Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Kirstie said: " Is Terry out of town? " You guys must have esp! I actually was out of town most of the day, and I still have 136 messages to read. Just before I bumped into Kirstie's message, I was just thinking how the messages were beginning to take a strange little turn . . . almost as though I'd been out of town! You kids! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Kirstie said: " Is Terry out of town? " You guys must have esp! I actually was out of town most of the day, and I still have 136 messages to read. Just before I bumped into Kirstie's message, I was just thinking how the messages were beginning to take a strange little turn . . . almost as though I'd been out of town! You kids! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 And, by the way, I've been playing Marbles for several weeks now, and my highest score was somewhere in the 680 range. I can pretty consistently hit 300 to 500. T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 I never heard that most Native Americans were alcoholics, just that they can't handle their liquor. Their livers metabolize it differently. I'm married to one, BTW - he rarely drinks and very little if he does, because he can't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 I never heard that most Native Americans were alcoholics, just that they can't handle their liquor. Their livers metabolize it differently. I'm married to one, BTW - he rarely drinks and very little if he does, because he can't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 I never heard that most Native Americans were alcoholics, just that they can't handle their liquor. Their livers metabolize it differently. I'm married to one, BTW - he rarely drinks and very little if he does, because he can't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 I must be stupid. Someone refresh my memory. I thought that the original post that started this discussion was something benign, roughly translated as " doesn't eating all this MEAT get dull? " I assumed the poster was wondering how we could be content to eat so much meat and so little anything else (a basic misunderstanding of the whole Atkins concept, but pretty widely misunderstood nonetheless). And then, I thought that Jerome misunderstood THAT statement and thought that it said " eating meat makes YOU dull " . Which, I just chalked up to a misuderstanding arising from issues related to lingual/cultural barriers and the possibility that English is not the first language of Jerome, who judging from his e-mail address is perhaps living somewhere in the Philippines. Actually, when I first read 's post about vegetarian eating, I noticed right off that she said that any diet, done incorrectly, will likely cause medical problems. I agreed with her wholeheartedly and thought it was great that she pointed out that fact. And, I find it admirable that she is helping a loved one to live and eat in a way that differs so much from her own preferred way to eat. That shows a remarkable commitment. I did get a chuckle when someone asked who I was! I guess I haven't been opening my big mouth enough around here lately. How soon you kids forget your old list mom! And, hey! I was only 100 miles away from home today. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 I must be stupid. Someone refresh my memory. I thought that the original post that started this discussion was something benign, roughly translated as " doesn't eating all this MEAT get dull? " I assumed the poster was wondering how we could be content to eat so much meat and so little anything else (a basic misunderstanding of the whole Atkins concept, but pretty widely misunderstood nonetheless). And then, I thought that Jerome misunderstood THAT statement and thought that it said " eating meat makes YOU dull " . Which, I just chalked up to a misuderstanding arising from issues related to lingual/cultural barriers and the possibility that English is not the first language of Jerome, who judging from his e-mail address is perhaps living somewhere in the Philippines. Actually, when I first read 's post about vegetarian eating, I noticed right off that she said that any diet, done incorrectly, will likely cause medical problems. I agreed with her wholeheartedly and thought it was great that she pointed out that fact. And, I find it admirable that she is helping a loved one to live and eat in a way that differs so much from her own preferred way to eat. That shows a remarkable commitment. I did get a chuckle when someone asked who I was! I guess I haven't been opening my big mouth enough around here lately. How soon you kids forget your old list mom! And, hey! I was only 100 miles away from home today. