Seroquel and Klonopin (w/response)

April 16, 2011

writes:

<<Have followed this board for some time and am going to be trying to start to

withdraw from k and seoquel in the next couple of weeks as they help me sleep

but I feel crappy all day. I had a history of drinking a couple of glasses of

wine to help me sleep and a couple of years ago quit that and went into a pretty

crazy and chaotic mess for a good while, I was put on ambien and antivan and

that made my anxiety worse and I eventually drank again and all hell broke loose

the amounts of booze I was drinking escalated and anxiety, depresion got worse,

I was put on alot of different meds but never took any for more than a couple of

weeks, I couldn't rationalize that after 37 years all of a sudden I was mentally

ill and needed to be medicated...long story short...I have now been off booze

for close to a year, am still taking .25 klonopin and 12.5 of seroquel, I cut

the seroquel in half...I have heard that it only acts as a anti histamine at

this dose? So I want to try and get off everything and see where I am at...I

know I won't probable sleep well for sometime...as my gaba receptors are

fried...but was wondering if you have any recommendations for me? I would be

willing to do a consult if that would help....I have been to a naturopath and I

have found out I dont methalize b vitamins and have very high levels of

cortisol...I have read your responses to people and it seems like you really get

this and would like your input if you have any.

>>

** Hi ,

First, let's correct some misperceptions. An antipsychotic drug is not

merely an " antihistamine " at any dose. It's a powerful, toxic drug. The

starting dose for schizophrenia is 25 mg. This propaganda you've been told came

from a physician with a brain asking the drug company how they can justify

giving an antipsychotic as a sleep aid. This was the answer they devised for

this question. Unfortunately, most physicians have no ability to reason or

critically think (which the drug industry knows and takes full advantage of)so

they accept this lie and pass it on to their patients.

You said:

<<I have been to a naturopath and I have found out I dont methalize b

vitamins and have very high levels of cortisol...>>

** If you weren't methylating B vitamins you'd be dead. You may

under-methylate (also referred to as having " high histamine " ), but you don't not

methylate. How was this status determined and what was/is being done to correct

it?

How and when was the high cortisol diagnosed? How is that being treated?

Given the complications with this case, I could not well by you without a

consultation.

Are you a vegetarian or do you have digestive issues?

Here's the most important thing to know. You cannot safely discontinue two

drugs at once. This has to be done one drug at a time. You'll need to really

slow down on dropping the Seroquel, too. You can do more permanent damage to

yourself going too quickly than you can do taking the drug. This is not an

exaggeration.

We can get a jump on things once you respond to my questions. You could

also post a 4 or 5 day food and beverage diary (can be from the past week).

Information on consultations is in a folder in our FILES section titled

's Consultation Info. The FILES can be found in the left hand margin

of the group page on Yahoo Groups.

Regards,

June 30, 2011

wrote:

<<,

For some reason I never saw this response and reposted. So I apologize for that.

I was diagnosed as undermethalyzing b vitamins when I was in treatment a little

over a year ago, the same time I was told my cortisol was high. The physician

was hesitant about getting me off the klonopin at that time as my anxiety was

extremely high. Fast forward a year and I probably should have attacke this

earlier but it is what it is.

I take methyl folate, bh4 (biotperin), supposed to be on a low sugar diet which

is not going very well right now. I was a strict vegetarion from 16-31 and from

31 til now 41, no red meat, very little dairy, no eggs. I feel okay for the

most part I seem to sleep at least am out for 6-8 hours, not sure how good the

sleep is. I have a somewhat hungover feeling, remember the feeling well from my

days of drinking. But no dry mouth and I can definitely function. I can keep a

food diary for the next week (though not sure it is going to be very good) Know

I need to eat better. I would be willing to do a consult as this is something I

am now ready to do. I want to see what I an like drug and alcohol free. Thank

you for your help thus far.

>>

** I will await the food and beverage diary.

Regards,

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