Re: What a Gift to Find This Yahoo Group! (w/response)

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[From -- I'm going to respond to both posts right here in this post.

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From billy t kid in response to (post below):

<<lorazapam will kill you i was house bound for 2 and a half years after getting

off of it so your hurricane is just now brewing god help you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>

** I want to shed a little light on 's experience. What he describes

occurs when a person makes reductions that are too big or too soon, most often

it's a combination of both. Patience and good planning will prevent the level

of discomfort poor experienced.

wrote:

Subject: What a Gift to Find This Yahoo Group!

To: Withdrawal_and_Recovery

Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 7:10 PM

<<Hello. I was diagnosed 20 years ago with bipolar schizoaffective and have had

2 hospitalizations since that time. I have been a really good patient and took

my medication as told but in January of this year, I really started to question

everything and have been working with a counselor to understand myself more and

see that I am not bipolar for life but have had extremes in judgement and by

consistently working with my higher self and connecting to that place of peace,

the adrenalin rush I have been on would cease.>>

** Congratulations for coming to an understanding of the root of your

problems.

You said:

<<It has been a very interesting journey. I have not reduced my mental health

medication as I have had a lot of sleep problems this year - but I think most of

that can be contributed to the continual questioning I have been doing and an

overall state of confusion. I have started on a homeopathic last week and I am

keeping on the path that the answer is not outside myself but inside.>>

** I hope you can see your way clear to working on discontinuing the psych

drugs. You continue to take them for sleep purposes you say, but the longer you

take them, the more damage you are doing to your natural sleep cycle (circadian

rhythms). There's no way around some difficulty adjusting to sleeping again

without drugs but the longer you do on this way the more difficult it will be

for you to get to a point of being able to sleep again.

You said:

<<It is a little scary to admit I am responsible for my life when

for so many years I honestly believed I had no control over what I may do in

life and at any time I could wind up in the hospital. It really is crazy the

things we tell ourselves so we can stay in our own mind's prison. I have for

many years only been on Carbamezapine, 800 mg per day but I added back in

Seroquel, 100 mg, Trazodone, 50 mg, and Lorazepam .5 mg, PRN (Trazodone and

Lorazepmam are new this year) when I started not being able to sleep. >>

** This is very confusing to me. On one hand you're saying you've reached a

point of awakening and understanding but then, you resume taking an

antipsychotic drug, and begin an antidepressant, and a benzodiazepine. Your

actions are not in line with the thoughts you're having. People don't have

this kind of awareness and then add 3 drugs because sleep is elusive. But I

think you may have difficulty seeing this because you are essentially, quite

drugged. There is no way to think clearly on all these drugs.

You said:

<<Every day I had this feeling I would be going to the hospital or something

worse but I look at this now as that I am just not going 100 miles another and

working on another project to save the world and prove my worth. >>

** I don't understand this statement. Could you say it another way or

elaborate please? Thanks.

You said:

<<Staying in this calm place feels good and I will start following the advice as

far as supplements and eating changes in preparation for reducing other meds.

Thank you for all of the information - this is great.

>>

** How long were you on Carbamezapine and how long did you take to

discontinue it? I suspect that some of the confusion of which you speak and a

good deal of your difficulty sleeping comes from coming off the Carbamezapine

too quickly.

I look forward to your responses. I'm glad you found us.

Regards,

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billy t kid wrote:

<<it wasnt a fast reduction it was ice cold turkey i nearly fricking died

literally.anyone on lorazapam is in alot of trouble whether they taper or not it

leaves no stone unturned it rips your mind body and soul apart over and over

again for years.......... and years.................then you get a nice dose of

post traumatic stress disorder for your hard work at survivng- well that was

the reward for me. 

-->>

** , you're speaking from the place of a person who went cold turkey.

Over the past 24 years I've helped a number of people discontinue Ativan without

suffering like this. It's crucial to do small, slow reductions. It can, and has

been done.

How do you currently feel? How would you describe it?

Regards,