testing for drugs? And if the food stamp

dollars get parents that are using drugs, food for their children rather

than starving, then I'm okay with that....

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Merav Levi

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> Absolutely,I am with you. I don't think all poor ppl abuse the system, but

> I work for a city hospital and I see a lot of it too, a lot of " I am

> entitled " instead of " thank you " . so there are all kinds and I am all for

> supporting the poor, and I agree - abuse is everywhere to this extant or the

> other, but we should strive to do everything possible to eliminate it to

> minimum. I would love to hear more details, and yes, I would love to hear it

> is all fiction, but I believe this is also too good to be true. It does not

> stop me from continuing giving to charities, bc I know the $$$ is mostly

> used for good, but would like to know everything is done to prevent the bad.

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> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police.

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> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> From: jenniferschmerge@...<mailto:jenniferschmerge%40yahoo.com>

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> the poor. Fraud and taxes are always going to be apart of life. I live in

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