Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority of Americans don't even follow those recommendations.  Bone health is a good example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual nutrients. For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with increased risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. Both have changed in the past few decades (for the worse).  Holly  ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read  Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority of Americans don't even follow those recommendations.  Bone health is a good example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual nutrients. For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with increased risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. Both have changed in the past few decades (for the worse).  Holly  ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read  Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority > of > Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is a good > example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual > nutrients. > For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with > increased > risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. > Both have > changed in the past few decades (for the worse). > > Holly > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > ________________________________ > > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > > > Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit > the > label of fanaticism. > > From my current version of my D/calcium paper: > > " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make > K-rations > that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. > The > original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. > The > calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed > > they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of > how > much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. > > Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a > simple > question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 > and > since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been > expanding > quicker than our budgets or belts. " > > How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that > calcium > supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies > over > time. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.GingerJens.com > > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM > Subject: Recommended article, please read > > Check out this great article: > > http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html > > It's really interesting. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 It is sad how much time babies spend in those car seats - weight bearing exercise is what rolling, crawling and getting in toddler trouble is all about. I have been reading about the importance of weight bearing exercise. Perfect health without that will still eventually lead to reduced bone mineralization. A friend who has been successful in her ten year osteoperosis battle (no meds yet) swears by weight bearing exercise. She walks, jogs, and takes care of a couple horses. Based on her research that type of exercise helps the rest of the bones more than the spine. She said that for the vertebrae to have the positive effect that the inverted yoga poses are the only thing she's found research showing bone remineralization benefits in the spine itself. The inverted yoga poses are also supposed to benefit the thyroid. I need to roll out my abandoned yoga mat and abandon this chair instead. Does anyone have any links about soda or phosphorus and bones? I have thought that is probably part of the problem but I haven't searched it specifically. Protein load would increase renal load and magnesium losses. Vajda, R.D. www.Gingerjens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 12:17:41 PM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority of Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is a good example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual nutrients. For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with increased risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. Both have changed in the past few decades (for the worse). Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Stupid moment - of course the pop is very acidic and it isn't just phosphorus load to consider, it is phosphoric acid load combined increasing renal losses of magnesium - and calcium probably. The pop drinkers aren't typically the milk drinkers, so double whammy on their bone stores. R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 12:17:41 PM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority of Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is a good example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual nutrients. For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with increased risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. Both have changed in the past few decades (for the worse). Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Stupid moment - of course the pop is very acidic and it isn't just phosphorus load to consider, it is phosphoric acid load combined increasing renal losses of magnesium - and calcium probably. The pop drinkers aren't typically the milk drinkers, so double whammy on their bone stores. R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 12:17:41 PM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast majority of Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is a good example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual nutrients. For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated with increased risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. Both have changed in the past few decades (for the worse). Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem to fit the label of fanaticism. From my current version of my D/calcium paper: " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K-rations that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of war. The original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of Medicine. The calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been reviewed they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estimation of how much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That is a simple question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed in 1997 and since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been expanding quicker than our budgets or belts. " How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice that calcium supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak bodies over time. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM Subject: Recommended article, please read Check out this great article: http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html It's really interesting. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to me by another doc! Sent from my iPhone > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > >> >> >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast >> majority >> of >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is >> a good >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual >> nutrients. >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated >> with >> increased >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. >> Both have >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). >> >> Holly >> ---------- >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV >> >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> To: rd-usa >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read >> >> >> >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem >> to fit >> the >> label of fanaticism. >> >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: >> >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make >> K-rations >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of >> war. >> The >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of >> Medicine. >> The >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been >> reviewed >> >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti >> mation of >> how >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. >> >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That >> is a >> simple >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was >> changed in 1997 >> and >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been >> expanding >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " >> >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice >> that >> calcium >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak >> bodies >> over >> time. >> >> Vajda, R.D. >> www.GingerJens.com >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To: rd-usa >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM >> Subject: Recommended article, please read >> >> Check out this great article: >> >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html >> >> It's really interesting. