Re: Starting Met DENNIS- WHY?

[Guest guest]

Just out of curiosity do you know what the price difference is between the

pills and Injectable? Does it come with the needles or do you purchase

separate? And where can you inject it??

In a message dated 3/8/2008 12:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betnden@... writes:

I've read many posts from members that are having trouble with their dosage

of MTX pills. Bad effects seem to be the norm and you ladies (mostly) suffer

without knowing what to do to make it better to take them. What is the

reason for suffering like that when the liquid form is so much easier and

much less expensive? For a number of years I took it in a glass of orange

juice or other breakfast drink without problems, but now that I'm taking a

larger dose, I have to inject it. That's easier than trying to remember to

take them spread out during a hectic day. It's a lot cheaper and without the

normal side effects you all are suffering. This is something to talk with

your Rheumy about, it could be a Godsend. And, make sure you are taking the

appropriate amount of Folic Acid, it's a MUST!

Dennis in eastexas- sticking my nose in---

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From: " Pedro Gamez " <_mapgamez@..._ (mailto:mapgamez@...) >

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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:36 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Starting Methatrexate

> thank you mandi.maybe i will try the same!! melyndagamez wrote:3/7/08

> 10:48p.m.central time

>

> _MLH951@..._ (mailto:MLH951@...) wrote: Sure but in my case I

attribute that to

> mommy brain (I have a soon to be 2yr

> old)!! LOL So far just sick to my stomach and a little fatigue is all I've

> felt with 6 pills but like I said I feel ok today after splitting the

> dose,

> so maybe Ive found a way around the effects!!

>

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 10:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> _mapgamez@..._ (mailto:mapgamez@...) writes:

>

> hi mandy,when you took 6 pills of mtx,what kind of effects did it have on

> you besides being TIRED? i take 7 pills every friday,but at the same

> time.no

> folic acid though!! i take sooooo MANY MEDS ,im not sure what pills

> excactly

> make me SICK!! im soo CONFUSED & i lose my train of thought sometimes,has

> this

> ever happened to you mandi or anyone else on mtx??? melyndagamez wrote:

>

> __MLH951aol (DOT) _ML_ (mailto:_MLH951@...) _ (mailto:_MLH951@..._

(mailto:MLH951@...) ) wrote: I was taking 4 pills at

> night and had little side effects but when I was

> bumped up to 6 I felt very sick and tired for days. My Ru's office said I

> could

> split the dose so last night I took 3 pills and then 12 hours later took

> the

> other 3 which was 10 am...today was the least amount of side effects I've

> felt since starting one month ago.

>

> Mandi

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 5:09:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> __Jolenefive@_Jolene_ (mailto:_Jolenefive@...) _ (

mailto:_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) ) writes:

>

> Can people tell me what is better to take the methatrexate at night or in

> the morning. I am starting

> either tonight or tommorrow.

>

> Thank you

>

> JOlene

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I know I'm not dennis but my vial of mtx cost me around $21.00 and lasts me a

little over a month. I had to get the syringes myself, but my insurance covered

them. However they did not cover the mtx. It took me about 2 months to get

them to cover the enbrel so I decided to just eat the $21.00 a month for the

mtx.

Re: [ ] Starting Methatrexate

> thank you mandi.maybe i will try the same!! melyndagamez wrote:3/7/08

> 10:48p.m.central time

>

> _MLH951@..._ (mailto:MLH951@...) wrote: Sure but in my case I

attribute that to

> mommy brain (I have a soon to be 2yr

> old)!! LOL So far just sick to my stomach and a little fatigue is all I've

> felt with 6 pills but like I said I feel ok today after splitting the

> dose,

> so maybe Ive found a way around the effects!!

