Re: Should I hold off on klonopin cut again?(w/response)

[Guest guest]

** Kathy, re: response below. You're taking far too many things to

stabilize. You're yanking your chemistry all over the place. Your chances of

stabilizing are slim unless you discontinue all these things.

Regards,

Thank you for answering my post.

In rereading it I hope it was clear that I was asking if I should up dose to

where I was before I did the last cut. I was feeling better before I cut. The

issue is last time I cut too much 5% so I updosed. Waited to stabilize feeling

much better for a week at original 1.75 dose. Cut 1-2% (really hard to measure

in the vial such a small amount) and have been sick, depressed etc since as

mentioned in original post.

Your Questions:

Liquid klonopin is 0.5mg/ml suspension Rx by my psycho pharmacologist. 1.75 ml

and taper as directed.

OTC drugs:

Prelief for IC pain. 1 AM and 1 PM

Took Sine-Off for cold first 2 days of cut then stopped

Take 1 aspirn for headache every 3? days for severe headaches and knee pain

2 or 5 mg melatonin every 3? nights for a few hours of sleep

Chinese herbs as needed for immune support

Homeopathic supplement (klonopin) given by psycho pharmacologist

No other Rx drugs

No alcohol

No recreational drugs now or in past

So question remains do I updose and wait for a longer period of time before I

try cutting again? My brain feels " fried " after 3 months of c/t ambien and

Darvocet and 3 attempts at klonopin even at minimal cut. Does your brain ever

need time to hold between drug w/ds? After 3-4 months I amstill at my original

dose of klonopin..discouraging. I went thru heavy Lyme w/d for 6 months so I

certainly can handle this if go about correctly

Thank you,

Kathy Kilmartin

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

** Kathy, re: response below. You're taking far too many things to

stabilize. You're yanking your chemistry all over the place. Your chances of

stabilizing are slim unless you discontinue all these things.

Regards,

Thank you for answering my post.

In rereading it I hope it was clear that I was asking if I should up dose to

where I was before I did the last cut. I was feeling better before I cut. The

issue is last time I cut too much 5% so I updosed. Waited to stabilize feeling

much better for a week at original 1.75 dose. Cut 1-2% (really hard to measure

in the vial such a small amount) and have been sick, depressed etc since as

mentioned in original post.

Your Questions:

Liquid klonopin is 0.5mg/ml suspension Rx by my psycho pharmacologist. 1.75 ml

and taper as directed.

OTC drugs:

Prelief for IC pain. 1 AM and 1 PM

Took Sine-Off for cold first 2 days of cut then stopped

Take 1 aspirn for headache every 3? days for severe headaches and knee pain

2 or 5 mg melatonin every 3? nights for a few hours of sleep

Chinese herbs as needed for immune support

Homeopathic supplement (klonopin) given by psycho pharmacologist

No other Rx drugs

No alcohol

No recreational drugs now or in past

So question remains do I updose and wait for a longer period of time before I

try cutting again? My brain feels " fried " after 3 months of c/t ambien and

Darvocet and 3 attempts at klonopin even at minimal cut. Does your brain ever

need time to hold between drug w/ds? After 3-4 months I amstill at my original

dose of klonopin..discouraging. I went thru heavy Lyme w/d for 6 months so I

certainly can handle this if go about correctly

Thank you,

Kathy Kilmartin

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

** Kathy, re: response below. You're taking far too many things to

stabilize. You're yanking your chemistry all over the place. Your chances of

stabilizing are slim unless you discontinue all these things.

Regards,

Thank you for answering my post.

In rereading it I hope it was clear that I was asking if I should up dose to

where I was before I did the last cut. I was feeling better before I cut. The

issue is last time I cut too much 5% so I updosed. Waited to stabilize feeling

much better for a week at original 1.75 dose. Cut 1-2% (really hard to measure

in the vial such a small amount) and have been sick, depressed etc since as

mentioned in original post.

Your Questions:

Liquid klonopin is 0.5mg/ml suspension Rx by my psycho pharmacologist. 1.75 ml

and taper as directed.

