Re: Measles and elderberry extract.

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Is beta-carotene a good form of vitamin A for adults? children?

Thanks,

Ken

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06/17/2002 02:51 PM

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Subject: [ ] Re: Measles and elderberry extract.

> Yes0and they should increase his vitamin A intake too.

If it was my kid I would give him 200,000 IU of A the first day,

100,000 IU for the next 4 or 5 days, then 25,000 IU a day from then

on.

I have done this for kids, and when I get sick I usually take half a

million to a million IU of A the first day, and a quarter million or

so per day for the rest of the week.

Since I'm a guy I don't have to worry that I will accidentally get

pregnant - the only reason to limit vitamin A intake to 10,000 IU per

day is that it can be harmful to fetuses, so women who are or might

become pregnant should not use this approach. Children, men, and

women who aren't of child bearing age or who have absolute certainty

they will not become pregnant may find it quite helpful. It is

extremely good at modulating the immune system to get rid of viral

infections. It is especially helpful at correcting the immune

imbalances that mercury often causes.

Andy . . . .. . . .

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[Guest guest]

measles is 3 days coming usually with fever 3 days with the rash and 3 days

going. What he has is probably atypical measles from the vaccine. He needs

vit A and Vit c. Dr will in most occasions NOT ackknowledge this as we all

know. Hope he is well soon

AMY

MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES

Chelsea 9

Carrigian 5

4

Chaela Noelle 15 mo

from the mouth of a 4 yr old

" your not fat mommy just squishy! " !!!! )

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HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett

bunch</A> <A HREF= " http://babiesonline.com/babies/c/chaela/ " >Chaela, born

12/22/2000</A>

[Guest guest]

I think elderberry extract is a great thing, but as measles can be

dangerous for brain he has to go to hospital and be treated for

measles with something stronger. I do not know how it is treated

(transfer factor?), but with this diagnosis they should find

something.

Margaret

> I have a friend whose 4-year old son regressed after receiving the

> MMR at 15 months old. Now they think that he actually has the

> measles. He had a fever and didn't want to eat much for about 3

> days. He also slept more than usual during that time. Then he

> started getting a rash--red spots. Today is the 4th day since he's

> been sick and he has a red spot rash on his face, chest, and

> spreading to arms and legs. Their doctor has them giving him

tylenol

> and benedryl. He also told them to give him an Alveeno bath. What

I

> want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

> someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

> measles in the GI tract?

>

[Guest guest]

Good doses of vit. A and Vit C. Also monolaurin.

[ ] Measles and elderberry extract.

I have a friend whose 4-year old son regressed after receiving the

MMR at 15 months old. Now they think that he actually has the

measles. He had a fever and didn't want to eat much for about 3

days. He also slept more than usual during that time. Then he

started getting a rash--red spots. Today is the 4th day since he's

been sick and he has a red spot rash on his face, chest, and

spreading to arms and legs. Their doctor has them giving him tylenol

and benedryl. He also told them to give him an Alveeno bath. What I

want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

measles in the GI tract?

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[Guest guest]

Yes0and they should increase his vitamin A intake too.

[ ] Measles and elderberry extract.

I have a friend whose 4-year old son regressed after receiving the

MMR at 15 months old. Now they think that he actually has the

measles. He had a fever and didn't want to eat much for about 3

days. He also slept more than usual during that time. Then he

started getting a rash--red spots. Today is the 4th day since he's

been sick and he has a red spot rash on his face, chest, and

spreading to arms and legs. Their doctor has them giving him tylenol

and benedryl. He also told them to give him an Alveeno bath. What I

want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

measles in the GI tract?

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[Guest guest]

Yes. It will help a lot.

Get a good brand like Sambucol liquid (which tastes good) and use a

tablespoon or two per day in divided doses. It is GOOOD stuff and he

will WANT to have it.

Also if you can find elderberry jam, use that.

Also find a good brand of echinacea and start him on that. The

elderberry has a more immediate effect (it is directly antiviral) and

the echinacea comes on strong in a few days and really solves things

(it is indirectly antiviral in that it builds up the body's NK cells

which go after viruses).

Andy . . . . ..

> What I

> want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

> someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

> measles in the GI tract?

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

> Yes0and they should increase his vitamin A intake too.

