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Larry wrote:

> Actually, forgive me. I just reread your post and you do list

> the immunoassay as different. I also had 2 different

> immunoassays, and found out that the average difference

> between them was approx. 23%. If you do some searches, you

> can find the material I referred to and perhaps find out more.

It looks like Larry actually did some research before posting

whereas I, following the true Internet tradition, spoke from

ignorance.

I take back what I said in my posting that the differences only

appear after the decimal point. I was wrong.

Following Larry's advice, I did a search on Google for the

terms:

psa immunoassay difference

The top result was:

http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/43/12/2426

The research published on that web page indicated that, when the

study was done in 1996, there was indeed a great deal of

variability in the different methods. Variability existed

between different tests using different methods, and between

different tests using the same method, though the different

method variablility was much greater. There was variability

between total PSA test results, and even greater variability

between percentage free PSA test results.

Precision of the results was worst for very low PSA values, but

was pretty bad even for higher values.

The URL above provides the summarized data in tables and graphs,

together with some analysis.

I don't know if the situation has improved since 1996.

----

In light of this, I retract the comments I made in my earlier

response to Larry's question about variability in PSA tests.

However I still stand by the advice to 1) seek professional

advice and 2) consider primary treatment now.

If the 16.6 PSA value that Larry received is off by as much as

30%, then his true PSA at the time was likely somewhere in the

range between 12 - 21. It's still enough to put him above the

" low risk " category, as is his Gleason 7 (assuming that it's

accurate) and his 9 of 12 cores positive (assuming that's

accurate). So there are several independent measures, each of

which indicates that his risk of death from PCA is not " low " .

A doctor should be consulted, not an Internet bumbler like

myself. But I suspect the doctor will say that it's time to get

treatment.

Alan

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Alan Meyer wrote:

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> In light of this, I retract the comments I made in my earlier

> response to Larry's question about variability in PSA tests.

....

> If the 16.6 PSA value that Larry received is off by ...

....

Oops.

I should have said " Jeff " , not " Larry " in the above sentences.

Alan

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