Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hello Violaine,We are glad you have found us. Please be assured that you can be helped here.Your case sounds complicated so I'm going to leave it to Cath to answer when she is able too.You are not alone, alot of what you are feeling, the shaking hands , the crying it is from the drugs, please know it is them, and not anything to do with you.Take time to read through all the files on the group and do ask anything you are unsure of. Hang on in there. With Love Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself. My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7 years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse in my childhood. During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my trouble. Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am crying and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to make my life end... Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no psychiatrical following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a therapy. But I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire region ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's too late... It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November to cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a nightmare would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have forgotten Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping so strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead ! One day I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened to me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into psychiatric emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I would have died. Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg to 3 mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually they are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are shaking, a simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone at night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today... And I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible, and I can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting chronical pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of my drugs, or probably both ? Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor. I will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as an addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible effects of Amitriptylin ? I need help, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hello Violaine,We are glad you have found us. Please be assured that you can be helped here.Your case sounds complicated so I'm going to leave it to Cath to answer when she is able too.You are not alone, alot of what you are feeling, the shaking hands , the crying it is from the drugs, please know it is them, and not anything to do with you.Take time to read through all the files on the group and do ask anything you are unsure of. Hang on in there. With Love Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself. My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7 years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse in my childhood. During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my trouble. Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am crying and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to make my life end... Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no psychiatrical following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a therapy. But I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire region ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's too late... It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November to cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a nightmare would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have forgotten Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping so strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead ! One day I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened to me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into psychiatric emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I would have died. Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg to 3 mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually they are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are shaking, a simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone at night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today... And I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible, and I can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting chronical pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of my drugs, or probably both ? Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor. I will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as an addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible effects of Amitriptylin ? I need help, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hello Violaine,We are glad you have found us. Please be assured that you can be helped here.Your case sounds complicated so I'm going to leave it to Cath to answer when she is able too.You are not alone, alot of what you are feeling, the shaking hands , the crying it is from the drugs, please know it is them, and not anything to do with you.Take time to read through all the files on the group and do ask anything you are unsure of. Hang on in there. With Love Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself. My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7 years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse in my childhood. During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my trouble. Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am crying and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to make my life end... Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no psychiatrical following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a therapy. But I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire region ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's too late... It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November to cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a nightmare would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have forgotten Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping so strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead ! One day I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened to me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into psychiatric emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I would have died. Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg to 3 mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually they are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are shaking, a simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone at night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today... And I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible, and I can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting chronical pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of my drugs, or probably both ? Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor. I will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as an addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible effects of Amitriptylin ? I need help, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi Violaine, Welcome to the group. I hope you'll be feeling better very soon. Hang in there. Nance  Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself. My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7 years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse in my childhood. During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my trouble. Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am crying and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to make my life end... Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no psychiatrical following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a therapy. But I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire region ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's too late... It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November to cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a nightmare would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have forgotten Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping so strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead ! One day I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened to me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into psychiatric emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I would have died. Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg to 3 mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually they are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are shaking, a simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone at night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today... And I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible, and I can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting chronical pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of my drugs, or probably both ? Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor. I will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as an addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible effects of Amitriptylin ? I need help, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Bonjour Violaine,I am also very glad you found our group. I feel so badly for what you've endured so far. You are not alone. We are here for you. And your English is impressive! :-) And I am glad to be able to tell you that I got off my Paxil (paroxetine) successfully after being on it, and other antidepressants for 16 years total. I stopped taking it 2 1/2 years ago. I tapered off 40mg over 6 months, and I had some very rough times, and in hindsight, I should have gone more slowly. I had symptoms like you describe, but hadn't joined an online group until after I had finished tapering, so I didn't know any better. If I were you, I would go more SLOWLY. Taper in much smaller increments. I will let lead the way on this, but many suggest that we reduce by 10% at a time, wait to stabilize on that amount (2 weeks or longer), and then cut 10% of THAT dose. So, if you start at 20mg of Paroxetine, go to 18, then 16.2....etc. I don't know if Paroxetine is available in liquid, but if so, that would help you make smaller cuts. (Again, I wish I knew back then what I know now...) I also don't know what will suggest about getting off two drugs at once. I have heard it is best to only go off one at a time, but she will know best. It looks like Amytriptilin is a tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) which I don't understand why that was prescribed for migraines. I was also happy initially that the Paroxetine helped with my social phobias as well as depression, but in the end, once the drug " pooped out " on me, and I needed to get off it, things were much worse than when I started. I think you are doing the right thing getting off the drugs, and trying to work on things in life without the drugs numbing your mind. Où habitez-vous? Je suis allé à Champigny sur Marne en 1976, quand j'avais 16 ans! Mon français est si mauvais de nos jours! (iGoogle is amazing at helping me translate this!) Mais je tiens à dire que vous êtes fort et intelligent et vous pouvez descendre de votre drogues psychiatriques! Des milliers ont déjà fait! Avec des embrassades grande, Deb, qui vit dans le Massachusetts  Hello Violaine,We are glad you have found us.  Please be assured that you can be helped here.Your case sounds complicated so I'm going to leave it to Cath to answer when she is able too. You are not alone, alot of what you are feeling, the shaking hands , the crying it is from the drugs, please know it is them, and not anything to do with you.Take time to read through all the files on the group and do ask anything you are unsure of. Hang on in there. With Love  Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself. My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7 years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse in my childhood. During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my trouble. Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am crying and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to make my life end... Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no psychiatrical following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a therapy. But I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire region ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's too late... It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November to cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a nightmare would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have forgotten Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping so strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead ! One day I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened to me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into psychiatric emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I would have died. Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg to 3 mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually they are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are shaking, a simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone at night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today... And I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible, and I can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting chronical pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of my drugs, or probably both ? Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor. I will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as an addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible effects of Amitriptylin ? I need help, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hi Deborah, yes I have read what happened to . I am sorry for her and understand she can't answer quickly, but I suppose her last posting was mostly for my case. But for the moment I have decided to continue just amitriptylin withdrawal, and to stabilize my paroxetine dose for one month. Decrease from 20 mg to 15 mg in one month is quick, I know, but I feel much better than before and I am very proud to resist to temptation. I practice meditation every day and I strongly believe in my spirit's power. Of course today it's harder to meditate because of withdrawal effects, but I need to find a new energy and to find new methods to meditate during several hours per day like before to suppress some mood effects.Yes, my email is about Skye terriers, the love of my life ! They are very sensitive and sweet and help me when I am feeling sick. They should be more popular. I've got a Chinchilla cat too. Before, I have been a cairn terrier breeder. Cairns are the incarnation of joy !If one day you are travelling to Champagne, at Reims visit just the touristic extreme center of the town. Today Reims is full of ghettos and it is a dangerous town. I live myself in one of these ghettos. Epernay, 30 km south of Reims, is a lovely little town with beautiful landscapes and I advice you to travel there one day. There are a lot of champagne manufacturers there.Hoping you are not living in one of those very "snowy" states of US, I wish you a very good day !Violaine> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself.> > > > My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7> > > > years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse> > in my> > > > childhood.> > > >> > > > During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one> > > > year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my> > trouble.> > > > Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I> > > > forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am> > crying> > > > and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to> > make> > > > my life end...> > > >> > > > Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no> > psychiatrical> > > > following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a> > therapy. But> > > > I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire> > region> > > > ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's> > too> > > > late...> > > >> > > > It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November> > to> > > > cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with> > > > Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a> > nightmare> > > > would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have> > forgotten> > > > Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping> > so> > > > strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead !> > One day> > > > I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened> > to> > > > me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into> > psychiatric> > > > emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I> > would> > > > have died.> > > >> > > > Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg> > to 3> > > > mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep> > > > normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually> > they> > > > are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are> > shaking, a> > > > simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone> > at> > > > night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today...> > And> > > > I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible,> > and I> > > > can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting> > chronical> > > > pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of> > my> > > > drugs, or probably both ?> > > >> > > > Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor.> > I> > > > will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as> > an> > > > addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible> > effects of> > > > Amitriptylin ?> > > > I need help, please...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hi Deborah, yes I have read what happened to . I am sorry for her and understand she can't answer quickly, but I suppose her last posting was mostly for my case. But for the moment I have decided to continue just amitriptylin withdrawal, and to stabilize my paroxetine dose for one month. Decrease from 20 mg to 15 mg in one month is quick, I know, but I feel much better than before and I am very proud to resist to temptation. I practice meditation every day and I strongly believe in my spirit's power. Of course today it's harder to meditate because of withdrawal effects, but I need to find a new energy and to find new methods to meditate during several hours per day like before to suppress some mood effects.Yes, my email is about Skye terriers, the love of my life ! They are very sensitive and sweet and help me when I am feeling sick. They should be more popular. I've got a Chinchilla cat too. Before, I have been a cairn terrier breeder. Cairns are the incarnation of joy !If one day you are travelling to Champagne, at Reims visit just the touristic extreme center of the town. Today Reims is full of ghettos and it is a dangerous town. I live myself in one of these ghettos. Epernay, 30 km south of Reims, is a lovely little town with beautiful landscapes and I advice you to travel there one day. There are a lot of champagne manufacturers there.Hoping you are not living in one of those very "snowy" states of US, I wish you a very good day !Violaine> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello to all. I am French and I'm posting to present myself.> > > > My name is Violaine (girl), I am 26 and I am taking Paroxetine since 7> > > > years to cure my social anxiety disorder consecutive to parental abuse> > in my> > > > childhood.> > > >> > > > During these 7 years, nothing bad, my social anxiety disappeared in one> > > > year and I must say this drug has permitted for me to be free of my> > trouble.> > > > Yes, nothing bad, excepted I often forget to take my drugs and when I> > > > forget... It's a terrible punishment... My hands are shaking, I am> > crying> > > > and trying to suicide ! But usually I am not depressive to the point to> > make> > > > my life end...> > > >> > > > Why my treatment continued during 7 years ? Because I had no> > psychiatrical> > > > following and my doctor refused I stop this drug until I have a> > therapy. But> > > > I hate the only psychiatrist who has the adapted therapy in my entire> > region> > > > ! Anyway I should not have listened to him and have stopped until it's> > too> > > > late...> > > >> > > > It has become very, very late when my neurologist decided last November> > to> > > > cure my migraines giving me... Amytriptilin. Yes, Amytriptilin with> > > > Paroxetin. I believed it was just an antalgic, I didn't realized a> > nightmare> > > > would begin. I began to get the same symptoms than when I have> > forgotten> > > > Paroxetin, but worse. I was not able to walk normally. I was sleeping> > so> > > > strongly nobody could awake me and everybody was afraid I was dead !> > One day> > > > I even made diarrhea when sleeping ! It was first time that it happened> > to> > > > me since little childhood. Finally, one night I finished into> > psychiatric> > > > emergencies at hospital, because I knew if I were not gone there I> > would> > > > have died.> > > >> > > > Now, since January 3, I have managed to reduce Amitriptylin from 25 mg> > to 3> > > > mg per day, and Paroxetin from 20 mg to 15 mg. But now I can't sleep> > > > normally, I can't walk normally, my migraines are coming back (usually> > they> > > > are extremely strong and happen one day on 2), and my hands are> > shaking, a> > > > simple music is enough to make me cry like a baby, and when I am alone> > at> > > > night... Sometimes I would have loved so much to not be alive today...> > And> > > > I'm afraid my social anxiety comes back, my migraines are so horrible,> > and I> > > > can't sleep. I have taken 20 kilograms last months. I am getting> > chronical> > > > pancreatic disorders, is it because of my hemochromatosis, because of> > my> > > > drugs, or probably both ?> > > >> > > > Now I am unable to work and my hope to get a normal life again is poor.> > I> > > > will see an addictologist but in France Paroxetin is not considered as> > an> > > > addictive drug, and Amitriptylin, who has ever heard of terrible> > effects of> > > > Amitriptylin ?> > > > I need help, please...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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