OTC drugs:

Prelief for IC pain. 1 AM and 1 PM

Took Sine-Off for cold first 2 days of cut then stopped

Take 1 aspirn for headache every 3? days for severe headaches and knee pain

2 or 5 mg melatonin every 3? nights for a few hours of sleep

Chinese herbs as needed for immune support

Homeopathic supplement (klonopin) given by psycho pharmacologist

No other Rx drugs

No alcohol

No recreational drugs now or in past

So question remains do I updose and wait for a longer period of time before I

try cutting again? My brain feels " fried " after 3 months of c/t ambien and

Darvocet and 3 attempts at klonopin even at minimal cut. Does your brain ever

need time to hold between drug w/ds? After 3-4 months I amstill at my original

dose of klonopin..discouraging. I went thru heavy Lyme w/d for 6 months so I

certainly can handle this if go about correctly

Thank you,

Kathy Kilmartin

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

** Magnesium and fish oil would be great to take. They are native to your body

whereas all these other things aren't. --

Sorry , forgot to add I started on magnesium 2 days ago. Just went to

take my nightly dose and remembered he magnesium

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

** Magnesium and fish oil would be great to take. They are native to your body

whereas all these other things aren't. --

Sorry , forgot to add I started on magnesium 2 days ago. Just went to

take my nightly dose and remembered he magnesium

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

** Magnesium and fish oil would be great to take. They are native to your body

whereas all these other things aren't. --

Sorry , forgot to add I started on magnesium 2 days ago. Just went to

take my nightly dose and remembered he magnesium

>

> On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started taking

it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still in

hell

> 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> ***************************

> ,

> In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

>

> wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

>

> Ambien in January?

>

> Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

>

> Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

>

> Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

>

> more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

>

> Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

>

> Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

>

> Kathy>>

>

>

> ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

>

>

> You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

>

> Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will cut out these things. The Interstitial cystitis relief will be tough but will handle it. Once a month I get “flu-like” symptoms with severe migraines for the last 40 years so dealing with those is my toughest burden, worse than benzo w/d. Never found the cause of this hormone imbalance after never being sick in my life before that. ***Just as an FYI on the compounded klonopin from a compounding pharmacy. The first time I took it I told my dr. it made me queasy and didn’t like the taste. Hence I took both pills and liquid. My dr. called the pharmacist and got the medium the klonopin was in and it was basically sugar (in 2 forms) and all artificial “junk”. I did not find this out until 2 days ago when I saw him. I told him I don’t eat that way with all that junk in my food. Next time we try a liquid he found one that will make it in either an olive oil or almond oil medium. Stopped it that night, updosed and then suffered with24-48 hours of diarrhea and headache. Related or just my crappy immune system with a stomach flu. Just thought I would pass this on re: the compounding medium. Giving my body time to clean out and will try again next month. kathy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will cut out these things. The Interstitial cystitis relief will be tough but will handle it. Once a month I get “flu-like” symptoms with severe migraines for the last 40 years so dealing with those is my toughest burden, worse than benzo w/d. Never found the cause of this hormone imbalance after never being sick in my life before that. ***Just as an FYI on the compounded klonopin from a compounding pharmacy. The first time I took it I told my dr. it made me queasy and didn’t like the taste. Hence I took both pills and liquid. My dr. called the pharmacist and got the medium the klonopin was in and it was basically sugar (in 2 forms) and all artificial “junk”. I did not find this out until 2 days ago when I saw him. I told him I don’t eat that way with all that junk in my food. Next time we try a liquid he found one that will make it in either an olive oil or almond oil medium. Stopped it that night, updosed and then suffered with24-48 hours of diarrhea and headache. Related or just my crappy immune system with a stomach flu. Just thought I would pass this on re: the compounding medium. Giving my body time to clean out and will try again next month. kathy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will cut out these things. The Interstitial cystitis relief will be tough but will handle it. Once a month I get “flu-like” symptoms with severe migraines for the last 40 years so dealing with those is my toughest burden, worse than benzo w/d. Never found the cause of this hormone imbalance after never being sick in my life before that. ***Just as an FYI on the compounded klonopin from a compounding pharmacy. The first time I took it I told my dr. it made me queasy and didn’t like the taste. Hence I took both pills and liquid. My dr. called the pharmacist and got the medium the klonopin was in and it was basically sugar (in 2 forms) and all artificial “junk”. I did not find this out until 2 days ago when I saw him. I told him I don’t eat that way with all that junk in my food. Next time we try a liquid he found one that will make it in either an olive oil or almond oil medium. Stopped it that night, updosed and then suffered with24-48 hours of diarrhea and headache. Related or just my crappy immune system with a stomach flu. Just thought I would pass this on re: the compounding medium. Giving my body time to clean out and will try again next month. kathy

[Guest guest]

So I updosed back to my original 1.75 mgs klonopin (pills) on 4/4, cut out

occasional OTC pills and added a good fish oil magnesium. Still not stable and

getting worse. spent last 3 days in severe depression, hysterical crying, fibro

pain, exhaustion and nausea that has not stopped for months.

