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Did your Dr. have you taking Vitamin E or anything for the hot flashes? My

ob/gyn has me taking 400iu daily because I have been experiencing hot flashes

for about 6 months already. It helps! I get my first shot next week. Will

keep you posted.

Fran

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Did your Dr. have you taking Vitamin E or anything for the hot flashes? My

ob/gyn has me taking 400iu daily because I have been experiencing hot flashes

for about 6 months already. It helps! I get my first shot next week. Will

keep you posted.

Fran

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Did your Dr. have you taking Vitamin E or anything for the hot flashes? My

ob/gyn has me taking 400iu daily because I have been experiencing hot flashes

for about 6 months already. It helps! I get my first shot next week. Will

keep you posted.

Fran

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Hi Fran

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. I've had 3 Lupron shots. I personally

have experience hot flashes. I have not experience bad headaches. I have 1

0r 2 minor headaches. I hope you experience is easy going.

> ,

> Thanks for your response. I am about to have my first Lupron shot on Feb

13.

> My ob/gyn has me taking an iron supplement, 600 mg calcium, and a

> multivitamin. Although I am not anemic, she put me on the iron anyway.

Are

> you taking any supplements? I have a lot of anxiety about how I will

feel

> after the first shot. I have been having hot flashes for the past year,

so

> I'm dealing with them. The headaches I hope, will be manageable. Did you

> have your second shot yet? Let me know how you are feeling?

> Fran

>

>

>

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Hi Fran

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. I've had 3 Lupron shots. I personally

have experience hot flashes. I have not experience bad headaches. I have 1

0r 2 minor headaches. I hope you experience is easy going.

> ,

> Thanks for your response. I am about to have my first Lupron shot on Feb

13.

> My ob/gyn has me taking an iron supplement, 600 mg calcium, and a

> multivitamin. Although I am not anemic, she put me on the iron anyway.

Are

> you taking any supplements? I have a lot of anxiety about how I will

feel

> after the first shot. I have been having hot flashes for the past year,

so

> I'm dealing with them. The headaches I hope, will be manageable. Did you

> have your second shot yet? Let me know how you are feeling?

> Fran

>

>

>

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Hi Fran

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. I've had 3 Lupron shots. I personally

have experience hot flashes. I have not experience bad headaches. I have 1

0r 2 minor headaches. I hope you experience is easy going.

> ,

> Thanks for your response. I am about to have my first Lupron shot on Feb

13.

> My ob/gyn has me taking an iron supplement, 600 mg calcium, and a

> multivitamin. Although I am not anemic, she put me on the iron anyway.

Are

> you taking any supplements? I have a lot of anxiety about how I will

feel

> after the first shot. I have been having hot flashes for the past year,

so

> I'm dealing with them. The headaches I hope, will be manageable. Did you

> have your second shot yet? Let me know how you are feeling?

> Fran

>

>

>

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Out of sheer curiosity....how many of the women who are currently posting about

taking Lupron on this

list are NOT anemic?

I only ask because.....this drug is not FDA approved for " shrinking fibroids " at

all...only for

dealing with pre-operative anemia. In other words, if you aren't anemic and

scheduled for surgery,

you shouldn't be using the drug.

Also, why would anyone need to take this drug prior to a hysterectomy?

Especially for a hysterectomy

with the size of some of the fibroids I've been seeing posted on this board of

late. I've never quite

understood why any gyn planning on doing a hyst anyway, would put a patient who

isn't even anemic,

through the risk of Lupron. It boggles my mind.

Just how inexperienced is a gyn who can't do a hyst on a 6 cm or 8 cm fibroid

uterus? I'm confused

here.....because we're not exactly talking about monster fibroids....watermelon

size, etc......we're

talking about small to average size fibroids.

Sorry guys -- but the off label use of a product that's not even being

prescribed in a manner that

might actually help a woman is not something I can get behind. At all.

Especially not at $600 a

pop. That would be out of a kitty of insurance pool money that I pay into

too...and I'm not a very

happy camper about how frivolously this cash is being tossed around by gyns

prescribing this drug.

Oh, and sure, you can get Lupron, off label and outside of any clinical trial,

prior to your

hysterectomy at $600 a shot....

BUT....

