Re: Details of today's TRUS prostate biopsy (thank God for painkillers!)

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My husband's ejaculate was quite red the first couple times. Slowly diminished!

Just wanted you to be prepared. I'd almost forgotten about that. So much has

happened since then. But we are doing good. I hope your biopsy is negative for

cancer

 

We joked about him finally taking his turn at having the monthly curse! Have a

towel handy!

 

dw

Subject: Details of today's TRUS prostate biopsy (thank

God for painkillers!)

To: malemedicalproblems , malemedicalproblemsgooglegroups,

ProstateCancerSupport

Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:51 PM

Of the 3 invasive tests I’ve had the last 15 months, today’s TRUS biopsy was

the most stressful (over which I’d lost the most sleep).  Both the

colonoscopy and cystoscopy were far more tolerable than I could possibly have

dreamed,  generally agreeing with st reports I’d read on various web sites.

But researching the prostate biopsy had turned up mixed results, with one

prostate cancer site’s description of each biopsy needle as feeling like a

hard kick in the ass each time the biopsy gun fired.   Fearing those

“kicks†I’d refused to sign the consent until my uro explained what pain

meds he’d first give me (lidocaine gel in the rectum and then long injections

of same into the base of the prostate, with the pain being about the same as

that for the pain shots my dentist gives before any serious dental work).  A

few minutes after the lidocaine shots, I felt no more pain and relaxed.

Urologists stretch the truth when they describe the ultrasound probe as being

the size of a finger, it’s more like the Jolly Green Giant’s finger!  See

the photo attached (also posted in our Yahoo group PHOTOS in the !Prostate

Biopsy! album). 

My uro took 5 biopsies from each lobe of the prostate, for a total of 10.  I

heard each “pop†but felt no pain, except each felt like something hot was

shooting out of my penis.  Nothing painful at all, but I’ll bet it would have

hurt like hell without those lidocaine injections.

When I arrived home, my pee was slightly red colored with bood, which the doc

said would be the case (also my stool and ejaculate) for a few days up to a

month or two.  Now I'll see if my balls and my prostate start aching, which

usually is the case for a few days.

Stay tuned.

BigCrix on Yahoo messenger

[Guest guest]

:

 

My husband's ejaculate was quite red the first couple times. Slowly diminished!

Just wanted you to be prepared. I'd almost forgotten about that. So much has

happened since then. But we are doing good. I hope your biopsy is negative for

cancer

 

We joked about him finally taking his turn at having the monthly curse! Have a

towel handy!

 

dw

Subject: Details of today's TRUS prostate biopsy (thank

God for painkillers!)

To: malemedicalproblems , malemedicalproblemsgooglegroups,

ProstateCancerSupport

Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:51 PM

Of the 3 invasive tests I’ve had the last 15 months, today’s TRUS biopsy was

the most stressful (over which I’d lost the most sleep).  Both the

colonoscopy and cystoscopy were far more tolerable than I could possibly have

dreamed,  generally agreeing with st reports I’d read on various web sites.

But researching the prostate biopsy had turned up mixed results, with one

prostate cancer site’s description of each biopsy needle as feeling like a

hard kick in the ass each time the biopsy gun fired.   Fearing those

“kicks†I’d refused to sign the consent until my uro explained what pain

meds he’d first give me (lidocaine gel in the rectum and then long injections

of same into the base of the prostate, with the pain being about the same as

that for the pain shots my dentist gives before any serious dental work).  A

few minutes after the lidocaine shots, I felt no more pain and relaxed.

Urologists stretch the truth when they describe the ultrasound probe as being

the size of a finger, it’s more like the Jolly Green Giant’s finger!  See

the photo attached (also posted in our Yahoo group PHOTOS in the !Prostate

Biopsy! album). 

My uro took 5 biopsies from each lobe of the prostate, for a total of 10.  I

heard each “pop†but felt no pain, except each felt like something hot was

shooting out of my penis.  Nothing painful at all, but I’ll bet it would have

hurt like hell without those lidocaine injections.

When I arrived home, my pee was slightly red colored with bood, which the doc

said would be the case (also my stool and ejaculate) for a few days up to a

month or two.  Now I'll see if my balls and my prostate start aching, which

usually is the case for a few days.

Stay tuned.

BigCrix on Yahoo messenger

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> Of the 3 invasive tests Iíve had the last 15 months, todayís TRUS biopsy

> was the most stressful (over which Iíd lost the most sleep). Both the

> colonoscopy and cystoscopy were far more tolerable than I could possibly

> have dreamed, generally agreeing with st reports Iíd read on various

> web sites.

>

> But researching the prostate biopsy had turned up mixed results, with

> one prostate cancer siteís description of each biopsy needle as feeling

> like a hard kick in the ass each time the biopsy gun fired. Fearing

> those ìkicksî Iíd refused to sign the consent until my uro explained

> what pain meds heíd first give me (lidocaine gel in the rectum and then

> long injections of same into the base of the prostate, with the pain

> being about the same as that for the pain shots my dentist gives before

> any serious dental work). A few minutes after the lidocaine shots, I

> felt no more pain and relaxed.

And there are the macho-men who claim that it was nothing, nothing at

all, la-de-da.

Phooey.

Patients have a legal right to pain relief; at least in my home state.

was quite right to demand it.

I have to wonder about those uros (and there are some) who don't

" believe " in anesthesia for biopsies. Related to Tomås de Torquemada,

perhaps. He, BTW, was the chief inquisitor/torturer of the Spanish

Inquisition.

