Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using a sugar manager!

[Guest guest]

Ken, that is true, but look at the type of sweetner that is used in those

candies. If they use sorbitol, you could have some not so pleasant side

effects! Also, total caloric intake during the day means a lot too. Life

ain't easy and part of that uneasiness is following a diet!

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

I know that I should watch my noutricionso will look into the splenda thing

and I think I'll bake some cookies with splenda too but just as a treat. I

found some russel stougher' and witman sugarless chocolates and find that

they're quite satisfactory with a carb reading of 9 so that's not too bad.

Ken b

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a

sugar manager!

I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small piece

of

pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I manage to

keep

my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You know,

enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a *cromium*

tablet

that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day, so has

anyone

on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to keep the dreded

sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any advise. Ken b in

toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that he is a

rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

[Guest guest]

Ken, that is true, but look at the type of sweetner that is used in those

candies. If they use sorbitol, you could have some not so pleasant side

effects! Also, total caloric intake during the day means a lot too. Life

ain't easy and part of that uneasiness is following a diet!

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

I know that I should watch my noutricionso will look into the splenda thing

and I think I'll bake some cookies with splenda too but just as a treat. I

found some russel stougher' and witman sugarless chocolates and find that

they're quite satisfactory with a carb reading of 9 so that's not too bad.

Ken b

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a

sugar manager!

I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small piece

of

pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I manage to

keep

my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You know,

enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a *cromium*

tablet

that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day, so has

anyone

on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to keep the dreded

sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any advise. Ken b in

toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that he is a

rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

[Guest guest]

Not exactly,

You have to , for a few nights, get up at about 3:00 AM and do a blood

sugar. If it is normalat that time, then high in the morning when you

arise, you know the " dawn effect " has happened. Then you (or your doc)

should be able to adjust your insulin (long acting) so that the insulin will

take bterr effect at thtime of the morning. Usually N insulin peaks about

6-8 hours after you take it, so if you are taking say 10 units, then you

would raise it 2 units in the evening when you take it and see what happens.

If the morning blood sugar is still high, then you raise it again 2 units.

As Harry said, you also need toknow how the H affects you. Does it lower

your BG 50 points or more or less? You will know this by measuring your BG

before a meal, counting your carbs and then measuring your BG 2 hours after

eating. If you have a BG of 5 whenyour measure befor a meal and then eat

30 grams of carbs and take 2 units of H, then you will know that 1 unit

covers 15 grams-if your BG is 5 after 2 hours.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, yes i understand this but i do not know how it can be avoided? you

are sleeping and your body is doing a job on you so all you can do is cope

with it the next day, right? karen from canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

>>> a

>>> sugar manager!

>>>

>>>

>>> >

>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>> piece

>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>> manage

>

>>> to

>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>> *cromium*

>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>> so

>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>> keep

>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>> advise.

>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that

>>> he

>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>> >

>>> >

[Guest guest]

Not exactly,

You have to , for a few nights, get up at about 3:00 AM and do a blood

sugar. If it is normalat that time, then high in the morning when you

arise, you know the " dawn effect " has happened. Then you (or your doc)

should be able to adjust your insulin (long acting) so that the insulin will

take bterr effect at thtime of the morning. Usually N insulin peaks about

6-8 hours after you take it, so if you are taking say 10 units, then you

would raise it 2 units in the evening when you take it and see what happens.

If the morning blood sugar is still high, then you raise it again 2 units.

As Harry said, you also need toknow how the H affects you. Does it lower

your BG 50 points or more or less? You will know this by measuring your BG

before a meal, counting your carbs and then measuring your BG 2 hours after

eating. If you have a BG of 5 whenyour measure befor a meal and then eat

30 grams of carbs and take 2 units of H, then you will know that 1 unit

covers 15 grams-if your BG is 5 after 2 hours.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, yes i understand this but i do not know how it can be avoided? you

are sleeping and your body is doing a job on you so all you can do is cope

with it the next day, right? karen from canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

>>> a

>>> sugar manager!

>>>

>>>

>>> >

>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>> piece

>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>> manage

>

>>> to

>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>> *cromium*

>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>> so

>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>> keep

>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>> advise.

>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that

>>> he

>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>> >

>>> >

[Guest guest]

Not exactly,

You have to , for a few nights, get up at about 3:00 AM and do a blood

sugar. If it is normalat that time, then high in the morning when you

arise, you know the " dawn effect " has happened. Then you (or your doc)

should be able to adjust your insulin (long acting) so that the insulin will

take bterr effect at thtime of the morning. Usually N insulin peaks about

6-8 hours after you take it, so if you are taking say 10 units, then you

would raise it 2 units in the evening when you take it and see what happens.

If the morning blood sugar is still high, then you raise it again 2 units.

