Re: Re: Tylenol/Ibuprofen Listmates, want your opinion...

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki

I had three C sections in 2 years 3 months, no pain during but plenty

afterwards LOL, the only thing that helped was Diclofenic (called Voltarol in

UK) - these were suppositories, I only had 2 x 18 hours apart, worked

wonderfully.

HTH

Mandi in UK

> I've had two episiotomy so far (I've have two

> children) and each time I needed something for the

> pain. I tried to not take any but it was too painful.

> If I don't need it then I just won't take it but if I

> do need something then I'll be prepared. The first

> time I took tylenol with codine because it hurt so

> much. I only needed it for two days but I needed it.

> Vicky

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[Guest guest]

I've had two episiotomy so far (I've have two

children) and each time I needed something for the

pain. I tried to not take any but it was too painful.

If I don't need it then I just won't take it but if I

do need something then I'll be prepared. The first

time I took tylenol with codine because it hurt so

much. I only needed it for two days but I needed it.

Vicky

--- merrywbee <maryandphilip@...> wrote:

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> > this post intrigues. why will u have pain after

> birth? here the

> pain comes during birth.

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> Are you asking this for real? What do you mean why

> will you have

> pain after birth? Perhaps if you had an episiotomy,

> or if you

> sustained a large vaginal tear? Or pain happens if

> you had a vaginal

> hematoma...

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[Guest guest]

hmm

i had 2 c-section 1 episiotomy. did not take things for pain because of breast

feeding. used relaxation to ride through it a bit. c-section was hard though.

but like athlete there is a point where u go past pain. or maybe autism makes

that different because u used to pain.

Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>Hi Vicki

>I had three C sections in 2 years 3 months, no pain during but plenty

>afterwards LOL, the only thing that helped was Diclofenic (called Voltarol in

>UK) - these were suppositories, I only had 2 x 18 hours apart, worked

>wonderfully.

>HTH

>Mandi in UK

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>> I've had two episiotomy so far (I've have two

>> children) and each time I needed something for the

>> pain. I tried to not take any but it was too painful.

>> If I don't need it then I just won't take it but if I

>> do need something then I'll be prepared. The first

>> time I took tylenol with codine because it hurt so

>> much. I only needed it for two days but I needed it.

>> Vicky

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[Guest guest]

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>Are you asking this for real?  What do you mean why will you have

>pain after birth?  Perhaps if you had an episiotomy, or if you

>sustained a large vaginal tear?  Or pain happens if you had a vaginal

>hematoma...

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>W

surprise is that people are anticipating pain after birth when it is not normal.

normal is to give birth and get on about business. have had 1 normal birth and

there was not really pain afterwards. muscle stiffness. nothing a soak in hot

bath with epsom salts did not fix.

wondering why questions are not ok in this forum if they are from me?

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In a message dated 7/7/2002 2:49:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gprobertson@... writes:

> hmm

> i had 2 c-section 1 episiotomy. did not take things for pain because of

> breast feeding. used relaxation to ride through it a bit. c-section was

> hard though. but like athlete there is a point where u go past pain. or

> maybe autism makes that different because u used to pain.

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I'm, sorry, but isn't one given morphine during and after a c-section? It is

an operation, most of the mothers I've known (no make that all of them) have

had morphine. Morphine lasts in the body quite a while. I'm sorry I don't

know how to respond to the autism comment.

[Guest guest]

yes you do get anaeasthetic unless you have time to choose acupunture. I didnt

have time for them to get the acupucturist. . and then you need something for

the pain in the first few hours but you cannot feed the baby. later people make

a choice. ceasarian is not usually anticipated birth though. so if her answer

was that she has problems that require ceasarian, then there is no need for

hostility, just an answer. this scenario was not indicated in question, so I

was interested.BOBVALSEAN@... wrote:

>In a message dated 7/7/2002 2:49:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>gprobertson@... writes:

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>> hmm

>> i had 2 c-section 1 episiotomy.  did not take things for pain because of

>> breast feeding.  used relaxation to ride through it a bit.  c-section was

>> hard though. but like athlete there is a point where u go past pain.  or

>> maybe autism makes that different because u used to pain.

>>

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>I'm, sorry, but isn't one given morphine during and after a c-section?  It is

>an operation, most of the mothers I've known (no make that all of them) have

>had morphine.  Morphine lasts in the body quite a while.  I'm sorry I don't

>know how to respond to the autism comment.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/7/2002 10:48:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gprobertson@... writes:

> so if her answer was that she has problems that require ceasarian, then

> there is no need for hostility, just an answer.

