Doctors refusing to fill out paperwork

[Guest guest]

I thought this was a problem just with those of use with auto-immune

diseases. However a very close friend is having problems with her doctor

filling out

paperwork for her short term disability.

To give you some background. She is the victim of a murder attempt. 3 army

soldiers came to her house to " kill everyone in the house " 5 yrs ago. This

happened in government quarters on a military installation here in Texas on

Easter Sunday nite. They missed her three children and her hubby as they rang

the

door bell in the middle of the night, found an unlocked door and walked in.

As she got up to go to the door she was shot 3 times in the stomach and chest.

She has survived it but not without a lot of problems both mental and

physical . Its her physical problems that are an issue right now. She has not

been

able to eat food...due to all the damage from being shot. She has bullet

fragment in her spine and lodged in her pancreas. These can not be removed

without killed her.

So her family doc put her out on short term disability. However he is

charging her $10 per page to fill out paperwork and at this point is dragging

his

feet about filling out anything as he is not the specialist treating all her

complications.

I thought at first this problem was just confined to those of use with

autoimmune issues. Its not! This seems to be a MAJOR epidemic of docs refusing

to

fill out paperwork or charge exorbitant fees to fill out the simplest of

forms.

This whole situation is frustating and makes me very angry. My friend has

been a school teacher for over 22 years now...and without this paperwork she

cannot get paid. To think her hubby has been a soldier for over 20 yrs and

just came back from Iraq to find his wifes condition has gotten worst

resulting in her needing time off from work to adjust to new meds.

Toni

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[Guest guest]

I'd say **** that Doctor and get a new one. But if your Doc is

dragging his feet on the paperwork just make a regular follow up appt

and have him fill it out then. To tell you the truth the nurses fill

out most of the **** and the docs just fill in the DX and Sign.

>

> I thought this was a problem just with those of use with auto-

immune

> diseases. However a very close friend is having problems with her

doctor filling out

> paperwork for her short term disability.

>

> To give you some background. She is the victim of a murder

attempt. 3 army

> soldiers came to her house to " kill everyone in the house " 5 yrs

ago. This

> happened in government quarters on a military installation here in

Texas on

> Easter Sunday nite. They missed her three children and her hubby as

they rang the

> door bell in the middle of the night, found an unlocked door and

walked in.

> As she got up to go to the door she was shot 3 times in the stomach

and chest.

>

> She has survived it but not without a lot of problems both mental

and

> physical . Its her physical problems that are an issue right now.

She has not been

> able to eat food...due to all the damage from being shot. She has

bullet

> fragment in her spine and lodged in her pancreas. These can not be

removed

> without killed her.

>

> So her family doc put her out on short term disability. However he

is

> charging her $10 per page to fill out paperwork and at this point

is dragging his

> feet about filling out anything as he is not the specialist

treating all her

> complications.

>

> I thought at first this problem was just confined to those of use

with

> autoimmune issues. Its not! This seems to be a MAJOR epidemic of

docs refusing to

> fill out paperwork or charge exorbitant fees to fill out the

simplest of

> forms.

>

> This whole situation is frustating and makes me very angry. My

friend has

> been a school teacher for over 22 years now...and without this

paperwork she

> cannot get paid. To think her hubby has been a soldier for over

20 yrs and

> just came back from Iraq to find his wifes condition has gotten

worst

> resulting in her needing time off from work to adjust to new

meds.

>

> Toni

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL

Living.

> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think HIPPA puts a cap on the fee. HIPPA just regulates access to

patient information. AMA doesn't necessarily regulate fees, INSURANCE does that.

Providers can charge a fee but that doesn't mean that they will actually

receive the payment they desired. It is a pain in the rear all the paperwork

that providers have to fill out due to bureaucracy. It's a shame that it

affects

the patients too. It seems to me that the blame should be pointed somewhere

else!!!

Abby

In a message dated 2/19/2008 3:46:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kguynn@... writes:

They can charge a fee, but I don't know if the AMA put a cap on the

fee. You might look up the HPPA law. She might also threaten to file a

complaint with the Texas state board.

Kate G

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[Guest guest]

They can charge a fee, but I don't know if the AMA put a cap on the

fee. You might look up the HPPA law. She might also threaten to file a

complaint with the Texas state board.

