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If your basal temp is a basal temp, you are holding that thermometer

under your arm for 10 minutes. You do not add a degree. That is your temp.

I've read Broda ' instructions many times and you do not add a degree as

you normally would when waiting 3 minutes. Your temps look good!

PattiSue

Normal Temperature??

ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now, thanks to a

HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

basal 97.8

10am 98.6

1pm 98.6

3pm 98.0

What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the armpit, so

actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is the case, it would seem

that my temp is too high - what do you think?

Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my temp was

really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and I am not feeling hot

at all.

Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out too much

heat, it's a puzzle

Lynda

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yes, that's exactly how I have been doing it. Hey, that's great that my temps

are almost normal now and it has happened within a few days too

Lynda

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If your basal temp is a basal temp, you are holding that thermometer

under your arm for 10 minutes. You do not add a degree. That is your temp.

I've read Broda ' instructions many times and you do not add a degree as

you normally would when waiting 3 minutes. Your temps look good!

PattiSue

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> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is the

case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and I

am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

When my temp used to drop so low, my skin would be burning up, giving

off heat. My husband said it was like sleeping next to a

furnace...although this would usually happen when I was shivering.

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more questions! Now that my temps are normal, does that mean I am on the

correct dose of armour, or is it the adrenal support that pulls the temp up? I

am taking cortef. The only thing that screws up the picture is that I backed

off a higher dose of armour on Sunday so that would still be in my system,

right?

I am thinking this - and please tell me if you agree or not - if everything

stays the way it is at the moment, not feeling hot, normal temps etc - I should

keep everything in the regimen the same, not change anything for at least a

month. Maybe then I can see the bigger picture.

If I am on the correct dose of armour, should I start to see an improvement in

other symptoms. If only this pain in my legs would go away I would be happy!

Thanks for all your help

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

If your basal temp is a basal temp, you are holding that thermometer

under your arm for 10 minutes. You do not add a degree. That is your temp.

I've read Broda ' instructions many times and you do not add a degree as

you normally would when waiting 3 minutes. Your temps look good!

PattiSue

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hmm, I was the opposite, I felt hot but my skin was actually cold and clammy

Lynda

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When my temp used to drop so low, my skin would be burning up, giving

off heat. My husband said it was like sleeping next to a

furnace...although this would usually happen when I was shivering.

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> more questions! Now that my temps are normal, does that mean I am

on the correct dose of armour, or is it the adrenal support that

pulls the temp up? I am taking cortef. The only thing that screws

up the picture is that I backed off a higher dose of armour on Sunday

so that would still be in my system, right?

> I am thinking this - and please tell me if you agree or not - if

everything stays the way it is at the moment, not feeling hot, normal

temps etc - I should keep everything in the regimen the same, not

change anything for at least a month. Maybe then I can see the

bigger picture.

> If I am on the correct dose of armour, should I start to see an

improvement in other symptoms. If only this pain in my legs would

go away I would be happy!

> Thanks for all your help

> Lynda

Lynda - I believe everyone is different in this temp thing. I feel

the best at 98.6, but have not achieved that in my continuous dosing

on 4 grains Armour for the last 8-9 years....only now, since I have

been using Cortef since around thanksgiving, has my temp come up to

98.2-98.3 and I do feel much better. but some say if you're not at

normal tmep, your dose is off...I do not believe this was the case

for me. I thnk in my case it was the Cortef. I would say, ESY_ leave

things as they are now and see how you are in a month to decide

whther your dose is right, etc. My doctor always say that adding

Armour if your adrenals are tired can be dnagerous..or at least,

counter-productive...also that adrenal supposrt optimizes your Armour

dose (unless your adrenals are stong without support.) So I think you

are on the right track. For the pain in your legs, check

electrolytes...

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Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

.... definitely odd....

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

.... definitely odd....

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

.... definitely odd....

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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No fever, could have a mild chest infection. PattiSue wrote and said that the

Broda method of taking temp is your actual temp, you don't add 1 degree

to it

lynda

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Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

... definitely odd....