Actually, you are right, there is no need for hostility, if I came across

that way I do apologize. However, I do feel the need to explain my original

reaction. When the question was first posed, your response was that you did

not understand why anyone would need pain medication after birth. As

everyone's birth experience is different, I honestly couldn't reconcile how

you would come to that conclusion.

Having said that, I honestly did not mean to offend you in any way.

[Guest guest]

At 09:24 AM 7/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>When the question was first posed, your response was that you did

> >not understand why anyone would need pain medication after birth.

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>nope. wanted to know why pain was being anticipated. often i hear ppl

>raving how bad birth was and they build each other up into frenzy of pain

>anticipation. i had one natural birth and that was not nearly as bad as

>going to the dentist. feel that a lot of problems caused by ppl making

>others upset before they even start. however, birth plan makes good sense

>in case things do go wrong. would have accepted that happily.

Well, yes, we do have a culture that builds up a lot of fear about

birth. And, if you have a natural birth and you don't rip, tear, get skid

marks (they can hurt, too), injure your tail bone or have problems breast

feeding, then maybe there will not be a need for postpartum pain relief. I

had natural childbirth and I wanted to walk home the five blocks to my

apartment after my delivery. It was a free standing birth center so we had

to leave within 12 hours of giving birth, but it was a beautiful day

outside and I felt great. But I am on the spectrum, and so my body does

react differently to pain than other people. Also, the skid marks I had

from the birth necessitated my using a peri bottle every time I urinated

for several weeks after giving birth - major owie. I can only imagine the

pain women who have had a tear or an episiotomy may go through.

Avril

[Guest guest]

Avril,

What are skid marks?

Celia

(who was unconscious due to emergency caesarian)

Re: [ ] RE: Tylenol/Ibuprofen Listmates, want your

opinion...

> At 09:24 AM 7/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:

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> >When the question was first posed, your response was that you did

> > >not understand why anyone would need pain medication after birth.

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> >nope. wanted to know why pain was being anticipated. often i hear ppl

> >raving how bad birth was and they build each other up into frenzy of pain

> >anticipation. i had one natural birth and that was not nearly as bad as

> >going to the dentist. feel that a lot of problems caused by ppl making

> >others upset before they even start. however, birth plan makes good

sense

> >in case things do go wrong. would have accepted that happily.

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> Well, yes, we do have a culture that builds up a lot of fear about

> birth. And, if you have a natural birth and you don't rip, tear, get skid

> marks (they can hurt, too), injure your tail bone or have problems breast

> feeding, then maybe there will not be a need for postpartum pain relief.

I

> had natural childbirth and I wanted to walk home the five blocks to my

> apartment after my delivery. It was a free standing birth center so we

had

> to leave within 12 hours of giving birth, but it was a beautiful day

> outside and I felt great. But I am on the spectrum, and so my body does

> react differently to pain than other people. Also, the skid marks I had

> from the birth necessitated my using a peri bottle every time I urinated

> for several weeks after giving birth - major owie. I can only imagine the

> pain women who have had a tear or an episiotomy may go through.

>

> Avril

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[Guest guest]

At 12:57 AM 7/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:

>Avril,

>What are skid marks?

>Celia

>(who was unconscious due to emergency caesarian)

From Gentle Birth Alternatives:

>Think of it this way -- you know what happens when you put your arm

>through the sleeve of a " wind-breaker " too quickly, without holding on the

>end of the sleeve? You push the lining out ahead of your hand. This is

>what can happen with your baby's head as it passes through the birth

>canal. A weak kegel muscles lets the vaginal wall sag ahead of the baby.

>This can lead to internal tears or " skid marks. " A strong kegel muscle

>pulls the vaginal walls taught and lets the baby " slide " through.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/8978/exercise1.htm

I always believed that the skid marks were like an abrasion. I couldn't

see down there but that's what it felt like. But my looking on the net

indicates that it's more an internal thing. Sure fooled me.

Avril

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> nope. wanted to know why pain was being anticipated. often i hear ppl

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With all due respect this was what I responded to:

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In a message dated 7/7/2002 10:12:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gprobertson@... writes:

> this post intrigues. why will u have pain after birth? here the pain comes

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Again, I repeat not everyone's birth experience is the same just as not every

autistic child is not the same.