Regards,

Steve J

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,I was not fully prepared for the bloody ejaculate after the biopsy. It was just like I had cut myself. It looked the consistency of the period of a woman. Got smart and used a towel the second time around. They gave me something to sleep and woke me up about 15 minutes later. I never knew it had been done except that I was on my back instead of my side with my butt hanging off the edge of the gurney.Steve S in Arkansas Details of today's TRUS prostate biopsy (thank God for painkillers!)

Of the 3 invasive tests I’ve had the last 15 months, today’s TRUS biopsy was the most stressful (over which I’d lost the most sleep). Both the colonoscopy and cystoscopy were far more tolerable than I could possibly have dreamed, generally agreeing with st reports I’d read on various web sites.But

researching the prostate biopsy had turned up mixed results, with one prostate cancer site’s description of each biopsy needle as feeling like a hard kick in the ass each time the biopsy gun fired. Fearing those “kicks” I’d refused to sign the consent until my uro explained what pain meds he’d first give me (lidocaine gel in the rectum and then long injections of same into the base of the prostate, with the pain being about the same as that for the pain shots my dentist gives before any serious dental work). A few minutes after the lidocaine shots, I felt no more pain and relaxed.Urologists stretch the truth when they describe the ultrasound probe as being the size of a finger, it’s more like the Jolly Green Giant’s finger! See the photo attached (also posted in our Yahoo group PHOTOS in the !Prostate Biopsy! album). My uro took 5 biopsies from each lobe of the prostate, for a total of

10. I heard each “pop” but felt no pain, except each felt like something hot was shooting out of my penis. Nothing painful at all, but I’ll bet it would have hurt like hell without those lidocaine injections.When I arrived home, my pee was slightly red colored with bood, which the doc said would be the case (also my stool and ejaculate) for a few days up to a month or two. Now I'll see if my balls and my prostate start aching, which usually is the case for a few days.Stay tuned.BigCrix on Yahoo messenger

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For my biopsy I did not have any pain medication other than the lidocain gel to provide a very localized anesthetic effect. The uro had me lie on a table, on my side, and face the wall as he prepared the "gun". He had a nurse in the room with us and as he bagan to collect the samples he handed each one to her for close examination and sorting into the vessels for transportation to the lab. He said he was going to collect 16 samples.

Of course, each time the gun went off I registered the count. When we got to 12 he asked the nurse how many samples she had. I blurted out, "12", but she responded, "9". I protested but she said that not all of the samples were suitable based on her scrutiny and only 9 samples were viable. The doctor had to collect 22 samples to get 16 keepers.

After the collection process I asked about any limitations and he said to take it easy that night (I had the procedure at about 4:00 pm) and return to normal activities the next day. I went to work the next morning, no problem, but then went for a 15 mile bike ride after work. The bike ride was a mistake. It hurt every time I hit a seam in the pavement and I am sure it contribued to a greater than normal flow of blood into my urine stream and ejaculate. When I went back to see him about my results (Yeah, PC diagnosis with 2 positive samples and a Gleason of 7...3+4) I mentioned my bike ride and he looked at me as though I was crazy. I reminded him that he said it was ok to return to normal activities the day after the biopsy and he laughed good naturedly and said he thought it so obvious that no one would ride a bike after the biopsy that he never mentioned it.

End result (hope it's the end) is that I had a nerve sparing RP at Northwestern Medical Cener in Chicago with Dr. Nadler at the controls of the DaVinci in September 2007. Great results with which I am very pleased. I regained complete bladder control within two weeks of the catheter removal. I went over three months with no erections but did participate in an agressive rehab program under Dr. Nadler's care and instruction. Limited functionality returned at the fourth month out and improved pretty rapidly from there. I will go back for my one year checkup in September and am very nearly back to where I was pre-surgery. I am very satisfied with my progress and current condition and consider myself very fortunate.

I also give mega props to the nurses who introduced me to kegals several months BEFORE the surgery. I did lots of kegals every day for about 3 months before having surgery which really helped both my bladder control and, in my mind anyway, return to sexual functioning. I still do at least one set of kegals every day and sometimes two sets. I can complete a set of 20 winks, 20 squeeze and holds and 20 more winks in less than 5 minutes. Gives me something constructive to do in meetings.

Best regards.

Subject: Details of today's TRUS prostate biopsy (thank God for painkillers!)To: malemedicalproblems , malemedicalproblemsgooglegroups, ProstateCancerSupport Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 4:51 PM

Of the 3 invasive tests I’ve had the last 15 months, today’s TRUS biopsy was the most stressful (over which I’d lost the most sleep). Both the colonoscopy and cystoscopy were far more tolerable than I could possibly have dreamed, generally agreeing with st reports I’d read on various web sites.But researching the prostate biopsy had turned up mixed results, with one prostate cancer site’s description of each biopsy needle as feeling like a hard kick in the ass each time the biopsy gun fired. Fearing those “kicks” I’d refused to sign the consent until my uro explained what pain meds he’d first give me (lidocaine gel in the rectum and then long injections of same into the base of the prostate, with the pain being about the same as that for the pain shots my dentist gives before any serious dental work). A few minutes after the lidocaine shots, I felt no more

pain and relaxed.Urologists stretch the truth when they describe the ultrasound probe as being the size of a finger, it’s more like the Jolly Green Giant’s finger! See the photo attached (also posted in our Yahoo group PHOTOS in the !Prostate Biopsy! album). My uro took 5 biopsies from each lobe of the prostate, for a total of 10. I heard each “pop” but felt no pain, except each felt like something hot was shooting out of my penis. Nothing painful at all, but I’ll bet it would have hurt like hell without those lidocaine injections.When I arrived home, my pee was slightly red colored with bood, which the doc said would be the case (also my stool and ejaculate) for a few days up to a month or two. Now I'll see if my balls and my prostate start aching, which usually is the case for a few days.Stay tuned.BigCrix on Yahoo

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