As Harry said, you also need toknow how the H affects you. Does it lower

your BG 50 points or more or less? You will know this by measuring your BG

before a meal, counting your carbs and then measuring your BG 2 hours after

eating. If you have a BG of 5 whenyour measure befor a meal and then eat

30 grams of carbs and take 2 units of H, then you will know that 1 unit

covers 15 grams-if your BG is 5 after 2 hours.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, yes i understand this but i do not know how it can be avoided? you

are sleeping and your body is doing a job on you so all you can do is cope

with it the next day, right? karen from canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

>>> a

>>> sugar manager!

>>>

>>>

>>> >

>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>> piece

>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>> manage

>

>>> to

>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>> *cromium*

>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>> so

>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>> keep

>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>> advise.

>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that

>>> he

>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>> >

>>> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it wil take a while before the iron affects you. If yor BG dropped

that low then probably you took too much H with your lunch

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, my blood sugar before lunch was five point eight and before supper

was two point three. the doctor just told me my cell count was low and i

needed the iron. i am now taking a suplment and had spinach and even drank

the juices from cooking the spinach at supper tonight.

from what i understand i have to take the iron pills for at least a week

before i will see a difference. i do knot know what else to do? karen from

canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

>>> a

>>> sugar manager!

>>>

>>>

>>> >

>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>> piece

>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>> manage

>

>>> to

>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>> *cromium*

>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>> so

>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>> keep

>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>> advise.

>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that

>>> he

>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>> >

>>> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it wil take a while before the iron affects you. If yor BG dropped

that low then probably you took too much H with your lunch

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, my blood sugar before lunch was five point eight and before supper

was two point three. the doctor just told me my cell count was low and i

needed the iron. i am now taking a suplment and had spinach and even drank

the juices from cooking the spinach at supper tonight.

from what i understand i have to take the iron pills for at least a week

before i will see a difference. i do knot know what else to do? karen from

canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

>>> a

>>> sugar manager!

>>>

>>>

>>> >

>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>> piece

>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>> manage

>

>>> to

>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>> *cromium*

>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>> so

>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>> keep

>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>> advise.

>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that

>>> he

>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>> >

>>> >

[Guest guest]

Kay, Most docs, especially docs who do not specialize in diabetes, just do

not keep up with diabetes in particular. Also, too many docs are not taught

nutrition when in school, or they think it is boring and do not pay

attention.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the patient is

confused. thanks, karen from canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

Kay, Most docs, especially docs who do not specialize in diabetes, just do

not keep up with diabetes in particular. Also, too many docs are not taught

nutrition when in school, or they think it is boring and do not pay

attention.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the patient is

confused. thanks, karen from canada

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

patricia, since harry is helping me with the day time humalog i am afraid to

do the long acting at the same time. it is too much. i would feel safer just

doing the humalog for now. my morning readings have been o k so i would feel

very uncomfortable making too many changes at one time. i would be totally

screwed up. hope you agree for now. thanks, karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

patricia, since harry is helping me with the day time humalog i am afraid to

do the long acting at the same time. it is too much. i would feel safer just

doing the humalog for now. my morning readings have been o k so i would feel

very uncomfortable making too many changes at one time. i would be totally

screwed up. hope you agree for now. thanks, karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

If your morning readings are okay, then there is no reason to change them!

You must be getting the right dose of N.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, since harry is helping me with the day time humalog i am afraid to

do the long acting at the same time. it is too much. i would feel safer just

doing the humalog for now. my morning readings have been o k so i would feel

very uncomfortable making too many changes at one time. i would be totally

screwed up. hope you agree for now. thanks, karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

If your morning readings are okay, then there is no reason to change them!

You must be getting the right dose of N.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, since harry is helping me with the day time humalog i am afraid to

do the long acting at the same time. it is too much. i would feel safer just

doing the humalog for now. my morning readings have been o k so i would feel

very uncomfortable making too many changes at one time. i would be totally

screwed up. hope you agree for now. thanks, karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

If your morning readings are okay, then there is no reason to change them!

You must be getting the right dose of N.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

patricia, since harry is helping me with the day time humalog i am afraid to

do the long acting at the same time. it is too much. i would feel safer just

doing the humalog for now. my morning readings have been o k so i would feel

very uncomfortable making too many changes at one time. i would be totally

screwed up. hope you agree for now. thanks, karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

Ken, I am willing to bet that those candies are not " sugarless " . They

may not contain refined white sugar but you can bet your bootie that

they do contain some form of sweetener as Pat has mentioned.

The term " sugarless " is very, very misleading as it only indicates that

the product has not had refined white or brown sugar added to it. Sugar

alcohol, fructose and other non refined versions of " sugar " are used

instead. Also of interest is the fact that the sugar alcohol can be

subtracted from the total carbs which further misleads everyone.

