Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Message text written by INTERNET:uterinefibroids >< I'm 51 and in menopause. Last period was over 3 years ago. My 10cmx13cm pedunulated fibroid which grew just before menopause never shrunk. I had hoped it would but no such luck. I have put off taking any HRT because I thought they would make the fibroid grow more and start making my endometriosis act up again. Now my female internist says I should not put off taking HRT any longer because the results of a bone density test said I have the first signs of osteopinia. (Slight lose of bone density in hips) I'm guessing the prempro 0.625/2.5 that she wants me to start taking will make the fibroid grow and result in more pain and discomfort and probably cause me to have a myo done. My female internist said hyst was what she recommended not myo. She said there is no reason to keep uterus and ovaries after menopause with my fibroid history. Any one have any suggestions? Should I begin HRT? I feel pretty bad most of the time. Lots of aching in lower back, frequent urination, pressure and hot flashes. Maybe HRT will force me to do something. Anybody else trying to make this decision? Thanks, Kim Lester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I don't agree with your doctor at all. She must have a boat payment due. Holy cow! First off you'll have a one in 1000 chance dying from the surgery. Second, after the surgery you can start dealing with all the other surgery related problems you might have. 40% of hysts have complications. These can be vaginal prolapse, bladder and bowel dysfunction, and increased risk of high blood pressure (the uterus actually plays a role in controling blood pressure). You have a good chance of developing some kind of sexual dysfunction as well. Then there is a 20% chance of ovarian failure. Ovaries don't just make estrogen. You could loose a whole host of hormones such as testosterone, pregnalone and progesterone and start feeling really terrible. Your ovaries do not stop making hormones after menopause. They just change the proportions and amounts of hormones they produce. These hormones play important roles in health and endocrine function. So then you go on HRT in a big way. After 5 years of the stuff you will be at increased risk of breast cancer. Over time oral HRT can cause liver damage and galbladder problems. HRT can also interfere with the hormone production of the thyroid possibly leading you to having to take thyroid medication. A recent rand report that looked at the outcomes of many studies of hysterectomy found that the preponderance of data showed that the negative long term consequences of hysterectomy outweighed it's benefits. Check out these resources for info on hysterectomy. http://www.ccon.com/hers/ HERS-Hysterectomy Education and Research Services. They provide physician referrals, counseling and educational materials to help women save their uteruses and to help women deal with the consequences of hysterectomy. (I can vouch for the excellence of their physicians.) " The Hysterectomy Hoax. " by Dr. Stanley West website: http://www.repmed.com/ " The Ultimate Rape " by Plourde. http://www.newvoice.net/why.html It contains extensively researched information on hormones and hysterectomy. She wrote the book after her total hysterectomy and her long search to be well again. http://www.hystersisters.com/ (Hyster Sisters) http://www.angelfire.com/fl/endohystnhrt (Hysterectomy awareness) HRT does not contain the same hormones that your body makes and for that reason they often have many side effects. You might be interested in reading up on natural hormone replacement. These hormones exactly match the body's hormones. You may be able to take the natural weak estrogen estriol without making your fibroid grow. " Natural Woman, Natural Menopause " Marcus Laux, Conrad; Paperback; @ $11.70 each from amazon.com " Natural Hormone Replacement For Women Over 45 " V. , Morgenthaler (Contributor); Paperback; @ $8.95 each from amazon.com It seems to me that you could try doing load bearing exercises and taking plant phytoestrogens first before doing something so drastic and that could potentially cause you problems for the rest of your life. Some researchers have found that HRT only slows bone loss for a few years and that natural progesterone supplementation actually builds bones. Here are some are good pages on HRT and bone loss: http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-085.shtml http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-133e.shtml http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-133c.shtml Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 I don't agree with your doctor at all. She must have a boat payment due. Holy cow! First off you'll have a one in 1000 chance dying from the surgery. Second, after the surgery you can start dealing with all the other surgery related problems you might have. 40% of hysts have complications. These can be vaginal prolapse, bladder and bowel dysfunction, and increased risk of high blood pressure (the uterus actually plays a role in controling blood pressure). You have a good chance of developing some kind of sexual dysfunction as well. Then there is a 20% chance of ovarian failure. Ovaries don't just make estrogen. You could loose a whole host of hormones such as testosterone, pregnalone and progesterone and start feeling really terrible. Your ovaries do not stop making hormones after menopause. They just change the proportions and amounts of hormones they produce. These hormones play important roles in health and endocrine function. So then you go on HRT in a big way. After 5 years of the stuff you will be at increased risk of breast cancer. Over time oral HRT can cause liver damage and galbladder problems. HRT can also interfere with the hormone production of the thyroid possibly leading you to having to take thyroid medication. A recent rand report that looked at the outcomes of many studies of hysterectomy found that the preponderance of data showed that the negative long term consequences of hysterectomy outweighed it's benefits. Check out these resources for info on hysterectomy. http://www.ccon.com/hers/ HERS-Hysterectomy Education and Research Services. They provide physician referrals, counseling and educational materials to help women save their uteruses and to help women deal with the consequences of hysterectomy. (I can vouch for the excellence of their physicians.) " The Hysterectomy Hoax. " by Dr. Stanley West website: http://www.repmed.com/ " The Ultimate Rape " by Plourde. http://www.newvoice.net/why.html It contains extensively researched information on hormones and hysterectomy. She wrote the book after her total hysterectomy and her long search to be well again. http://www.hystersisters.com/ (Hyster Sisters) http://www.angelfire.com/fl/endohystnhrt (Hysterectomy awareness) HRT does not contain the same hormones that your body makes and for that reason they often have many side effects. You might be interested in reading up on natural hormone replacement. These hormones exactly match the body's hormones. You may be able to take the natural weak estrogen estriol without making your fibroid grow. " Natural Woman, Natural Menopause " Marcus Laux, Conrad; Paperback; @ $11.70 each from amazon.com " Natural Hormone Replacement For Women Over 45 " V. , Morgenthaler (Contributor); Paperback; @ $8.95 each from amazon.com It seems to me that you could try doing load bearing exercises and taking plant phytoestrogens first before doing something so drastic and that could potentially cause you problems for the rest of your life. Some researchers have found that HRT only slows bone loss for a few years and that natural progesterone supplementation actually builds bones. Here are some are good pages on HRT and bone loss: http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-085.shtml http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-133e.shtml http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-133c.shtml Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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