Kate G

At 12:56 PM 2/19/2008, you wrote:

>I thought this was a problem just with those of use with auto-immune

>diseases. However a very close friend is having problems with her doctor

>filling out

>paperwork for her short term disability.

>

>To give you some background. She is the victim of a murder attempt. 3 army

>soldiers came to her house to " kill everyone in the house " 5 yrs ago. This

>happened in government quarters on a military installation here in Texas on

>Easter Sunday nite. They missed her three children and her hubby as they

>rang the

>door bell in the middle of the night, found an unlocked door and walked in.

>As she got up to go to the door she was shot 3 times in the stomach and

>chest.

>

>She has survived it but not without a lot of problems both mental and

>physical . Its her physical problems that are an issue right now.

>She has not been

>able to eat food...due to all the damage from being shot. She has bullet

>fragment in her spine and lodged in her pancreas. These can not be removed

>without killed her.

>

>So her family doc put her out on short term disability. However he is

>charging her $10 per page to fill out paperwork and at this point is

>dragging his

>feet about filling out anything as he is not the specialist treating all her

>complications.

>

>I thought at first this problem was just confined to those of use with

>autoimmune issues. Its not! This seems to be a MAJOR epidemic of

>docs refusing to

>fill out paperwork or charge exorbitant fees to fill out the simplest of

>forms.

>

>This whole situation is frustating and makes me very angry. My friend has

>been a school teacher for over 22 years now...and without this paperwork she

>cannot get paid. To think her hubby has been a soldier for over 20 yrs and

>just came back from Iraq to find his wifes condition has gotten worst

>resulting in her needing time off from work to adjust to new meds.

>

>Toni

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is such a tragic story! I've never had to pay for

any of my forms being filled out. I have seen at some

of my doctors offices signs for charges for filling

out paperwork though. Some of my doctors offices

started at a fee of $50.00. With my disability

paperwork they all filled it out for free, and the

rheumatologist sat with me and went over every

question with me.

--- aclavern33@... wrote:

> I thought this was a problem just with those of use

> with auto-immune

> diseases. However a very close friend is having

> problems with her doctor filling out

> paperwork for her short term disability.

>

> To give you some background. She is the victim of a

> murder attempt. 3 army

> soldiers came to her house to " kill everyone in the

> house " 5 yrs ago. This

> happened in government quarters on a military

> installation here in Texas on

> Easter Sunday nite. They missed her three children

> and her hubby as they rang the

> door bell in the middle of the night, found an

> unlocked door and walked in.

> As she got up to go to the door she was shot 3 times

> in the stomach and chest.

>

> She has survived it but not without a lot of

> problems both mental and

> physical . Its her physical problems that are an

> issue right now. She has not been

> able to eat food...due to all the damage from being

> shot. She has bullet

> fragment in her spine and lodged in her pancreas.

> These can not be removed

> without killed her.

>

> So her family doc put her out on short term

> disability. However he is

> charging her $10 per page to fill out paperwork and

> at this point is dragging his

> feet about filling out anything as he is not the

> specialist treating all her

> complications.

>

> I thought at first this problem was just confined to

> those of use with

> autoimmune issues. Its not! This seems to be a

> MAJOR epidemic of docs refusing to

> fill out paperwork or charge exorbitant fees to fill

> out the simplest of

> forms.

>

> This whole situation is frustating and makes me very

> angry. My friend has

> been a school teacher for over 22 years now...and

> without this paperwork she

> cannot get paid. To think her hubby has been a

> soldier for over 20 yrs and

> just came back from Iraq to find his wifes condition

> has gotten worst

> resulting in her needing time off from work to

> adjust to new meds.

>

> Toni

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch

> video on AOL Living.

>

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

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[Guest guest]

Isn't this essentially what I said?

By the way, sorry this happened to you. Sounds like a nightmare.

Abby

In a message dated 2/20/2008 11:22:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kalfoley@... writes:

Physicians and other health care providers are allowed under the law to

charge to fill out paperwork for their patients. After all, it's their

professional time involved in reviewing a patient's record and filling out

whatever

forms need to be done. I charge for my time to fill out disability and other

paperwork. I didn't do this way back when, but now pretty much all health

care providers have no choice. My employer assesses my productivity monthly

and

I am only good to them if I am seeing patients and generating revenue.