>

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 10:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> _mapgamez@..._ (mailto:mapgamez@...) writes:

>

> hi mandy,when you took 6 pills of mtx,what kind of effects did it have on

> you besides being TIRED? i take 7 pills every friday,but at the same

> time.no

> folic acid though!! i take sooooo MANY MEDS ,im not sure what pills

> excactly

> make me SICK!! im soo CONFUSED & i lose my train of thought sometimes,has

> this

> ever happened to you mandi or anyone else on mtx??? melyndagamez wrote:

>

> __MLH951aol (DOT) _ML_ (mailto:_MLH951@...) _ (mailto:_MLH951@..._

(mailto:MLH951@...) ) wrote: I was taking 4 pills at

> night and had little side effects but when I was

> bumped up to 6 I felt very sick and tired for days. My Ru's office said I

> could

> split the dose so last night I took 3 pills and then 12 hours later took

> the

> other 3 which was 10 am...today was the least amount of side effects I've

> felt since starting one month ago.

>

> Mandi

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 5:09:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> __Jolenefive@_Jolene_ (mailto:_Jolenefive@...) _ (

mailto:_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) ) writes:

>

> Can people tell me what is better to take the methatrexate at night or in

> the morning. I am starting

> either tonight or tommorrow.

>

> Thank you

>

> JOlene

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Maybe its just me, but I have never had any problems taking mine, no side

effects or anything, I take 5 pills a week and take all 5 at one time on Sat

mornings. One inject once every 2 weeks is more than enough for me and the

husband has to give me it cause I cannot do it myself. I do get allergy shots

once a week though, but go to the doc for those also

In a message dated 3/8/2008 1:41:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,

renandstimpy3@... writes:

I know I'm not dennis but my vial of mtx cost me around $21.00 and lasts me

a little over a month. I had to get the syringes myself, but my insurance

covered them. However they did not cover the mtx. It took me about 2 months

to get them to cover the enbrel so I decided to just eat the $21.00 a month

for the mtx.

Re: [ ] Starting Methatrexate

> thank you mandi.maybe i will try the same!! melyndagamez wrote:3/7/08

> 10:48p.m.central time

>

> _MLH951@..._ (mailto:MLH951@...) wrote: Sure but in my case I

attribute that to

> mommy brain (I have a soon to be 2yr

> old)!! LOL So far just sick to my stomach and a little fatigue is all I've

> felt with 6 pills but like I said I feel ok today after splitting the

> dose,

> so maybe Ive found a way around the effects!!

>

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 10:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> _mapgamez@..._ (mailto:mapgamez@...) writes:

>

> hi mandy,when you took 6 pills of mtx,what kind of effects did it have on

> you besides being TIRED? i take 7 pills every friday,but at the same

> time.no

> folic acid though!! i take sooooo MANY MEDS ,im not sure what pills

> excactly

> make me SICK!! im soo CONFUSED & i lose my train of thought sometimes,has

> this

> ever happened to you mandi or anyone else on mtx??? melyndagamez wrote:

>

> __MLH951aol (DOT) _ML_ (mailto:_MLH951@...) _ (mailto:_MLH951@..._

(mailto:MLH951@...) ) wrote: I was taking 4 pills at

> night and had little side effects but when I was

> bumped up to 6 I felt very sick and tired for days. My Ru's office said I

> could

> split the dose so last night I took 3 pills and then 12 hours later took

> the

> other 3 which was 10 am...today was the least amount of side effects I've

> felt since starting one month ago.

>

> Mandi

>

> In a message dated 3/7/2008 5:09:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> __Jolenefive@_Jolene_ (mailto:_Jolenefive@...) _ (

mailto:_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) ) writes:

>

> Can people tell me what is better to take the methatrexate at night or in

> the morning. I am starting

> either tonight or tommorrow.

>

> Thank you

>

> JOlene

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When I first started MTX in 1990, the tabs were $3 each, paid out-of-pocket,

3 per week. Then it increased to $4 each and later raised to 4 per week. It

then went up to $5 each and I was to start taking 5 per week. That's when I

put my foot down. I simply couldn't afford them since I didn't have SSD or a

job. My Rheumy called the pharmacy at the hospital to check on the price of

liquid MTX that I could take orally. It was $4.64 per 2cc vial or 2 vials

for $5.45! I was absolutely dumbfounded when I considered what I had been

paying for the pills and the things we sacrificed to pay for them.