....after your hysterectomy when/if you happen to be a patient who suffers from

blood flow problems

and/or lessened intensity in orgasm and you're a little dismayed about your sex

life going down the

toilet....try to get your insurance to cover a drug like Viagra at $11/pill for

you. It won't. At

all. Why, heavens to betsy, that would be off label distribution of an

unapproved FDA use of the

drug....

another thing. for any women seriously considering UAE, know up front that

Lupron is

contraindicated.....in other words, you shouldn't use Lupron if you are

considering UAE...

carla

....sorry to sound so snappy again...I'm having an " off " day....maybe tomorrow

will be better and I

won't have such a short fuse then....

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Out of sheer curiosity....how many of the women who are currently posting about

taking Lupron on this

list are NOT anemic?

I only ask because.....this drug is not FDA approved for " shrinking fibroids " at

all...only for

dealing with pre-operative anemia. In other words, if you aren't anemic and

scheduled for surgery,

you shouldn't be using the drug.

Also, why would anyone need to take this drug prior to a hysterectomy?

Especially for a hysterectomy

with the size of some of the fibroids I've been seeing posted on this board of

late. I've never quite

understood why any gyn planning on doing a hyst anyway, would put a patient who

isn't even anemic,

through the risk of Lupron. It boggles my mind.

Just how inexperienced is a gyn who can't do a hyst on a 6 cm or 8 cm fibroid

uterus? I'm confused

here.....because we're not exactly talking about monster fibroids....watermelon

size, etc......we're

talking about small to average size fibroids.

Sorry guys -- but the off label use of a product that's not even being

prescribed in a manner that

might actually help a woman is not something I can get behind. At all.

Especially not at $600 a

pop. That would be out of a kitty of insurance pool money that I pay into

too...and I'm not a very

happy camper about how frivolously this cash is being tossed around by gyns

prescribing this drug.

Oh, and sure, you can get Lupron, off label and outside of any clinical trial,

prior to your

hysterectomy at $600 a shot....

BUT....

....after your hysterectomy when/if you happen to be a patient who suffers from

blood flow problems

and/or lessened intensity in orgasm and you're a little dismayed about your sex

life going down the

toilet....try to get your insurance to cover a drug like Viagra at $11/pill for

you. It won't. At

all. Why, heavens to betsy, that would be off label distribution of an

unapproved FDA use of the

drug....

another thing. for any women seriously considering UAE, know up front that

Lupron is

contraindicated.....in other words, you shouldn't use Lupron if you are

considering UAE...

carla

....sorry to sound so snappy again...I'm having an " off " day....maybe tomorrow

will be better and I

won't have such a short fuse then....

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Out of sheer curiosity....how many of the women who are currently posting about

taking Lupron on this

list are NOT anemic?

I only ask because.....this drug is not FDA approved for " shrinking fibroids " at

all...only for

dealing with pre-operative anemia. In other words, if you aren't anemic and

scheduled for surgery,

you shouldn't be using the drug.

Also, why would anyone need to take this drug prior to a hysterectomy?

Especially for a hysterectomy

with the size of some of the fibroids I've been seeing posted on this board of

late. I've never quite

understood why any gyn planning on doing a hyst anyway, would put a patient who

isn't even anemic,

through the risk of Lupron. It boggles my mind.

Just how inexperienced is a gyn who can't do a hyst on a 6 cm or 8 cm fibroid

uterus? I'm confused

here.....because we're not exactly talking about monster fibroids....watermelon

size, etc......we're

talking about small to average size fibroids.

Sorry guys -- but the off label use of a product that's not even being

prescribed in a manner that

might actually help a woman is not something I can get behind. At all.

Especially not at $600 a

pop. That would be out of a kitty of insurance pool money that I pay into

too...and I'm not a very

happy camper about how frivolously this cash is being tossed around by gyns

prescribing this drug.

Oh, and sure, you can get Lupron, off label and outside of any clinical trial,

prior to your

hysterectomy at $600 a shot....

BUT....

....after your hysterectomy when/if you happen to be a patient who suffers from

blood flow problems

and/or lessened intensity in orgasm and you're a little dismayed about your sex

life going down the

toilet....try to get your insurance to cover a drug like Viagra at $11/pill for

you. It won't. At

all. Why, heavens to betsy, that would be off label distribution of an

unapproved FDA use of the

drug....

another thing. for any women seriously considering UAE, know up front that

Lupron is

contraindicated.....in other words, you shouldn't use Lupron if you are

considering UAE...

carla

....sorry to sound so snappy again...I'm having an " off " day....maybe tomorrow

will be better and I

won't have such a short fuse then....