Cy, theAncient Okie...

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a sugar manager!

I know that I should watch my noutricionso will look into the splenda

thing and I think I'll bake some cookies with splenda too but just as a

treat. I found some russel stougher' and witman sugarless chocolates

and find that they're quite satisfactory with a carb reading of 9 so

that's not too bad. Ken b

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a

sugar manager!

I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

piece

of

pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I manage

to

keep

my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

know,

enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a *cromium*

tablet

that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day, so has

anyone

on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to keep the

dreded

sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any advise. Ken b

in

toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that he is a

rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

[Guest guest]

Ken, I am willing to bet that those candies are not " sugarless " . They

may not contain refined white sugar but you can bet your bootie that

they do contain some form of sweetener as Pat has mentioned.

The term " sugarless " is very, very misleading as it only indicates that

the product has not had refined white or brown sugar added to it. Sugar

alcohol, fructose and other non refined versions of " sugar " are used

instead. Also of interest is the fact that the sugar alcohol can be

subtracted from the total carbs which further misleads everyone.

Cy, theAncient Okie...

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a sugar manager!

I know that I should watch my noutricionso will look into the splenda

thing and I think I'll bake some cookies with splenda too but just as a

treat. I found some russel stougher' and witman sugarless chocolates

and find that they're quite satisfactory with a carb reading of 9 so

that's not too bad. Ken b

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a

sugar manager!

I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

piece

of

pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I manage

to

keep

my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

know,

enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a *cromium*

tablet

that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day, so has

anyone

on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to keep the

dreded

sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any advise. Ken b

in

toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that he is a

rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

[Guest guest]

Ken, I am willing to bet that those candies are not " sugarless " . They

may not contain refined white sugar but you can bet your bootie that

they do contain some form of sweetener as Pat has mentioned.

The term " sugarless " is very, very misleading as it only indicates that

the product has not had refined white or brown sugar added to it. Sugar

alcohol, fructose and other non refined versions of " sugar " are used

instead. Also of interest is the fact that the sugar alcohol can be

subtracted from the total carbs which further misleads everyone.

Cy, theAncient Okie...

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a sugar manager!

I know that I should watch my noutricionso will look into the splenda

thing and I think I'll bake some cookies with splenda too but just as a

treat. I found some russel stougher' and witman sugarless chocolates

and find that they're quite satisfactory with a carb reading of 9 so

that's not too bad. Ken b

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a

sugar manager!

I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

piece

of

pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I manage

to

keep

my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like? You

know,

enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a *cromium*

tablet

that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day, so has

anyone

on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to keep the

dreded

sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any advise. Ken b

in

toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and that he is a

rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

[Guest guest]

Stress affects everyone differently, but generally it will raise your

glucose level as long as the stress is going on. Then in diabetics after

running a high glucose level during the stressful time, you may have a

sudden drop and have a hypoglycemic episode. This is especially so if yo

are on insulin.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff using

a sugar manager!

harry, this is fine with me but i do hope at some point we can talk about

stress and how it effects our blood sugars and what to do about it? many

thanks, karen

Re: how much can I have of the sweet

>>>>>>>>>>> stuff

>>>>>>>>>>> using a sugar manager!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the

>>>>>>>>>>>> patient

>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> confused. thanks, karen from canada

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry this ratio thing. how do i figure it out? do you mean one point five

units of insulin to fifteen carbs? please explain, many thanks, karen

Re: how much can I have of the sweet

>>>>>>>>> stuff

>>>>>>>>> using a sugar manager!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the patient

>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>> confused. thanks, karen from canada

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry this ratio thing. how do i figure it out? do you mean one point five

units of insulin to fifteen carbs? please explain, many thanks, karen

Re: how much can I have of the sweet

>>>>>>>>> stuff

>>>>>>>>> using a sugar manager!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the patient

>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>> confused. thanks, karen from canada

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

harry this ratio thing. how do i figure it out? do you mean one point five

units of insulin to fifteen carbs? please explain, many thanks, karen

Re: how much can I have of the sweet

>>>>>>>>> stuff

>>>>>>>>> using a sugar manager!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the patient

>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>> confused. thanks, karen from canada

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

, last night my reading was five point something. this morning it

was thirteen. in the mean time I got an email about a funeral of a friend.

her husband found out in January he had cancer and he was to retire this

June. well they buried him yesterday. I know what this is like as my husband

of twenty five years died and the pain of losing a loved one. it just

brought a lot of things to home for me. and the news I had been getting was

from a friend who we meet go to a grievance class. so I wake this morning

with a high sugar. I know my body and understand this will upset my sugar

because I am human. it generally goes even higher under these

circumstances.

