Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I agree that adrenal insufficiency is probably a better term. It can be primary ('s Disease) or secondary (more common). It can wax and wane or even flare at times typically during stress. NIH has some good info on it . . . . _http://endocrine.niddk.nih.gov/pubs/addison/addison.htm_ (http://endocrine.niddk.nih.gov/pubs/addison/addison.htm) In a message dated 1/31/2011 8:35:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Dineright4@... writes: If there's no such thing as Adrenal Fatigue, then why does ADA allow CPE for studying it? (see below) Granted, it's not well recognized, yet, and more accurately should be called Adrenal Insufficiency. , I'd recommend you refer her to an RD that is trained in treating Adrenal Fatigue. I know Bright. MS, RD, CCN, CLT, and respected colleague is one RD that works with clients with this condition. _dcbright@..._ (mailto:dcbright@...) So does Beth McCue. _www.SaratogaNutrition.com_ (http://www.SaratogaNutrition.com) This, from the DIFM-DPG website: The Institute for Functional Medicine presents AFMCP: Applying Functional Medicine in Clinical Practice February 21-25, 2011 Hyatt Regency Tampa, Florida _http://www.functionalmedicine.org/ifm_ecommerce/AFMCP.aspx_ (http://www.functionalmedicine.org/ifm_ecommerce/AFMCP.aspx) **DIFM Members receive a special price of $1800 for this program** Click on the Networks tab and " DIFM Discount Codes-AFMCP " for more information Applying Functional Medicine in Clinical Practice (AFMCP)® is not a typical medical meeting. Now in its 14th year, the five-day course has been rigorously designed, critically evaluated, and continuously refined by our outstanding core faculty, each of whom brings a diverse and subject-specific clinical expertise to the application of functional medicine. AFMCP is the cornerstone of IFM’s Functional Medicine Certification Program, providing an outstanding overview of functional medicine as well as practical applications to begin practicing functional medicine in daily practice. Educational Summary: AFMCP is a well orchestrated, comprehensive, patient-centered education program that helps you deepen your clinical understanding and practical application of the Functional Medicine Matrix Model™ as applied to: • GI dysfunction • Hormonal imbalance • Inflammation • Orthopedic issues • Immune dysfunction • Food allergies • Metabolic syndrome • Nutritional status • Adrenal & thyroid fatigue • Therapeutic relationship • Toxins & biotransformation Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) office and cell Fax: DineRight4@... " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. " ~Carl Bard Specialist in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and inflammatory conditions which are often triggered by adverse reactions to foods and chemicals. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist Training Course. In a message dated 1/31/2011 5:13:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa writes: 5d. Re: Adrenal gland fatigue Posted by: " Pam Charney " pcharney@... pcharney1 Date: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:39 am ((PST)) There is no such thing as adrenal fatigue. I'm also fairly certain that there is no current diagnostic category for " stressed out kidneys " . Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... > low zinc levels reduces appetite, B complex, vit C, and magnesium > are low in the > stressed. The stressed out kidney wastes sodium and salt cravings > can be normal > - just drink water too. > > I think the new salt guidelines are so restrictive. The kidneys will > waste > sodium in many conditions including adrenal fatigue. Anyone who > works out and > sweats much needs to replace the losses with increased electrolytes > and water. > 1500 mg sodium is the lowest, 1-5th% intake of average American's > intake. These > nutrient guidelines were set by volunteer members of the Institute > of Medicine - > noble -yes - but I didn't see a dietitian among their new members > for the last > two years. Our Dietary Guidelines shouldn't be about marketing or > supplements. > We need to be careful with math - numbers can be life and death in > the body and > dietitians know that. > > R Vajda, R.D. > (906) 458-8595 > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 1:07:12 PM > Subject: Re: Adrenal gland fatigue > > http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=adrenal+fatigue > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Sheerin > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Everyone.... > > > > I need your help! Last summer I worked (successfully) with a 22-yo > female > > client (normal BMI) who wanted to improve her body composition but > who was, > > in my opinion, a borderline eating disorder client. We met several > times > > with a lot of success and have a good relationship, but I have not > seen her > > since September. Her family lives out of state for the winter, so > I just > > received this email is from her mother, seeking further advice: > > > > " She (client) was having some major anxiety and depression > problems, in > > late summer, and a homeopathic Dr. was recommended to us. It turns > out she > > has adrenal gland fatigue. Basically her cortisol levels were not > anywhere > > they needed to be, at any time of the day. Long story short, she > is taking > > DHEA, Inositol, and a botanical liquid that he makes at his > office, and > > liquid Licort. She has been taking these things since mid October, > and has > > improved in some aspects, but is still struggling with all the > aspects of > > this malady. At one point, in October, she lost her appetite, was > nauseated > > part of the time, and lost about 12# before some relief from the > > supplements, etc., kicked in. She has not lost any more weight, > and is > > working out 3 or 4 days a week now. She actually did not work out > for about > > a month because she felt so poorly. > > I am just wondering if you have any nutritional advice to go along > with the > > supplements she is taking. " > > > > Any thoughts?? Homeopathy is not something I am well versed in. > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > J. Sheerin, RD > > Traverse City, MI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If there's no such thing as Adrenal Fatigue, then why does ADA allow CPE for studying it? (see below) Granted, it's not well recognized, yet, and more accurately should be called Adrenal Insufficiency. , I'd recommend you refer her to an RD that is trained in treating Adrenal Fatigue. I know Bright. MS, RD, CCN, CLT, and respected colleague is one RD that works with clients with this condition. _dcbright@..._ (mailto:dcbright@...) So does Beth McCue. _www.SaratogaNutrition.com_ (http://www.SaratogaNutrition.com) This, from the DIFM-DPG website: The Institute for Functional Medicine presents AFMCP: Applying Functional Medicine in Clinical Practice February 21-25, 2011 Hyatt Regency Tampa, Florida _http://www.functionalmedicine.org/ifm_ecommerce/AFMCP.aspx_ (http://www.functionalmedicine.org/ifm_ecommerce/AFMCP.aspx) **DIFM Members receive a special price of $1800 for this program** Click on the Networks tab and " DIFM Discount Codes-AFMCP " for more information Applying Functional Medicine in Clinical Practice (AFMCP)® is not a typical medical meeting. Now in its 14th year, the five-day course has been rigorously designed, critically evaluated, and continuously refined by our outstanding core faculty, each of whom brings a diverse and subject-specific clinical expertise to the application of functional medicine. AFMCP is the cornerstone of IFM’s Functional Medicine Certification Program, providing an outstanding overview of functional medicine as well as practical applications to begin practicing functional medicine in daily practice. Educational Summary: AFMCP is a well orchestrated, comprehensive, patient-centered education program that helps you deepen your clinical understanding and practical application of the Functional Medicine Matrix Model™ as applied to: • GI dysfunction • Hormonal imbalance • Inflammation • Orthopedic issues • Immune dysfunction • Food allergies • Metabolic syndrome • Nutritional status • Adrenal & thyroid fatigue • Therapeutic relationship • Toxins & biotransformation Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) office and cell Fax: DineRight4@... " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. " ~Carl Bard Specialist in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and inflammatory conditions which are often triggered by adverse reactions to foods and chemicals. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist Training Course. In a message dated 1/31/2011 5:13:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa writes: 5d. Re: Adrenal gland fatigue Posted by: " Pam Charney " pcharney@... pcharney1 Date: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:39 am ((PST)) There is no such thing as adrenal fatigue. I'm also fairly certain that there is no current diagnostic category for " stressed out kidneys " . Regards, pam Pam Charney pcharney@... > low zinc levels reduces appetite, B complex, vit C, and magnesium > are low in the > stressed. The stressed out kidney wastes sodium and salt cravings > can be normal > - just drink water too. > > I think the new salt guidelines are so restrictive. The kidneys will > waste > sodium in many conditions including adrenal fatigue. Anyone who > works out and > sweats much needs to replace the losses with increased electrolytes > and water. > 1500 mg sodium is the lowest, 1-5th% intake of average American's > intake. These > nutrient guidelines were set by volunteer members of the Institute > of Medicine - > noble -yes - but I didn't see a dietitian among their new members > for the last > two years. Our Dietary Guidelines shouldn't be about marketing or > supplements. > We need to be careful with math - numbers can be life and death in > the body and > dietitians know that. > > R Vajda, R.D. > > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 1:07:12 PM > Subject: Re: Adrenal gland fatigue > > http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?s=adrenal+fatigue > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Sheerin > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Everyone.... > > > > I need your help! Last summer I worked (successfully) with a 22-yo > female > > client (normal BMI) who wanted to improve her body composition but > who was, > > in my opinion, a borderline eating disorder client. We met several > times > > with a lot of success and have a good relationship, but I have not > seen her > > since September. Her family lives out of state for the winter, so > I just > > received this email is from her mother, seeking further advice: > > > > " She (client) was having some major anxiety and depression > problems, in > > late summer, and a homeopathic Dr. was recommended to us. It turns > out she > > has adrenal gland fatigue. Basically her cortisol levels were not > anywhere > > they needed to be, at any time of the day. Long story short, she > is taking > > DHEA, Inositol, and a botanical liquid that he makes at his > office, and > > liquid Licort. She has been taking these things since mid October, > and has > > improved in some aspects, but is still struggling with all the > aspects of > > this malady. At one point, in October, she lost her appetite, was > nauseated > > part of the time, and lost about 12# before some relief from the > > supplements, etc., kicked in. She has not lost any more weight, > and is > > working out 3 or 4 days a week now. She actually did not work out > for about > > a month because she felt so poorly. > > I am just wondering if you have any nutritional advice to go along > with the > > supplements she is taking. " > > > > Any thoughts?? Homeopathy is not something I am well versed in. > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > J. Sheerin, RD > > Traverse City, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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