Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Jamy, here is my numbers: Interesting that my renin is much higher than yours, but my aldosterone is a lot lower. Renin - 117 70-330 Aldosterone <1.0 7-30 Frannie Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? To All: After reviewing 3 different charts, it appears that my total intake was cut by 3/4 grain of Armour. The endo himself told me after the first test, before any changes that my thyroids looked pretty good. After 3 hours of shivering, 1 hour of crying, 2 hours to feed myself, 2 more hours of looking at numbers with total brain fog, a hot bath, I crippled upstairs and sent my endo an email: Part of it follows: Dear Dr. I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes. I am freezing cold, with shivers (temp 96.7) no appetite, crying-more depressed, severe joint and muscle pain, and constipation. Before I saw you, I was more active, getting out of the house for short errands, a beach walk, etc. I no longer feel the energy to do this. My gut is telling me that I am not and was not getting enough thyroid into my cells. My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. I feel like I am again begging for a doctor to listen to me and at least let me try what my gut instincts are telling me. I am about to the end of my rope. FrannieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yeah, your looks mid range. Like I said the only thing I notice on the Florinef is the smell of my urine not as strong. Did you say you are not taking any? Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? To All: After reviewing 3 different charts, it appears that my total intake was cut by 3/4 grain of Armour. The endo himself told me after the first test, before any changes that my thyroids looked pretty good. After 3 hours of shivering, 1 hour of crying, 2 hours to feed myself, 2 more hours of looking at numbers with total brain fog, a hot bath, I crippled upstairs and sent my endo an email: Part of it follows: Dear Dr. I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes. I am freezing cold, with shivers (temp 96.7) no appetite, crying-more depressed, severe joint and muscle pain, and constipation. Before I saw you, I was more active, getting out of the house for short errands, a beach walk, etc. I no longer feel the energy to do this. My gut is telling me that I am not and was not getting enough thyroid into my cells. My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. I feel like I am again begging for a doctor to listen to me and at least let me try what my gut instincts are telling me. I am about to the end of my rope. FrannieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yeah, your looks mid range. Like I said the only thing I notice on the Florinef is the smell of my urine not as strong. Did you say you are not taking any? Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? To All: After reviewing 3 different charts, it appears that my total intake was cut by 3/4 grain of Armour. The endo himself told me after the first test, before any changes that my thyroids looked pretty good. After 3 hours of shivering, 1 hour of crying, 2 hours to feed myself, 2 more hours of looking at numbers with total brain fog, a hot bath, I crippled upstairs and sent my endo an email: Part of it follows: Dear Dr. I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes. I am freezing cold, with shivers (temp 96.7) no appetite, crying-more depressed, severe joint and muscle pain, and constipation. Before I saw you, I was more active, getting out of the house for short errands, a beach walk, etc. I no longer feel the energy to do this. My gut is telling me that I am not and was not getting enough thyroid into my cells. My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. I feel like I am again begging for a doctor to listen to me and at least let me try what my gut instincts are telling me. I am about to the end of my rope. FrannieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 When my last DR discovered the low aldosterone, it was from a urine test not blood. That was 4 with a range of 6-44 Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? To All: After reviewing 3 different charts, it appears that my total intake was cut by 3/4 grain of Armour. The endo himself told me after the first test, before any changes that my thyroids looked pretty good. After 3 hours of shivering, 1 hour of crying, 2 hours to feed myself, 2 more hours of looking at numbers with total brain fog, a hot bath, I crippled upstairs and sent my endo an email: Part of it follows: Dear Dr. I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes. I am freezing cold, with shivers (temp 96.7) no appetite, crying-more depressed, severe joint and muscle pain, and constipation. Before I saw you, I was more active, getting out of the house for short errands, a beach walk, etc. I no longer feel the energy to do this. My gut is telling me that I am not and was not getting enough thyroid into my cells. My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. I feel like I am again begging for a doctor to listen to me and at least let me try what my gut instincts are telling me. I am about to the end of my rope. FrannieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 When my last DR discovered the low aldosterone, it was from a urine test not blood. That was 4 with a range of 6-44 Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? To All: After reviewing 3 different charts, it appears that my total intake was cut by 3/4 grain of Armour. The endo himself told me after the first test, before any changes that my thyroids looked pretty good. After 3 hours of shivering, 1 hour of crying, 2 hours to feed myself, 2 more hours of looking at numbers with total brain fog, a hot bath, I crippled upstairs and sent my endo an email: Part of it follows: Dear Dr. I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes. I am freezing cold, with shivers (temp 96.7) no appetite, crying-more depressed, severe joint and muscle pain, and constipation. Before I saw you, I was more active, getting out of the house for short errands, a beach walk, etc. I no longer feel the energy to do this. My gut is telling me that I am not and was not getting enough thyroid into my cells. My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. I feel like I am again begging for a doctor to listen to me and at least let me try what my gut instincts are telling me. I am about to the end of my rope. FrannieGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Probably the same issues. I have probably been treated by at least 8 different endo's or MD's without getting better. I have not been well since RAI and Synthroid.