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No fever, could have a mild chest infection. PattiSue wrote and said that the

Broda method of taking temp is your actual temp, you don't add 1 degree

to it

lynda

----- Original Message -----

From: topper2@...

Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

... definitely odd....

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No fever, could have a mild chest infection. PattiSue wrote and said that the

Broda method of taking temp is your actual temp, you don't add 1 degree

to it

lynda

----- Original Message -----

From: topper2@...

Are you running a mild fever? Fighting anything?

... definitely odd....

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I saw... but I don't agree... I've tested on myself.. as have others..

and arm put temp is less.....

We dont' all agree on everything here... but that is also what makes this

group so powerful. If we all agreed on everything there would be no

reason to continue to find better answers.....

Viva le diferance! (how ever that is spelled! heeheheheheheheh)

This conversation reminded me that I've not tested my self for a while..

I'm a nice comfy 98.6 (under tongue) I didn't do under arm - cause then I

have to get up and clean the thermometer right away and I'm not in the

mood.

To be fair... a mild chest infection can run a slight fever.. but I'll

back down.. track your temps as you feel comfortable.. what ever it reads

you will be able to see if it varies up or down.

Topper ()

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:07:02 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> No fever, could have a mild chest infection. PattiSue wrote and

> said that the Broda method of taking temp is your actual

> temp, you don't add 1 degree to it

> lynda

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I saw... but I don't agree... I've tested on myself.. as have others..

and arm put temp is less.....

We dont' all agree on everything here... but that is also what makes this

group so powerful. If we all agreed on everything there would be no

reason to continue to find better answers.....

Viva le diferance! (how ever that is spelled! heeheheheheheheh)

This conversation reminded me that I've not tested my self for a while..

I'm a nice comfy 98.6 (under tongue) I didn't do under arm - cause then I

have to get up and clean the thermometer right away and I'm not in the

mood.

To be fair... a mild chest infection can run a slight fever.. but I'll

back down.. track your temps as you feel comfortable.. what ever it reads

you will be able to see if it varies up or down.

Topper ()

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:07:02 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> No fever, could have a mild chest infection. PattiSue wrote and

> said that the Broda method of taking temp is your actual

> temp, you don't add 1 degree to it

> lynda

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream.

> My temp has certainly crept up - here are today's temps

> basal 97.8

> 10am 98.6

> 1pm 98.6

> 3pm 98.0

> What concerns me though is that I used a mercury thermometer in the

> armpit, so actually these temps are 1 degree higher? If that is

> the case, it would seem that my temp is too high - what do you

> think?

> Anyway, it is a vast improvement and really weird because when my

> temp was really low I was feeling hot and now my temp is higher and

> I am not feeling hot at all.

> Maybe because of the low temp my body was responding by putting out

> too much heat, it's a puzzle

> Lynda

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream........> Lynda

Why has progesterone cream helped with feeling hot all the time? I feel hot all

the time too and wonder if you know how or why this works for you. I have been

using it for about 2 months, but don't notice a difference in that area.

(although other changes have been positive) How long to notice if it helps?

Thanks! Patti in MI

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream........> Lynda

Why has progesterone cream helped with feeling hot all the time? I feel hot all

the time too and wonder if you know how or why this works for you. I have been

using it for about 2 months, but don't notice a difference in that area.

(although other changes have been positive) How long to notice if it helps?

Thanks! Patti in MI

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:44:56 -0000 " Lynda "

writes:

> ok, as I reported earlier I am not feeling hot all the time now,

> thanks to a HUGE dose of progesterone cream........> Lynda

Why has progesterone cream helped with feeling hot all the time? I feel hot all

the time too and wonder if you know how or why this works for you. I have been

using it for about 2 months, but don't notice a difference in that area.

(although other changes have been positive) How long to notice if it helps?