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Hi Fran

No my Dr. hadn't recommended that. Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try if

I can. I have surgery schedule for 2/21 and I know there are some vitamins

that you shouldn't take a week or 2 prior to surgery. I don't know what they

are but I'm going to find out

kind Regards

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> ,

> Did your Dr. have you taking Vitamin E or anything for the hot flashes?

My

> ob/gyn has me taking 400iu daily because I have been experiencing hot

flashes

> for about 6 months already. It helps! I get my first shot next week.

Will

> keep you posted.

>

> Fran

>

>

>

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Hi Fran

No my Dr. hadn't recommended that. Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try if

I can. I have surgery schedule for 2/21 and I know there are some vitamins

that you shouldn't take a week or 2 prior to surgery. I don't know what they

are but I'm going to find out

kind Regards

Re: lupron

> ,

> Did your Dr. have you taking Vitamin E or anything for the hot flashes?

My

> ob/gyn has me taking 400iu daily because I have been experiencing hot

flashes

> for about 6 months already. It helps! I get my first shot next week.

Will

> keep you posted.

>

> Fran

>

>

>

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Hi

I was anemic 5.2 hemoglobin I'm now 13.6 I was bleeding very badly. I

resisted taken the Lupron for about a month but the bleeding was so bad. For

ME the risk was worth it. I have a 17cm fibroid due for surgery 2/21

Re: lupron

> Out of sheer curiosity....how many of the women who are currently posting

about taking Lupron on this

> list are NOT anemic?

>

> I only ask because.....this drug is not FDA approved for " shrinking

fibroids " at all...only for

> dealing with pre-operative anemia. In other words, if you aren't anemic

and scheduled for surgery,

> you shouldn't be using the drug.

>

> Also, why would anyone need to take this drug prior to a hysterectomy?

Especially for a hysterectomy

> with the size of some of the fibroids I've been seeing posted on this

board of late. I've never quite

> understood why any gyn planning on doing a hyst anyway, would put a

patient who isn't even anemic,

> through the risk of Lupron. It boggles my mind.

>

> Just how inexperienced is a gyn who can't do a hyst on a 6 cm or 8 cm

fibroid uterus? I'm confused

> here.....because we're not exactly talking about monster

fibroids....watermelon size, etc......we're

> talking about small to average size fibroids.

>

> Sorry guys -- but the off label use of a product that's not even being

prescribed in a manner that

> might actually help a woman is not something I can get behind. At all.

Especially not at $600 a

> pop. That would be out of a kitty of insurance pool money that I pay into

too...and I'm not a very

> happy camper about how frivolously this cash is being tossed around by

gyns prescribing this drug.

>

> Oh, and sure, you can get Lupron, off label and outside of any clinical

trial, prior to your

> hysterectomy at $600 a shot....

>

> BUT....

>

> ...after your hysterectomy when/if you happen to be a patient who suffers

from blood flow problems

> and/or lessened intensity in orgasm and you're a little dismayed about

your sex life going down the

> toilet....try to get your insurance to cover a drug like Viagra at

$11/pill for you. It won't. At

> all. Why, heavens to betsy, that would be off label distribution of an

unapproved FDA use of the

> drug....

>

> another thing. for any women seriously considering UAE, know up front

that Lupron is

> contraindicated.....in other words, you shouldn't use Lupron if you are

considering UAE...

>

> carla

>

> ...sorry to sound so snappy again...I'm having an " off " day....maybe

tomorrow will be better and I

> won't have such a short fuse then....

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi

I was anemic 5.2 hemoglobin I'm now 13.6 I was bleeding very badly. I

resisted taken the Lupron for about a month but the bleeding was so bad. For

ME the risk was worth it. I have a 17cm fibroid due for surgery 2/21

Re: lupron

> Out of sheer curiosity....how many of the women who are currently posting

about taking Lupron on this

> list are NOT anemic?

>

> I only ask because.....this drug is not FDA approved for " shrinking

fibroids " at all...only for

> dealing with pre-operative anemia. In other words, if you aren't anemic

and scheduled for surgery,

> you shouldn't be using the drug.

>

> Also, why would anyone need to take this drug prior to a hysterectomy?

Especially for a hysterectomy

> with the size of some of the fibroids I've been seeing posted on this

board of late. I've never quite

> understood why any gyn planning on doing a hyst anyway, would put a

patient who isn't even anemic,

> through the risk of Lupron. It boggles my mind.

