RE: Re: Breast milk ice cream

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My father and all his siblings were raised by a wet-nurse. They loved her

dearly and the family honored her until her death. I remember her. She was

wonderful. My grandmother had 13 children and 2 brain tumors in between

some. She was a devout Catholic and this was all happening around 1915. I

ask, isn't there mother's milk available from some sort of bank? I think

I've read of this somewhere. And no, I'm not advocating mother's milk ice

cream.

Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Merav Levi

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:45 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: Re: Breast milk ice cream

Its called a wet-nurse. An occupation that was very prevalant many moons ago

(even mentioned in the bible).

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

A dietitian, not the food police.

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> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> From: nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com>

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:29:18 -0500

> Subject: Re: Re: Breast milk ice cream

>

> I should have done that when I finished breastfeeding my girls - could

have

> kept up that high calorie diet then by selling the breast milk :-)

>

> I know Salma Hayek breast fed a malnourished baby in Sierra Leone while

> touring and you thought she had committed a crime. I thought it was

amazing.

>

> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Vajda <jennyvajda@...

<mailto:jennyvajda%40sbcglobal.net> >wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > However most mammals don't make it that easy for others to access. And

> > getting

> > it to come out is actually a physical learned task. I imagine the animal

> > kingdom

> > has some examples of milk bandits but I think if mama wolf let the

jungle

> > boy in

> > with her litter it was out of kindness not thievery on jungle boy's

part.

> > ing occurs though. The cuckoo lays its eggs in other bird's nests

and

> > the

> > other birds take care of the baby. Neglectful parenting taken to a new

> > level

> > -cuckoo babies have been found with 150 different types of parent birds

-

> > (none

> > with breasts however - I got lost in the woods a moment).

> >

> > A wet nurse was a regular position with hiring guidelines to follow in

> > certain

> > times and places. I think it is a shame that the ice cream got shut down

so

> > fast

> > - expensive novelty is where things start - trendy and expensive and

then

> > everyone wants it. We may need martini glasses of human milk ice cream

to

> > forward the true purpose of the mammary equipment (is breast best or is

> > mammary

> > gland better - cleaner and more science-y?) On the other hand it could

be

> > early

> > days and just promoting the Ewww response - a backwards step.

> >

> > I have been thinking that as a medicinal super food sort of thing that

> > breast

> > milk might have potential and why shouldn't women have the option of a

> > different

> > form of productivity. However a society would need to question its

values

> > when

> > babies don't get the breast milk but billionaires do.

> >

> > I am for more human milk banks for babies, with 'donated' milk that is

> > screened

> > but some reimbursement incentive would probably be needed to support the

> > womens'

> > efforts. Formula really isn't as good, so how can we make " wet nurse " a

> > respected profession with skilled lactation specialists. Some might be

> > lactation

> > coaches that aren't just banking milk but might have some interactive

> > training

> > sessions to help mom and baby learn the skills to support their own

breast

> > feeding dyad.

> >

> > I don't think we know enough about communicable disease yet - human milk

> > ice

> > cream really was a health gamble. Why risk for novelty? Bungee jump or

> > share

> > bodily fluids - a toss up.

> >

> > Screened, trained, motivated workers supplying an essential service to

> > infant

> > and maternal development - that would be a novelty I would like to see.

> >

> > R Vajda, R.D.

> > www.GingerJens.com

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " Rowell, " <drowell@... <mailto:drowell%40mt.gov> >

> > To: " rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> "

<rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:40:29 AM

> > Subject: RE: Re: Breast milk ice cream

> >

> > You make a good point about how we think human milk from another human

is

> > gross,

> > but will slug down cow's milk or goats milk like it's perfectly OK.

Funny!

> > But

> > we aren't the only species who will drink other mammals' milk. We just

have

> >

> > thumbs and can get to it. Any mammal will scarf down another mammal's

milk,

> > if

> > they can get to it.

> >

> > W. Rowell, RD, LN

> > Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> > Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> > Certified LEAP Therapist

> >

> > From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf

Of

> > zfam5

> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:32 PM

> > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: Breast milk ice cream

> >

> > This is funny! And interesting how many would say " eww " . Not for

nothing,

> > but we

> > are the only species that continues to drink other animals " body

fluids " .

> > Granted it is tested and such. So I would pose the question, If we

tested,

> > regulated and bottled breast milk for consumption would we still think

it

> > was

> > gross? After all, Human Milk is the milk that got us through the first

> > 39,800

> > years of humanity. Just a thought from a breast feeding mom. And I hate

> > that so

> > many people think it is gross. I personally wouldn't drink my neighbors'

> > milk

> > but comparatively we drink how many different cow's, goats and sheep's

> > milk?

> >

> >

> > >

> > > A London council has confiscated supplies of breast milk ice cream

from a

> > > specialty parlor that launched the new variety in the British capital

> > last

> > > week on concerns that the frozen treat might spread viruses.

> > >

> > > Westminster Council said it had visited the Icecreamists restaurant in

> > > London's Covent Garden and removed all ice cream containing breast

milk

> > for

> > > testing after being contacted by members of the public and the Food

> > > Standards Agency.

> > >

> > > " Selling foodstuffs made from another person's bodily fluids can lead

to

> > > viruses being passed on and in this case, potentially hepatitis, " said

> >

> > > Connell, Westminster Council's Cabinet member for business.

> > >

> >

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