Zooming ahead to now, I've gone from .8cc per week to the 'max' of 1.2cc

injected sub-Q. I'm getting the meds from my local WalMart pharmacy and get

either 6 or 12 vials, depending on who's filling the order. Technically, I

can only take 1.2cc from each vial and discard the rest because there are no

preservatives. The total price for these vials is around $29 per order.

That's a lot less than the $21 per vial mentioned by . I'd be on a

shopping quest before giving in to that 'theft'. I inject mine on Saturday

night when we fill our pill cases for the coming week, and put it in my

stomach, leg, arm, or any other handy spot that doesn't hurt. I've also

never had a noticeable side effect except when the Rummy at the hospital

increased the MTX and not the Folic Acid, so my tongue swelled to fill my

mouth and made it hard for me to talk. Right now, I'm taking 3-5mg Folic

Acid, and my tongue is permanently swelled and stiffer than before, all

because the Rummy and his 'nurse' didn't think or do. And I'm back with my

original Rheumy and doing well again.

Dennis in eastexas

Re: [ ] Starting Methatrexate

>

>> thank you mandi.maybe i will try the same!! melyndagamez wrote:3/7/08

>> 10:48p.m.central time

>>

>> _MLH951@..._ (mailto:MLH951@...) wrote: Sure but in my case I

> attribute that to

>> mommy brain (I have a soon to be 2yr

>> old)!! LOL So far just sick to my stomach and a little fatigue is all

>> I've

>> felt with 6 pills but like I said I feel ok today after splitting the

>> dose,

>> so maybe Ive found a way around the effects!!

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 3/7/2008 10:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> _mapgamez@..._ (mailto:mapgamez@...) writes:

>>

>> hi mandy,when you took 6 pills of mtx,what kind of effects did it have

>> on

>> you besides being TIRED? i take 7 pills every friday,but at the same

>> time.no

>> folic acid though!! i take sooooo MANY MEDS ,im not sure what pills

>> excactly

>> make me SICK!! im soo CONFUSED & i lose my train of thought

>> sometimes,has

>> this

>> ever happened to you mandi or anyone else on mtx??? melyndagamez wrote:

>>

>> __MLH951aol (DOT) _ML_ (mailto:_MLH951@...) _ (mailto:_MLH951@..._

> (mailto:MLH951@...) ) wrote: I was taking 4 pills at

>> night and had little side effects but when I was

>> bumped up to 6 I felt very sick and tired for days. My Ru's office said

>> I

>> could

>> split the dose so last night I took 3 pills and then 12 hours later took

>> the

>> other 3 which was 10 am...today was the least amount of side effects

>> I've

>> felt since starting one month ago.

>>

>> Mandi

>>

>> In a message dated 3/7/2008 5:09:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> __Jolenefive@_Jolene_ (mailto:_Jolenefive@...) _ (

> mailto:_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) ) writes:

>>

>> Can people tell me what is better to take the methatrexate at night or

>> in

>> the morning. I am starting

>> either tonight or tommorrow.

>>

>> Thank you

>>

>> JOlene

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My insurance will not cover MTX in the injectable form. Now, I rarely have

side effects unless I go over one week between doses.

Kate G

Hashi's

AS

At 01:58 PM 3/8/2008, you wrote:

>Just out of curiosity do you know what the price difference is between the

>pills and Injectable? Does it come with the needles or do you purchase

>separate? And where can you inject it??

[Guest guest]

My ins. covers both. I use the inject. type as the pills made me so sick every

day, etc.

The dr. gives me a prescrip. for the needles and MTX ,as I inject myself each

week. I usually use my thighs, alternating each side. Hope this helps.

I don't know the diff. in price.

Re: [ ] Starting Met DENNIS- WHY?

My insurance will not cover MTX in the injectable form. Now, I rarely have

side effects unless I go over one week between doses.

Kate G

Hashi's

AS

At 01:58 PM 3/8/2008, you wrote:

>Just out of curiosity do you know what the price difference is between the

>pills and Injectable? Does it come with the needles or do you purchase

>separate? And where can you inject it??

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