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I always have done yoga since it became popular in the 1960s:) I am dating myself...lol. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Vajda wrote: > It is sad how much time babies spend in those car seats - weight > bearing > exercise is what rolling, crawling and getting in toddler trouble is > all about. > > I have been reading about the importance of weight bearing exercise. > Perfect > health without that will still eventually lead to reduced bone > mineralization. A > friend who has been successful in her ten year osteoperosis battle > (no meds yet) > swears by weight bearing exercise. She walks, jogs, and takes care > of a couple > horses. Based on her research that type of exercise helps the rest > of the bones > more than the spine. She said that for the vertebrae to have the > positive effect > that the inverted yoga poses are the only thing she's found research > showing > bone remineralization benefits in the spine itself. > > The inverted yoga poses are also supposed to benefit the thyroid. I > need to roll > out my abandoned yoga mat and abandon this chair instead. > > Does anyone have any links about soda or phosphorus and bones? I > have thought > that is probably part of the problem but I haven't searched it > specifically. > > Protein load would increase renal load and magnesium losses. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.Gingerjens.com > > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 12:17:41 PM > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast > majority of > Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is a > good > example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual > nutrients. > For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated > with increased > > risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. > Both have > changed in the past few decades (for the worse). > > Holly > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem > to fit the > label of fanaticism. > > From my current version of my D/calcium paper: > > " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make K > -rations > that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of > war. The > original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of > Medicine. The > calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been > reviewed > they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an estima > tion of how > much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. > > Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That > is a simple > question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was changed > in 1997 and > since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been > expanding > quicker than our budgets or belts. " > > How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice > that calcium > supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak > bodies over > time. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.GingerJens.com > > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM > Subject: Recommended article, please read > > Check out this great article: > > http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html > > It's really interesting. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Good point Digna :-) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Digna Cassens wrote: > > > How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential > customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has > to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Weaver > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM > > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what > is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to > me by another doc! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto: > nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto: > hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast > >> majority > >> of > >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is > >> a good > >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual > >> nutrients. > >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated > >> with > >> increased > >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. > >> Both have > >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). > >> > >> Holly > >> ---------- > >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > >> > >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto: > jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > > >> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM > >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> > >> > >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem > >> to fit > >> the > >> label of fanaticism. > >> > >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: > >> > >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make > >> K-rations > >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of > >> war. > >> The > >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of > >> Medicine. > >> The > >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been > >> reviewed > >> > >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti > >> mation of > >> how > >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. > >> > >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That > >> is a > >> simple > >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was > >> changed in 1997 > >> and > >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been > >> expanding > >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " > >> > >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice > >> that > >> calcium > >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak > >> bodies > >> over > >> time. > >> > >> Vajda, R.D. > >> www.GingerJens.com > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto: > v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM > >> Subject: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> Check out this great article: > >> > >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html > >> > >> It's really interesting. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Good point Digna :-) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Digna Cassens wrote: > > > How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential > customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has > to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Weaver > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM > > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what > is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to > me by another doc! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto: > nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto: > hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast > >> majority > >> of > >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is > >> a good > >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual > >> nutrients. > >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated > >> with > >> increased > >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. > >> Both have > >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). > >> > >> Holly > >> ---------- > >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > >> > >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto: > jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > > >> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM > >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> > >> > >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem > >> to fit > >> the > >> label of fanaticism. > >> > >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: > >> > >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make > >> K-rations > >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of > >> war. > >> The > >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of > >> Medicine. > >> The > >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been > >> reviewed > >> > >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti > >> mation of > >> how > >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. > >> > >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That > >> is a > >> simple > >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was > >> changed in 1997 > >> and > >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been > >> expanding > >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " > >> > >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice > >> that > >> calcium > >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak > >> bodies > >> over > >> time. > >> > >> Vajda, R.D. > >> www.GingerJens.com > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto: > v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM > >> Subject: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> Check out this great article: > >> > >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html > >> > >> It's really interesting. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Good point Digna :-) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Digna Cassens wrote: > > > How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential > customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has > to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Weaver > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM > > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what > is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to > me by another doc! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto: > nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto: > hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast > >> majority > >> of > >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is > >> a good > >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual > >> nutrients. > >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated > >> with > >> increased > >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. > >> Both have > >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). > >> > >> Holly > >> ---------- > >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > >> > >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto: > jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > > >> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM > >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> > >> > >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem > >> to fit > >> the > >> label of fanaticism. > >> > >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: > >> > >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make > >> K-rations > >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of > >> war. > >> The > >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of > >> Medicine. > >> The > >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been > >> reviewed > >> > >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti > >> mation of > >> how > >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. > >> > >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That > >> is a > >> simple > >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was > >> changed in 1997 > >> and > >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been > >> expanding > >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " > >> > >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice > >> that > >> calcium > >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak > >> bodies > >> over > >> time. > >> > >> Vajda, R.D. > >> www.GingerJens.com > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto: > v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM > >> Subject: Recommended article, please read > >> > >> Check out this great article: > >> > >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html > >> > >> It's really interesting. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Weaver Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to me by another doc! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto:hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast >> majority >> of >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is >> a good >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual >> nutrients. >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated >> with >> increased >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. >> Both have >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). >> >> Holly >> ---------- >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV >> >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto:jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > >> >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read >> >> >> >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem >> to fit >> the >> label of fanaticism. >> >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: >> >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make >> K-rations >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of >> war. >> The >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of >> Medicine. >> The >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been >> reviewed >> >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti >> mation of >> how >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. >> >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That >> is a >> simple >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was >> changed in 1997 >> and >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been >> expanding >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " >> >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice >> that >> calcium >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak >> bodies >> over >> time. >> >> Vajda, R.D. >> www.GingerJens.com >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto:v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM >> Subject: Recommended article, please read >> >> Check out this great article: >> >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html >> >> It's really interesting. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Weaver Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to me by another doc! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto:hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast >> majority >> of >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is >> a good >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual >> nutrients. >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated >> with >> increased >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. >> Both have >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). >> >> Holly >> ---------- >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV >> >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto:jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > >> >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read >> >> >> >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem >> to fit >> the >> label of fanaticism. >> >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: >> >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make >> K-rations >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of >> war. >> The >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of >> Medicine. >> The >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been >> reviewed >> >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti >> mation of >> how >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. >> >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That >> is a >> simple >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was >> changed in 1997 >> and >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been >> expanding >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " >> >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice >> that >> calcium >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak >> bodies >> over >> time. >> >> Vajda, R.D. >> www.GingerJens.com >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto:v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM >> Subject: Recommended article, please read >> >> Check out this great article: >> >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html >> >> It's really interesting. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 How else will we know what’s out there? What our clients or potential customers hear and believe? I always want to know what the competition has to say. It’s like war, and that’s why there are spies. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Weaver Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:38 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read , I agree, but I read some of his articles because this is what is going out on Twitter! He has a following on FB and this was sent to me by another doc! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ortiz <nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > wrote: > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:17 PM, hl brewer <hlbrewer@... <mailto:hlbrewer%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> We cannot blame a health problem on dietary guidelines if the vast >> majority >> of >> Americans don't even follow those recommendations. Bone health is >> a good >> example - it's far more complicated than just one or two individual >> nutrients. >> For example, soda intake & high protein in the diet is associated >> with >> increased >> risk for osteoporosis. Along with decreased weight bearing exercise. >> Both have >> changed in the past few decades (for the worse). >> >> Holly >> ---------- >> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE >> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator >> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV >> >> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com >> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX >> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vajda <jennyvajda@... <mailto:jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> > >> >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:44:35 AM >> Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read >> >> >> >> Faith in a system that isn't providing desirable results does seem >> to fit >> the >> label of fanaticism. >> >> From my current version of my D/calcium paper: >> >> " Our nutrient guidelines were developed in the 1940’s to help make >> K-rations >> that could keep our soldiers strong and healthy under conditions of >> war. >> The >> original work has been reviewed and modified by the Institute of >> Medicine. >> The >> calcium guidelines were increased in 1997 and while they have been >> reviewed >> >> they haven’t been changed since. The increase was based on an esti >> mation of >> how >> much calcium might be needed for better bone absorption. >> >> Do we have stronger bones now as a nation then we did in 1996? That >> is a >> simple >> question with a simple answer – no. Our nation’s diet was >> changed in 1997 >> and >> since then chronic illness, obesity and osteoporosis rates have been >> expanding >> quicker than our budgets or belts. " >> >> How many bone spurs have to be surgically removed before we notice >> that >> calcium >> supplements aren't building strong bones - they are building weak >> bodies >> over >> time. >> >> Vajda, R.D. >> www.GingerJens.com >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Weaver <v.weaverrd@... <mailto:v.weaverrd%40gmail.com> > >> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 11:03:31 AM >> Subject: Recommended article, please read >> >> Check out this great article: >> >> http://www.NaturalNews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html >> >> It's really interesting. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " - ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were clueless! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > - ne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were clueless! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > - ne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 That’s too bad. I wonder if this is a regional, state or location problem. Since I left my employment and started my own practice/business, I found that there are many docs wanting RDs to be in their clinics/offices to provide nutrition consults. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Weaver Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:41 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were clueless! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > - ne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 That’s too bad. I wonder if this is a regional, state or location problem. Since I left my employment and started my own practice/business, I found that there are many docs wanting RDs to be in their clinics/offices to provide nutrition consults. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Weaver Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:41 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were clueless! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > wrote: > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > - ne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 It is national and if most primary care had RDs in their office, there would be a shortage of RDs! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:08 AM, " Digna Cassens " wrote: > That’s too bad. I wonder if this is a regional, state or location pr > oblem. Since I left my employment and started my own practice/busine > ss, I found that there are many docs wanting RDs to be in their clin > ics/offices to provide nutrition consults. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On > Behalf Of Weaver > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:41 PM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that > they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and > tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want > to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite > suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. > One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition > would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD > never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible > and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ > failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were > clueless! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > > - ne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 It is national and if most primary care had RDs in their office, there would be a shortage of RDs! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:08 AM, " Digna Cassens " wrote: > That’s too bad. I wonder if this is a regional, state or location pr > oblem. Since I left my employment and started my own practice/busine > ss, I found that there are many docs wanting RDs to be in their clin > ics/offices to provide nutrition consults. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On > Behalf Of Weaver > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:41 PM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Recommended article, please read > > Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that > they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and > tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want > to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite > suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. > One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition > would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD > never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible > and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ > failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were > clueless! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > > - ne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 There already is a shortage of RDs at least around here. Marquette, MI Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Recommended article, please read > > Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that > they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and > tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want > to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite > suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. > One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition > would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD > never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible > and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ > failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were > clueless! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > > - ne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 There already is a shortage of RDs at least around here. Marquette, MI Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Recommended article, please read > > Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that > they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and > tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not want > to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite > suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about nutrition. > One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition > would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD > never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked terrible > and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi organ > failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were > clueless! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > > - ne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Good, then your salaries shall go up! We have too many RDs in Atlanta but there is a shortage in most rural areas where most RDs do not want to reside. Sent from my iPhone > There already is a shortage of RDs at least around here. > Marquette, MI > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > Re: Recommended article, please read > > > > Sometimes it feels like some MDs are our enemies. I have found that > > they want to give the patient any Rx for the new weight loss fad and > > tell them to eat 500cal:( Some docs just say that patients do not > want > > to see a RD. Patients want hormone injections and appetite > > suppressants! So many docs do not want to even think about > nutrition. > > One client called me wanting a consult, but then thought nutrition > > would not really help since his doctor and his sister who is a MD > > never told him about nutrition. On his first visit, he looked > terrible > > and malnourished. A week later he is in the hospital with multi > organ > > failure, anemia and bed sores! His nurse care taker and two MDs were > > clueless! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:45 PM, ne <fivestar@... > > <mailto:fivestar%40nutritionucanlivewith.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I refuse to read anything from him...sorry > > > > > > Julius Caesar famously said: " Know thy enemy. " > > > - ne > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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