>

> Just how inexperienced is a gyn who can't do a hyst on a 6 cm or 8 cm

fibroid uterus? I'm confused

> here.....because we're not exactly talking about monster

fibroids....watermelon size, etc......we're

> talking about small to average size fibroids.

>

> Sorry guys -- but the off label use of a product that's not even being

prescribed in a manner that

> might actually help a woman is not something I can get behind. At all.

Especially not at $600 a

> pop. That would be out of a kitty of insurance pool money that I pay into

too...and I'm not a very

> happy camper about how frivolously this cash is being tossed around by

gyns prescribing this drug.

>

> Oh, and sure, you can get Lupron, off label and outside of any clinical

trial, prior to your

> hysterectomy at $600 a shot....

>

> BUT....

>

> ...after your hysterectomy when/if you happen to be a patient who suffers

from blood flow problems

> and/or lessened intensity in orgasm and you're a little dismayed about

your sex life going down the

> toilet....try to get your insurance to cover a drug like Viagra at

$11/pill for you. It won't. At

> all. Why, heavens to betsy, that would be off label distribution of an

unapproved FDA use of the

> drug....

>

> another thing. for any women seriously considering UAE, know up front

that Lupron is

> contraindicated.....in other words, you shouldn't use Lupron if you are

considering UAE...

>

> carla

>

> ...sorry to sound so snappy again...I'm having an " off " day....maybe

tomorrow will be better and I

> won't have such a short fuse then....

>

>

>

>

>

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dear fran,

my obgyn said nothing to me about taking vitamin E if i experienced hot

flashes, to his defense he dosent know i am experiencing them. i go for shot

number 2 on feb 11th and i will mention it. when u say the 400 iu of vit E

helps your hot flashes what do you mean? are they not so intense or are you

having fewer hot flashes? are you only expiriencing hot flashes at night? i

am only getting them in the middle of the night.

thanks, laura

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dear fran,

my obgyn said nothing to me about taking vitamin E if i experienced hot

flashes, to his defense he dosent know i am experiencing them. i go for shot

number 2 on feb 11th and i will mention it. when u say the 400 iu of vit E

helps your hot flashes what do you mean? are they not so intense or are you

having fewer hot flashes? are you only expiriencing hot flashes at night? i

am only getting them in the middle of the night.

thanks, laura

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dear fran,

my obgyn said nothing to me about taking vitamin E if i experienced hot

flashes, to his defense he dosent know i am experiencing them. i go for shot

number 2 on feb 11th and i will mention it. when u say the 400 iu of vit E

helps your hot flashes what do you mean? are they not so intense or are you

having fewer hot flashes? are you only expiriencing hot flashes at night? i

am only getting them in the middle of the night.

thanks, laura

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carla,

isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to flow

to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during surgery,

whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my understanding.

yes my iron level is below normal.

laura

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carla,

isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to flow

to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during surgery,

whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my understanding.

yes my iron level is below normal.

laura

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--- Hi , I'm taking Lupron because Dr. said it will

restore my blood count, but I was very anemia and

have it controlled by Iron supps. But he wanted me to

take it any way because he said it helps with

controlling blood loss during surgury and it can

shrink them>

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--- Hi , I'm taking Lupron because Dr. said it will

restore my blood count, but I was very anemia and

have it controlled by Iron supps. But he wanted me to

take it any way because he said it helps with

controlling blood loss during surgury and it can

shrink them>

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hummingbird10458@... wrote:

> carla,

> isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to flow

> to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during surgery,

> whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my understanding.

> yes my iron level is below normal.

> laura

Lupron is used by docs for a whole lot of reasons that have NOT been proven to

be the case of efficacy

whatsoever in the medical literature nor proven to the FDA that it is worth the

trade off in risks for

women to take it for those reasons.

During surgery, doctors have other, APPROVED drugs they can use to inject into

the area to cut down on

bleeding. They do NOT need a patient to suffer through Lupron crap before the

surgery.

Here's a kicker on calcuations for you....after 6, $600 injections of

Lupron...guess what else you

could have done to stop the bleeding instead for much less the cost....UAE.

then you probably

wouldn't need the surgery....