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Well, - at any rate, it all makes for a lively conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Well, - at any rate, it all makes for a lively conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Yes, it was definitely a series of misunderstandings - but it certainly made for good list reading today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 , I'm not going out of town tomorrow, so everyone knows they have to behave! LOL! Welcome to the list . . . . looks like you've had a trial by fire. We're usually much nicer to the new kids. I think everyone's been suffering from carb withdrawals and we're just a teeny bit cranky after the holidays! Tomorrow is a new day . . . and a better day. You'll do fine around here, . Don't sweat it! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 , I'm not going out of town tomorrow, so everyone knows they have to behave! LOL! Welcome to the list . . . . looks like you've had a trial by fire. We're usually much nicer to the new kids. I think everyone's been suffering from carb withdrawals and we're just a teeny bit cranky after the holidays! Tomorrow is a new day . . . and a better day. You'll do fine around here, . Don't sweat it! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 --- tinkerbell wrote: > > I'd be bored too if I ate meat all the time .. so I > don't ... I eat eggs and > cheese and salmon and tuna and every fish > imagineable and pork (mmmmmmm the > best white meat!) and chicken and turkey and veal > and venison (if someone > will send me some) and more eggs and cheese and > ..... and every now and then > I'll give in and have meat. > > I think mental attitude is so important here. People > have happily dieted > eating far less, like the grapefruit diet.... ummm > to me that IS BORING! > This is a great list to get ideas for recipes and > such.. > > tink > > > > <<I am sort of confused because eating meat a lot > seems it would get dull. > >> > > > No I guess I'm the confused one, I don't know much about the diet, I have been told you have to eat mostly meats some veg, but no dairy, and that the diet works. I thought I'd try it out. I thought this site would be a support and good way to learn, not to be made to feel stupid, and have smart ass remarks made about my questions, so I think I'll do my self a favor and unsubsribe, I need to find a support group that is supportive, not full of people like you > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 --- tinkerbell wrote: > > I'd be bored too if I ate meat all the time .. so I > don't ... I eat eggs and > cheese and salmon and tuna and every fish > imagineable and pork (mmmmmmm the > best white meat!) and chicken and turkey and veal > and venison (if someone > will send me some) and more eggs and cheese and > ..... and every now and then > I'll give in and have meat. > > I think mental attitude is so important here. People > have happily dieted > eating far less, like the grapefruit diet.... ummm > to me that IS BORING! > This is a great list to get ideas for recipes and > such.. > > tink > > > > <<I am sort of confused because eating meat a lot > seems it would get dull. > >> > > > No I guess I'm the confused one, I don't know much about the diet, I have been told you have to eat mostly meats some veg, but no dairy, and that the diet works. I thought I'd try it out. I thought this site would be a support and good way to learn, not to be made to feel stupid, and have smart ass remarks made about my questions, so I think I'll do my self a favor and unsubsribe, I need to find a support group that is supportive, not full of people like you > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Sorry , no one did say you are dull or boring. I think you made that assumption out of my statement which I just mentioned that I got the info from a site. regards/Jerome Tanjtan@...Mobile: +639175277928 Re: new member Well, no one can say I'm dull (boring) It was my first day. How was my GRAND introduction? I really didn't mean to stir things up so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Sorry , no one did say you are dull or boring. I think you made that assumption out of my statement which I just mentioned that I got the info from a site. regards/Jerome Tanjtan@...Mobile: +639175277928 Re: new member Well, no one can say I'm dull (boring) It was my first day. How was my GRAND introduction? I really didn't mean to stir things up so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 C Wolfert, I can give you some excellent links that will tell you a lot more about what is allowed on this WOE. I hope you'll decide to stay and not just everyone's attitude by the remarks of one person. By and large, our group here is extremely helpful. Take a look at this link, which will tell you some menu plans for foods for the 2 week Induction period: Turtle Menues: /files/Atkins_Support_List/TurtlePlan1.txt As you can see, dairy is allowed. Cheese, cream, butter. Just not regular milk, or skim milk, or low fat milk. And you just have to be sure to count the carbs in it. Please feel free to ask any time you have a question. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 C Wolfert, I can give you some excellent links that will tell you a lot more about what is allowed on this WOE. I hope you'll decide to stay and not just everyone's attitude by the remarks of one person. By and large, our group here is extremely helpful. Take a look at this link, which will tell you some menu plans for foods for the 2 week Induction period: Turtle Menues: /files/Atkins_Support_List/TurtlePlan1.txt As you can see, dairy is allowed. Cheese, cream, butter. Just not regular milk, or skim milk, or low fat milk. And you just have to be sure to count the carbs in it. Please feel free to ask any time you have a question. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 *snip* You know the old saying.. " When the cat's away, the mice will play " A. > I was only 100 miles away from home today. > > Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 : First, here are a bunch of links! (Since you said you like research) I believe that in the faq there are references to vegetarian low-carbing. A. ALT.SUPPORT.DIET.LOW-CARB HELPFUL LINKS http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm http://www.wrappers.com/fatfree.html TORTILLAS http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html <----INDUCTION http://www.angelfire.com./ca2/LowcarbingDream/index.html http://www.locarbliving.com/kit.html NEWBIES SURVIVAL KIT http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb http://members.xoom.com/Christy_Ann/frugal.htm FRUGAL LOW CARB http://wilstar.com/lowcarb/ http://www.lowcarbnexus.com http://home.talkcity.com/TechnologyWay/wallyb/index.html http://www.rahul.net/fatfree/usda/all.shtml http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl <---FOOD COUNTS http://www.ncenter.com/carbcharts/ http://www.nutri-facts.com/search.asp http://www.atkinsdiethelp.com/ http://www.ourlittlecorner.com/index.htp http://www.escribe.com/health/atkins/ http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart5a.htm CARB/FAT CHART http://hometown.aol.com/drjavaago/index.html http://www.caprok.net/dgservices/food.htm http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1617/carbohydrate_chart.html http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/~jyelon/lowcarb.med/ RESEARCH http://www.ncenter.com/carbcharts/carbohydrate_chart.shtml http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/lcfaq/index.html LOW CARB/EXERCISE http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/pictures.html LYNNE'S CHOCOLATE http://wilstar.com/lowcarb/hiddencarbs.htm HIDDEN CARBS http://www.atkinscenter.com/faq/search.asp?type=keyword OFFICIAL SITE/ATKINS http://www.panix.com/~candida/ CANDIDA http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/~jyelon/lowcarb.med/ RESEARCH http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm GLYCEMIC INDEX http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/cookbookdownload.html TINA'S LC COOKBOOK http://members.aol.com/chghanbari/shake/index.htm PROTEIN SHAKE www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/idxrec.html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/8853/board.htm http://hometown.aol.com/drjavaago/index.html http://www.split.com/fat/plateau.htm PLATEAU BUSTER CKD-TKD http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/lcfaq/index.html http://www.shoplowcarb.com/books.htm http://www.davincigourmet.com/Products/Sugar_Free_Syrups.htm http://www.lowcarbnexus.com/ http://www.thinner.com/ http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/ VEGETARIAN LC www.aspenicecream.com http://www.enteract.com/~jldavid/lowcarb/pyramid.html THE LOW CARB PYRAMID http://www.cyberdiet.com/ni/htdocs/index.html http://www.devtex.net/graham/lc.html http://www.lowcarbgourmet.com/ NEWSLETTER http://www.classicx.com/html/2super.html THE WATER QUESTION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Terry, You should try a test to see just how far away from home you can get before things get outta control!! We now know 100 miles is too far! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Terry, You should try a test to see just how far away from home you can get before things get outta control!! We now know 100 miles is too far! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Terry, You should try a test to see just how far away from home you can get before things get outta control!! We now know 100 miles is too far! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 , Now that the storm's over, I'd just like to say welcome! I'd also like to say that I disagree that staying at induction levels is unhealthy. Many of us continue to stay at 20 or fewer carbs. Dr. Atkins says this is fine, as long as one is healthy. That's all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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