Re: how much can I have of the sweet

>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff

>>>>>>>>>>>> using a sugar manager!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> harry, why are our doctors so misinformed? no wonder the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> patient

>>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused. thanks, karen from canada

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

sy, if i only had a high for the last two mornings and i know the reason for

the high would not be reason to do this check just yet would it? i had an

emotional upset which i know will throw off things. i think i just need the

dust to settle before i do any changes with the insulin dont you think?

karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that small

>>>> piece

>>>> > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such, each day if I

>>>> manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Emotional stress can be a real killer.

I would suggest that you need to keep a sharp eye on this situation

especially if it continues for any length of time.

What Pat, Harry and others are really saying is that you do need to know

how much insulin, oral meds or whatever you need to counteract the carbs

you consume.

You also need to have a very firm handle on how to " count them carbs " .

I know that all of this seems like " Much To Do About Nothing " but - it

is absolutely necessary for your well being and survival.

Each person is different and what works for one person most likely will

not be the same for another however, the general principles would apply.

Were I you I would get up in the middle of the night a couple of times

and take the sugar reading. It will also tell you how low you are going

during the night. This " Dawn Effect " Pat referenced should happen a

little while before you normally wake up in the morning. It is your

body's way of trying to arouse you from your slumber. This is why some

folks can wake up each morning without the use of an alarm clock, they

just wake up.

I suppose that if you are upset, worried or whatever and do not get a

real night's rest your body has no clue when to try to wake you up but

it knows that something is suppose to happen - sometime - so why not

now?

After a year of working on the project Crystal has finally come to grips

with the concept of carbohydrate consumption having a definite

relationship to blood sugar readings.

Over the past several weeks she has refused thingsw offered her when we

are at friends' house because " too many carbs, cant have it. "

This is a monumental accomplishment for Crystal, believe me.

A year ago she would get this vacant look and ask " why can't I have it? "

Hang in there , it really will get a lot easier and becoma habit.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a sugar manager!

sy, if i only had a high for the last two mornings and i know the reason

for

the high would not be reason to do this check just yet would it? i had

an

emotional upset which i know will throw off things. i think i just need

the

dust to settle before i do any changes with the insulin dont you think?

karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that

>>>> small piece > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such,

>>>> each day if I manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a

day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments

to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Emotional stress can be a real killer.

I would suggest that you need to keep a sharp eye on this situation

especially if it continues for any length of time.

What Pat, Harry and others are really saying is that you do need to know

how much insulin, oral meds or whatever you need to counteract the carbs

you consume.

You also need to have a very firm handle on how to " count them carbs " .

I know that all of this seems like " Much To Do About Nothing " but - it

is absolutely necessary for your well being and survival.

Each person is different and what works for one person most likely will

not be the same for another however, the general principles would apply.

Were I you I would get up in the middle of the night a couple of times

and take the sugar reading. It will also tell you how low you are going

during the night. This " Dawn Effect " Pat referenced should happen a

little while before you normally wake up in the morning. It is your

body's way of trying to arouse you from your slumber. This is why some

folks can wake up each morning without the use of an alarm clock, they

just wake up.

I suppose that if you are upset, worried or whatever and do not get a

real night's rest your body has no clue when to try to wake you up but

it knows that something is suppose to happen - sometime - so why not

now?

After a year of working on the project Crystal has finally come to grips

with the concept of carbohydrate consumption having a definite

relationship to blood sugar readings.

Over the past several weeks she has refused thingsw offered her when we

are at friends' house because " too many carbs, cant have it. "

This is a monumental accomplishment for Crystal, believe me.

A year ago she would get this vacant look and ask " why can't I have it? "

Hang in there , it really will get a lot easier and becoma habit.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: how much can I have of the sweet stuff

using a sugar manager!

sy, if i only had a high for the last two mornings and i know the reason

for

the high would not be reason to do this check just yet would it? i had

an

emotional upset which i know will throw off things. i think i just need

the

dust to settle before i do any changes with the insulin dont you think?

karen

how much can I have of the sweet stuff

>>>> using

>>>> a

>>>> sugar manager!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >

>>>> > I am wondering, as the subject indicates, if I can have that

>>>> small piece > of pie or say a couple of sweet cookies, or such,

>>>> each day if I manage

>>

>>>> to

>>>> > keep my sugars down by taking say, some Metformen, or the like?

>>>> You

>>>> > know, enough to keep down the suger levels. BTW, I am trying a

>>>> *cromium*

>>>> > tablet that states on the bottle, that I should only take one a

day,

>>>> so

>>>> > has anyone on list tried some of these natural food suppliments

to

>>>> keep

>>>> > the dreded sugar down? I'm a type two diabetic. Thanks for any

>>>> advise.

>>>> > Ken b in toronto hoever comes to god must believe that he is and

>>>> that

>>>> he

>>>> > is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him!

>>>> >

>>>> >