Thanks! Patti in MI

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oh boy, you are more psychic than you thought!! Could I be fighting something,

you asked. Woke up through the night, sore throat, chesty cough, thumping

headache, legs on fire, muscles twitching all over the place.......

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

I saw... but I don't agree... I've tested on myself.. as have others..

and arm put temp is less.....

We dont' all agree on everything here... but that is also what makes this

group so powerful. If we all agreed on everything there would be no

reason to continue to find better answers.....

Viva le diferance! (how ever that is spelled! heeheheheheheheh)

This conversation reminded me that I've not tested my self for a while..

I'm a nice comfy 98.6 (under tongue) I didn't do under arm - cause then I

have to get up and clean the thermometer right away and I'm not in the

mood.

To be fair... a mild chest infection can run a slight fever.. but I'll

back down.. track your temps as you feel comfortable.. what ever it reads

you will be able to see if it varies up or down.

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oh boy, you are more psychic than you thought!! Could I be fighting something,

you asked. Woke up through the night, sore throat, chesty cough, thumping

headache, legs on fire, muscles twitching all over the place.......

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

I saw... but I don't agree... I've tested on myself.. as have others..

and arm put temp is less.....

We dont' all agree on everything here... but that is also what makes this

group so powerful. If we all agreed on everything there would be no

reason to continue to find better answers.....

Viva le diferance! (how ever that is spelled! heeheheheheheheh)

This conversation reminded me that I've not tested my self for a while..

I'm a nice comfy 98.6 (under tongue) I didn't do under arm - cause then I

have to get up and clean the thermometer right away and I'm not in the

mood.

To be fair... a mild chest infection can run a slight fever.. but I'll

back down.. track your temps as you feel comfortable.. what ever it reads

you will be able to see if it varies up or down.

Topper ()

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oh boy, you are more psychic than you thought!! Could I be fighting something,

you asked. Woke up through the night, sore throat, chesty cough, thumping

headache, legs on fire, muscles twitching all over the place.......

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

I saw... but I don't agree... I've tested on myself.. as have others..

and arm put temp is less.....

We dont' all agree on everything here... but that is also what makes this

group so powerful. If we all agreed on everything there would be no

reason to continue to find better answers.....

Viva le diferance! (how ever that is spelled! heeheheheheheheh)

This conversation reminded me that I've not tested my self for a while..

I'm a nice comfy 98.6 (under tongue) I didn't do under arm - cause then I

have to get up and clean the thermometer right away and I'm not in the

mood.

To be fair... a mild chest infection can run a slight fever.. but I'll

back down.. track your temps as you feel comfortable.. what ever it reads

you will be able to see if it varies up or down.

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I am not sure that this is the reason why it helped, but progesterone balances

out estrogen and I know that I am severely estrogen dominant. I think the

usual dose of prog cream was just " tickling " the estrogen/progesterone balance,

by using such a huge dose consistently for a few days seems to have done the

trick. I had been using the recommended dose of prog cream for months and it

hardly made a difference. Try using your normal dose morning and night with 3

smaller doses spead in between.

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

Why has progesterone cream helped with feeling hot all the time? I feel hot

all the time too and wonder if you know how or why this works for you. I have

been using it for about 2 months, but don't notice a difference in that area.

(although other changes have been positive) How long to notice if it helps?

Thanks! Patti in MI

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I am not sure that this is the reason why it helped, but progesterone balances

out estrogen and I know that I am severely estrogen dominant. I think the

usual dose of prog cream was just " tickling " the estrogen/progesterone balance,

by using such a huge dose consistently for a few days seems to have done the

trick. I had been using the recommended dose of prog cream for months and it

hardly made a difference. Try using your normal dose morning and night with 3

smaller doses spead in between.

Lynda

Re: Normal Temperature??

Why has progesterone cream helped with feeling hot all the time? I feel hot

all the time too and wonder if you know how or why this works for you. I have

been using it for about 2 months, but don't notice a difference in that area.

(although other changes have been positive) How long to notice if it helps?

Thanks! Patti in MI

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