I don't get it. Women are willing to allow a drug with KNOWN risk factors that

scare the bejeesus out

of me and most definitely result in irreversible osteoporosis if taken too long

into their bodies with

little question over the ethics or safety of it and yet many of those same women

are afraid of

polyvinyl alcohol particles going in and shutting off the blood supply to the

tumors. PVA is approved

for hypervascular tumors and has been around for several decades as a PROVEN

method of stopping tumor

growth and with little side effects and few complaints on file at the FDA. Even

though Lupron isn't

a

" permanent " implant, it can do harm that will most definitely be PERMANENT the

remainder of a woman's

life.

Now, for women choosing a myomectomy and needing something to help them get

pre-operative anemia under

control, okay. That's a reasonable ON LABEL use of the drug. Worth the risk

for most women who are

at that stage of anemia, from what I understand via communication coming

directly from the vast

majority of them.

But for hysterectomy? and when no anemia is present? I don't get it. I just

don't. What is the

point?

Carla

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hummingbird10458@... wrote:

> carla,

> isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to flow

> to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during surgery,

> whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my understanding.

> yes my iron level is below normal.

> laura

Lupron is used by docs for a whole lot of reasons that have NOT been proven to

be the case of efficacy

whatsoever in the medical literature nor proven to the FDA that it is worth the

trade off in risks for

women to take it for those reasons.

During surgery, doctors have other, APPROVED drugs they can use to inject into

the area to cut down on

bleeding. They do NOT need a patient to suffer through Lupron crap before the

surgery.

Here's a kicker on calcuations for you....after 6, $600 injections of

Lupron...guess what else you

could have done to stop the bleeding instead for much less the cost....UAE.

then you probably

wouldn't need the surgery....

I don't get it. Women are willing to allow a drug with KNOWN risk factors that

scare the bejeesus out

of me and most definitely result in irreversible osteoporosis if taken too long

into their bodies with

little question over the ethics or safety of it and yet many of those same women

are afraid of

polyvinyl alcohol particles going in and shutting off the blood supply to the

tumors. PVA is approved

for hypervascular tumors and has been around for several decades as a PROVEN

method of stopping tumor

growth and with little side effects and few complaints on file at the FDA. Even

though Lupron isn't

a

" permanent " implant, it can do harm that will most definitely be PERMANENT the

remainder of a woman's

life.

Now, for women choosing a myomectomy and needing something to help them get

pre-operative anemia under

control, okay. That's a reasonable ON LABEL use of the drug. Worth the risk

for most women who are

at that stage of anemia, from what I understand via communication coming

directly from the vast

majority of them.

But for hysterectomy? and when no anemia is present? I don't get it. I just

don't. What is the

point?

Carla

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Carla, Wow pretty intense. I know it is not the best for some and a lot of

different reasons. I had a lupron shot 10 years ago and not informed of

these side effects. I then had one 2 1/2 years ago also was not informed of

these side effects. At any rate I can't take them due to the horrible (side

effects), migraines. I am still searching other options to get rid of these

fibroids.

Thanks Libby

Re: lupron

hummingbird10458@... wrote:

> carla,

> isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to

flow

> to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during

surgery,

> whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my

understanding.

> yes my iron level is below normal.

> laura

Lupron is used by docs for a whole lot of reasons that have NOT been proven

to be the case of efficacy

whatsoever in the medical literature nor proven to the FDA that it is worth

the trade off in risks for

women to take it for those reasons.

During surgery, doctors have other, APPROVED drugs they can use to inject

into the area to cut down on

bleeding. They do NOT need a patient to suffer through Lupron crap before

the surgery.

Here's a kicker on calcuations for you....after 6, $600 injections of

Lupron...guess what else you

could have done to stop the bleeding instead for much less the cost....UAE.

then you probably

wouldn't need the surgery....

I don't get it. Women are willing to allow a drug with KNOWN risk factors

that scare the bejeesus out

of me and most definitely result in irreversible osteoporosis if taken too

long into their bodies with

little question over the ethics or safety of it and yet many of those same

women are afraid of

polyvinyl alcohol particles going in and shutting off the blood supply to

the tumors. PVA is approved

for hypervascular tumors and has been around for several decades as a PROVEN

method of stopping tumor

growth and with little side effects and few complaints on file at the FDA.

Even though Lupron isn't

a

" permanent " implant, it can do harm that will most definitely be PERMANENT

the remainder of a woman's

life.

Now, for women choosing a myomectomy and needing something to help them get

pre-operative anemia under

control, okay. That's a reasonable ON LABEL use of the drug. Worth the

risk for most women who are

at that stage of anemia, from what I understand via communication coming

directly from the vast

majority of them.