'I'm assuming updosing more is not an option?' How long does this take to

stabilize? Is this expected reacton from cutting some Prelief and aspirin? The

herbs from Tom Tam I had stopped a month ago.

Should this stabilize soon? I leave on vacation on Wednesday which was th

epoint of updosing and waiting to cut again after a break.

I know everyoneis different but hoping you can help.

Kathy>>

** Kathy, your problem is not all about Klonopin. Below you mention this:

" My brain feels " fried " after 3 months of c/t ambien and

Darvocet and 3 attempts at klonopin even at minimal cut... "

** This is all from a few drugs, not just one.

** No amount of adjusting Klonopin is going to compensate for dropping

Ambien and Darvocet so quickly. There are things to be done but it is too

complex and detailed to work with in email/on the group.

Regards,

> >

> > On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started

taking it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> > Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> > Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> > 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after 2

days

> > Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still

in hell

> > 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for nightly

dose

> > 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> > 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> > along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> > ***************************

> > ,

> > In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

> >

> > wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

> >

> > Ambien in January?

> >

> > Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

> >

> > Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and previous

cut attempts?

> >

> > Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

> >

> > more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

> >

> > Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

> >

> > Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been trying

to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

> >

> > Kathy>>

> >

> >

> > ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

> >

> >

> > You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't automatically

answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

> >

> > Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

> >

> > --

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Should I book a consult with you? Depression is lifting but want to handle this

all the best way from here on if there is more things I can do as you mention.

I did not updose. Still at 1.75 mg klonopin. I had planned to stay at this dose

for a few months but it appears you have other things I can be doing.

I will have limited access to computers after today (sunday) only an IPhone as

my computer has a virus and is being repaired.

Thank you

kathy >>

** Hi Kathy,

I think this would be the best route for you right now as long as you're

committed to it. There are people who do the consultation but have no intention

on acting on what they need to do.They expect to hear a magic bullet that will

be easy and quick to fix things. This doesn't exist. But there are things one

can do to minimize the damage being done and maximize the recovery process.

Like everything else, it is specific to a person's circumstances. There is no

one formula that is best for everyone.

The material needed for consultations is in the FILES section on the group

site. You may have to wait until your computer is fixed as there is a form of

several pages to fill out as part of preparing for your consultation. It gives

me a good picture of your situation. Of course, if you can, you could always go

to the library and use the computer there to fill out the form. Do whatever

works best for you.

Regards,

> > >

> > > On Klonopin for 8 years for facial neuralgia .5mgs 3x day then started

taking it all at night. Now splitting 2 x day.

> > > Jan. 11 stabilized on klonopin 1.75 mgs (split am and pm) after difficulty

cutting klonopin (too high cut plus on Darvocet)

> > > Darvocet and Ambien cold turkey Jan 6

> > > 3/1 Cut K 5% (1/4 pill of .5mg) to 1.66 from 1.75 . Severe symtoms after

2 days

> > > Returned to 1.75 mg to stabilize on 3/9. Now 3/ 14 still not stable. Still

in hell

> > > 3/27 stabilized for over a week and started compounded klonopin for

nightly dose

> > > 3/27 cut 1% .0175

> > > 4/4 very sick, no sleep, brain and body exhausted, ear and teeth pain

> > > along with knee ligament pain, headaches, anxiety

> > > ***************************

> > > ,

> > > In reviewing my history above could I ask you if you thought I should

> > >

> > > wait longer to cut my klonopin after doing the c/t on Darvocet and

> > >

> > > Ambien in January?

> > >

> > > Back in Dec when I first attempted the k cut I was never this bad.

> > >

> > > Does my brain need longer time to heal from the previous drugs and

previous cut attempts?

> > >

> > > Before I did the last cut last week I was stabilized and feeling

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> > > more " normal " with a clearer head and a more energy.

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> > > Any opinion if I should put off cutting for a few more months as to me I

appear to be having a pretty severe reaction on such a tiny liquid cut?

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> > > Hope this is not too complicated as I know you are busy. I have been

trying to go on my own since being in touch in Jan re the Darvocet.

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> > > Kathy>>

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> > >

> > > ** Kathy, the deciding factor ALWAYS (unless one is having serious

adverse reactions to a drug) is that unless you feel as well or better than you

felt prior to the last reduction, you cannot do another reduction. You know

it's time when you feel better.

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> > >

> > > You mentioned compounded Klonopin. What dose is that? Don't

automatically answer. Look at the bottle and write it just as the label says.

> > >

> > > Are you taking any over-the-counter (OTC) drug at all? Have you had any

alcohol at all? Any other Rx drugs? Or recreational drugs? Please answer each

question. Thanks.

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