Offices can also charge fees for staff time to copy charts and other

administrative tasks. Fees are set be individual providers, coverage may or

may not be

provided by your plan. Filing a licensing complaint with a state board is a

big deal and is usually done when patients feel that they've been wronged in

some way. You can complain to the dept of professional regulation if the

provider has been abusive or unethical (license

to practice) or to the state's insurance commissioner if you think fees have

been assessed unfairly. I complained to 2 state commissioners because my

reproductive endocrinologist was billing me for procedures that were never done

(two IVF procedures when I actually had 3 minute blood draws!) and

attempting to " balance bill " me the difference between the negotiated insurance

rate

and their fees. Even when I called and wrote letters they wouldn't budge, so

I had to go blow the whistle.

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[Guest guest]

Physicians and other health care providers are allowed under the law to charge

to fill out paperwork for their patients. After all, it's their professional

time involved in reviewing a patient's record and filling out whatever forms

need to be done. I charge for my time to fill out disability and other

paperwork. I didn't do this way back when, but now pretty much all health care

providers have no choice. My employer assesses my productivity monthly and I am

only good to them if I am seeing patients and generating revenue. Offices can

also charge fees for staff time to copy charts and other administrative tasks.

Fees are set be individual providers, coverage may or may not be provided by

your plan. Filing a licensing complaint with a state board is a big deal and is

usually done when patients feel that they've been wronged in some way. You can

complain to the dept of professional regulation if the provider has been abusive

or unethical (license

to practice) or to the state's insurance commissioner if you think fees have

been assessed unfairly. I complained to 2 state commissioners because my

reproductive endocrinologist was billing me for procedures that were never done

(two IVF procedures when I actually had 3 minute blood draws!) and attempting to

" balance bill " me the difference between the negotiated insurance rate and their

fees. Even when I called and wrote letters they wouldn't budge, so I had to go

blow the whistle.

Re: [ ] Doctors refusing to fill out paperwork

I don't think HIPPA puts a cap on the fee. HIPPA just regulates access to

patient information. AMA doesn't necessarily regulate fees, INSURANCE does that.

Providers can charge a fee but that doesn't mean that they will actually

receive the payment they desired. It is a pain in the rear all the paperwork

that providers have to fill out due to bureaucracy. It's a shame that it affects

the patients too. It seems to me that the blame should be pointed somewhere

else!!!

Abby

In a message dated 2/19/2008 3:46:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kguynnteamkaos (DOT) org writes:

They can charge a fee, but I don't know if the AMA put a cap on the

fee. You might look up the HPPA law. She might also threaten to file a

complaint with the Texas state board.

Kate G

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[Guest guest]

If I may chime in......if I understand all of this right, I don't see a problem

with any doctor or doctor's office charging for their time to fill out any form.

But they should do it in a timely fashion if they are getting paid for it. It

simply is not right to charge for something that is not provided and/or provided

properly. Also, I don't feel that a doctor should ever refuse to fill something

out unless they are in disagreement. Even then, it should be explained in full

to the patient. Failure to fill something out for anything less is just

unprofessional and should be reported (in my opinion).

getcoffee@... wrote: Isn't this essentially what I said?

By the way, sorry this happened to you. Sounds like a nightmare.

Abby

In a message dated 2/20/2008 11:22:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kalfoley@... writes:

Physicians and other health care providers are allowed under the law to

charge to fill out paperwork for their patients. After all, it's their

professional time involved in reviewing a patient's record and filling out

whatever

forms need to be done. I charge for my time to fill out disability and other

paperwork. I didn't do this way back when, but now pretty much all health

care providers have no choice. My employer assesses my productivity monthly and

I am only good to them if I am seeing patients and generating revenue.

Offices can also charge fees for staff time to copy charts and other

administrative tasks. Fees are set be individual providers, coverage may or may

not be

provided by your plan. Filing a licensing complaint with a state board is a

big deal and is usually done when patients feel that they've been wronged in

some way. You can complain to the dept of professional regulation if the

provider has been abusive or unethical (license

to practice) or to the state's insurance commissioner if you think fees have

been assessed unfairly. I complained to 2 state commissioners because my

reproductive endocrinologist was billing me for procedures that were never done

(two IVF procedures when I actually had 3 minute blood draws!) and

attempting to " balance bill " me the difference between the negotiated insurance

rate

and their fees. Even when I called and wrote letters they wouldn't budge, so

I had to go blow the whistle.

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