But for hysterectomy? and when no anemia is present? I don't get it. I

just don't. What is the

point?

Carla

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Carla, Wow pretty intense. I know it is not the best for some and a lot of

different reasons. I had a lupron shot 10 years ago and not informed of

these side effects. I then had one 2 1/2 years ago also was not informed of

these side effects. At any rate I can't take them due to the horrible (side

effects), migraines. I am still searching other options to get rid of these

fibroids.

Thanks Libby

Re: lupron

hummingbird10458@... wrote:

> carla,

> isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to

flow

> to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during

surgery,

> whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my

understanding.

> yes my iron level is below normal.

> laura

Lupron is used by docs for a whole lot of reasons that have NOT been proven

to be the case of efficacy

whatsoever in the medical literature nor proven to the FDA that it is worth

the trade off in risks for

women to take it for those reasons.

During surgery, doctors have other, APPROVED drugs they can use to inject

into the area to cut down on

bleeding. They do NOT need a patient to suffer through Lupron crap before

the surgery.

Here's a kicker on calcuations for you....after 6, $600 injections of

Lupron...guess what else you

could have done to stop the bleeding instead for much less the cost....UAE.

then you probably

wouldn't need the surgery....

I don't get it. Women are willing to allow a drug with KNOWN risk factors

that scare the bejeesus out

of me and most definitely result in irreversible osteoporosis if taken too

long into their bodies with

little question over the ethics or safety of it and yet many of those same

women are afraid of

polyvinyl alcohol particles going in and shutting off the blood supply to

the tumors. PVA is approved

for hypervascular tumors and has been around for several decades as a PROVEN

method of stopping tumor

growth and with little side effects and few complaints on file at the FDA.

Even though Lupron isn't

a

" permanent " implant, it can do harm that will most definitely be PERMANENT

the remainder of a woman's

life.

Now, for women choosing a myomectomy and needing something to help them get

pre-operative anemia under

control, okay. That's a reasonable ON LABEL use of the drug. Worth the

risk for most women who are

at that stage of anemia, from what I understand via communication coming

directly from the vast

majority of them.

But for hysterectomy? and when no anemia is present? I don't get it. I

just don't. What is the

point?

Carla

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Carla, Wow pretty intense. I know it is not the best for some and a lot of

different reasons. I had a lupron shot 10 years ago and not informed of

these side effects. I then had one 2 1/2 years ago also was not informed of

these side effects. At any rate I can't take them due to the horrible (side

effects), migraines. I am still searching other options to get rid of these

fibroids.

Thanks Libby

Re: lupron

hummingbird10458@... wrote:

> carla,

> isnt lupron used by doctors to soften the uterus and cause less blood to

flow

> to the area so that there will be less chance of blood loss during

surgery,

> whether it be hysterectomy or myomectomy? this was always my

understanding.

> yes my iron level is below normal.

> laura

Lupron is used by docs for a whole lot of reasons that have NOT been proven

to be the case of efficacy

whatsoever in the medical literature nor proven to the FDA that it is worth

the trade off in risks for

women to take it for those reasons.

During surgery, doctors have other, APPROVED drugs they can use to inject

into the area to cut down on

bleeding. They do NOT need a patient to suffer through Lupron crap before

the surgery.

Here's a kicker on calcuations for you....after 6, $600 injections of

Lupron...guess what else you

could have done to stop the bleeding instead for much less the cost....UAE.

then you probably

wouldn't need the surgery....

I don't get it. Women are willing to allow a drug with KNOWN risk factors

that scare the bejeesus out

of me and most definitely result in irreversible osteoporosis if taken too

long into their bodies with

little question over the ethics or safety of it and yet many of those same

women are afraid of

polyvinyl alcohol particles going in and shutting off the blood supply to

the tumors. PVA is approved

for hypervascular tumors and has been around for several decades as a PROVEN

method of stopping tumor

growth and with little side effects and few complaints on file at the FDA.

Even though Lupron isn't

a

" permanent " implant, it can do harm that will most definitely be PERMANENT

the remainder of a woman's

life.

Now, for women choosing a myomectomy and needing something to help them get

pre-operative anemia under

control, okay. That's a reasonable ON LABEL use of the drug. Worth the

risk for most women who are

at that stage of anemia, from what I understand via communication coming

directly from the vast

majority of them.

But for hysterectomy? and when no anemia is present? I don't get it. I

just don't. What is the

point?

Carla

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