If it was my kid I would give him 200,000 IU of A the first day,

100,000 IU for the next 4 or 5 days, then 25,000 IU a day from then

on.

I have done this for kids, and when I get sick I usually take half a

million to a million IU of A the first day, and a quarter million or

so per day for the rest of the week.

Since I'm a guy I don't have to worry that I will accidentally get

pregnant - the only reason to limit vitamin A intake to 10,000 IU per

day is that it can be harmful to fetuses, so women who are or might

become pregnant should not use this approach. Children, men, and

women who aren't of child bearing age or who have absolute certainty

they will not become pregnant may find it quite helpful. It is

extremely good at modulating the immune system to get rid of viral

infections. It is especially helpful at correcting the immune

imbalances that mercury often causes.

Andy . . . .. . . .

[Guest guest]

Except if you are allergic to elderberries! Sorry, I am in allergy mode lately.

What ever happened to a protocol that was supposedly being developed by a

workgroup led by Dr. Wakefield (or at least I think he was leading the group as

I remember his e-mail message) to diagnose and treat Measles in the GI tract?

Does anyone have any info on this?

[ ] Re: Measles and elderberry extract.

Yes. It will help a lot.

Get a good brand like Sambucol liquid (which tastes good) and use a

tablespoon or two per day in divided doses. It is GOOOD stuff and he

will WANT to have it.

Also if you can find elderberry jam, use that.

Also find a good brand of echinacea and start him on that. The

elderberry has a more immediate effect (it is directly antiviral) and

the echinacea comes on strong in a few days and really solves things

(it is indirectly antiviral in that it builds up the body's NK cells

which go after viruses).

Andy . . . . ..

> What I

> want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

> someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

> measles in the GI tract?

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Yikes! Run from this doctor. Forget the Tylenol and Benedryl. How about a

virology work up to see what it is? Idiot pediatricians... They are mandated

to report Measles to the state public health department. How can they confirm

without testing?

[ ] Measles and elderberry extract.

I have a friend whose 4-year old son regressed after receiving the

MMR at 15 months old. Now they think that he actually has the

measles. He had a fever and didn't want to eat much for about 3

days. He also slept more than usual during that time. Then he

started getting a rash--red spots. Today is the 4th day since he's

been sick and he has a red spot rash on his face, chest, and

spreading to arms and legs. Their doctor has them giving him tylenol

and benedryl. He also told them to give him an Alveeno bath. What I

want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

measles in the GI tract?

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

> Is beta-carotene a good form of vitamin A for adults? children?

No. Beta carotene is NOT vitamin A. In small amounts, the body does

convert some to vitamin A. If you need large amounts of vitamin A,

beta carotene won't provide them no matter how much you take.

When I refer to vitamin A I mean retinol and retinoic acid, which ARE

vitamin A, not beta carotene.

Carotenes have other properties that make them not interchangeable

with vitamin A for most of the purposes we discuss them in relation to

on this list.

Andy . . .. . . . .

[Guest guest]

,

I have a very authentic Chinese herbal prescription. It is for measles. If

your friend wants it, please let her contact with me. My phone no is 630

859 4222.

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I have a friend whose 4-year old son regressed after receiving the

MMR at 15 months old. Now they think that he actually has the

measles. He had a fever and didn't want to eat much for about 3

days. He also slept more than usual during that time. Then he

started getting a rash--red spots. Today is the 4th day since he's

been sick and he has a red spot rash on his face, chest, and

spreading to arms and legs. Their doctor has them giving him tylenol

and benedryl. He also told them to give him an Alveeno bath. What I

want to know is do you think that elderberry extract would help

someone who actually has the measles--as opposed to a simmering

measles in the GI tract?

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[Guest guest]

I told my friend what you all had suggested. She ended up giving her

son 10,000 IU of vitamin A yesterday, along with elderberry extract

and today the rash is all gone! Thanks for the help.

[Guest guest]

Please tell her to continue vitamin A for at least ten days, and possibly

longer, as viruses can deplete vitamin A stores in the liver for up to three

months, leaving the door wise open for the next infection.

[ ] Re: Measles and elderberry extract.

I told my friend what you all had suggested. She ended up giving her

son 10,000 IU of vitamin A yesterday, along with elderberry extract

and today the rash is all gone! Thanks for the help.

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