(Early 90's) Finally, got Armour. I needed a new doctor and thought his credentials looked good as far as overall hormone health I really did not think I would end up with all these dx. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Probably the same issues. I have probably been treated by at least 8 different endo's or MD's without getting better. I have not been well since RAI and Synthroid.(Early 90's) Finally, got Armour. I needed a new doctor and thought his credentials looked good as far as overall hormone health I really did not think I would end up with all these dx. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Probably the same issues. I have probably been treated by at least 8 different endo's or MD's without getting better. I have not been well since RAI and Synthroid.(Early 90's) Finally, got Armour. I needed a new doctor and thought his credentials looked good as far as overall hormone health I really did not think I would end up with all these dx. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I have to say the Armour helps some, but it has not been the great thing for me that everyone said it would be. hat was when I looked him up. That and the fact that even taking iron my ferritin was 20 and the DR I was seeing said that was good enough. Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yep your doc reeks. He doesn't understand. Try and get info from this site an print it out. Like how our TSH needs to be at it's lowest...our T3 needs to be high etc.... Try and persuade him. If you can't you may have to medicate yourself, or find a good doc. I am routing for you hun!! Take charge and make yourself well. Hugs..PattiSue 29:11 PS..What state are you in? I can possibly find you a doc that will do better by you in your state and a support group within your state that will be a wealth of info. My state has a great support group and I " ve learned so much and been steered into the right direction on many occassions. THis site also is a wonderful place to come to learn. Hugs again!! Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I need to read his Ferritin info asap. I e-mailed Kim. Hope it works. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I need to read his Ferritin info asap. I e-mailed Kim. Hope it works. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I need to read his Ferritin info asap. I e-mailed Kim. Hope it works. Frannie Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? You are worse because you are on far too low a dose. No matter how low your dose is, the pituitary gland knows that your body is getting thyroid hormones. Thus, it sends a message to your thyroid via the TSH to shut down further it's already low production of hormones. You become even more hypo than before!!!!! Your doc is AWFUL. He REEKS. Janie aka ThyroDiva > Dear Dr. > > I also want you to know that I am worse than when I started seeing you. I can only surmise that it is do to the med changes.....My current dosage is 30mg Armour 2xdaily and 50mcg Levoxyl. I have been at this level for since Nov. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Have you had your ferritin tested? Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Have you had your ferritin tested? Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Have you had your ferritin tested? Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I take magnesium citrate called Natural Calm and omega oil. I now have no problem. My ferritin is 20. Instead of the ferrous sulfate pills, go to the health food store and get a liquid called Floradix plus minerals. Take 3x a day. You will feel a BIG difference in how you feel. Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I take magnesium citrate called Natural Calm and omega oil. I now have no problem. My ferritin is 20. Instead of the ferrous sulfate pills, go to the health food store and get a liquid called Floradix plus minerals. Take 3x a day. You will feel a BIG difference in how you feel. Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I will get the Floridix. I currently take Mag Oxide (Colosan), 6 fish oil daily, have tried herbals, prunes, etc. to no avail. This constipation is a major issue for me. My hubby and take 1 magnesium and get big action, I take 4-6 and nothing happens????? Frannie Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Try the natural calm powder that you mix with hot water. If it works on me, it will work on ANYONE! LOL Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi Frannie, I just thought I would give you a different avenue to look into for your constipation. I've yet to take anything as good as Shaklee's supplements for constipation. IF it doesn't help you nothing will. It is called Herb Lax. If you'd like the info of someone to order it from I can give you that info. What I love about shaklee is...if you don't get results for any reason...to no reason....they give you 100% of your money back. I've yet to have anything that I've taken not work. Their Cor-Energy is wonderful too. Yes they are pricey...but you will find no cleaner supplements anywhere..and 100%back guarantee. Let mw know if you'd like more info. Hugs.>>PattiSue Re: Re: (Frannie) aising meds when it is cold-Iron ? I of Service. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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