Introduction

[Guest guest]

I would usually recommend reading Overcoming Overeating first, but

seeing how you have so much practice of your own already, then the

Intuitive Eating book written by Elyse Resch & Tribole would

most likely be much better for you. I think you might find that it can

expand your understanding as well as further direct your efforts? Best

wishes Katcha

> Any books you recommend.

> Andi

> domestic goddess and active volunteer

[Guest guest]

Robin what a marvelous accomplishment you have achieved already so

far. I am glad you are giving IE a go as it probably is your best

chance to keep yourself at your normal weight. The F & F workbook is

also a very good tool for helping in this effort. Keep us posted and

welcome! - Katcha

> >

> > Hi!

> > I wanted to take a minute to introduce myself to the group. I just

> > recently started to implement some of the IE principles into my

> > lifestyle and so far I'm loving it. I'm at a very comfortable

> > weight right now (thanks to Weight WAtchers) but I'm so tired of the

> > yo-yo dieting and the feelings of guilt for " cheating " . I really

> > just want to enjoy food and not be so obsessed with dieting,

> > exercise, etc. I've been reading the Intuitive Eating book little

> > by little and I can't believe how much I'm learning about myself.

> > At first I thought it would be easy to let go of the dieting

> > mentality, but it turns out that I'm really terrified. I've only

> > let myself go so far with indulging in my cravings...definitely the

> > first thing I need to work on. I'm so scared that I'll let my

> > weight go above 150lbs (it was a huge accomplishment to get below

> > that for me....especially after giving birth 15 months ago!). Prior

> > to IE I was 6 lbs less than my pre-pregnancy weight. I can't wait

> > to get rid of my scale and let go of the number game...I know I'll

> > get there eventually. I look forward to hearing from you all and

> > visiting often for inspiration and feedback!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Katcha,

> I have never read any books on this IE idea. I kind of came up with

> it myself. I decided that depriving myself just made me feel bad ad

> want to hide what i was eating and eat more of it.

Hi there, you sound a lot like me . I lost some weight in 95 'accidentally' -

eating whatever I

wanted til I had enough - after years of dieting and deprivation but no

sustained weight loss.

Shortly after that happened I married a normal IE eater and the pieces began to

fit. I realised

what I had done without knowing it and was able to then do it intentionally.

Ivy

[Guest guest]

It will seem that way for a while Robin and six months ago I was scared like you but now my body has gotten used to it and it is responding well. EvaSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

It will seem that way for a while Robin and six months ago I was scared like you but now my body has gotten used to it and it is responding well. EvaSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin, You are an inspiration. How did you know when you were at the weight you wanted to be at. People keep asking me my goal and my goal has never been about weight loss and now that I am thinking - ohh i want to say i lost 100 lbs it is getting harder. It has always been about eating healthy. I will check out the book. Thanks Andidomestic goddess and active volunteerSave our planet; it's the only one with chocolate! I can really relate with your story. I too am new to this group and IE. I too am at my ideal weight now of 135lbs. I used to weigh 333lbs. I lost 198lbs and have kept it off for over 6 years. I thought I had this whole weight thing beat but about a year ago I really started struggling. I have been up and down about 20lbs over the year. Bingeing to gain the weight and starving myself to lose it. I am now at a point where I have to stop the cycle before I go mad. I have been reading the book "The Food and Feelings Workbook: A Full Course Meal on Emotional Health" by R. Koenig and following IE for 4 days now and am amazed that it is working. I thought I was addicted to carbs but have been able to not overeat them these last few days. It's scarry because I too am afraid of gaining back any weight. I am really comfortable at this weight and have been either dieting or bingeing my whole life. The thought of really eating like a normal person and not giving food so much importance is something that seems a little like a dream.Robin>> Hi!> I wanted to take a minute to introduce myself to the group. I just > recently started to implement some of the IE principles into my > lifestyle and so far I'm loving it. I'm at a very comfortable > weight right now (thanks to Weight WAtchers) but I'm so tired of the > yo-yo dieting and the feelings of guilt for "cheating". I really > just want to enjoy food and not be so obsessed with dieting, > exercise, etc. I've been reading the Intuitive Eating book little > by little and I can't believe how much I'm learning about myself. > At first I thought it would be easy to let go of the dieting > mentality, but it turns out that I'm really terrified. I've only > let myself go so far with indulging in my cravings...definitely the > first thing I need to work on. I'm so scared that I'll let my > weight go above 150lbs (it was a huge accomplishment to get below > that for me....especially after giving birth 15 months ago!). Prior > to IE I was 6 lbs less than my pre-pregnancy weight. I can't wait > to get rid of my scale and let go of the number game...I know I'll > get there eventually. I look forward to hearing from you all and > visiting often for inspiration and feedback!> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin, You are an inspiration. How did you know when you were at the weight you wanted to be at. People keep asking me my goal and my goal has never been about weight loss and now that I am thinking - ohh i want to say i lost 100 lbs it is getting harder. It has always been about eating healthy. I will check out the book. Thanks Andidomestic goddess and active volunteerSave our planet; it's the only one with chocolate! I can really relate with your story. I too am new to this group and IE. I too am at my ideal weight now of 135lbs. I used to weigh 333lbs. I lost 198lbs and have kept it off for over 6 years. I thought I had this whole weight thing beat but about a year ago I really started struggling. I have been up and down about 20lbs over the year. Bingeing to gain the weight and starving myself to lose it. I am now at a point where I have to stop the cycle before I go mad. I have been reading the book "The Food and Feelings Workbook: A Full Course Meal on Emotional Health" by R. Koenig and following IE for 4 days now and am amazed that it is working. I thought I was addicted to carbs but have been able to not overeat them these last few days. It's scarry because I too am afraid of gaining back any weight. I am really comfortable at this weight and have been either dieting or bingeing my whole life. The thought of really eating like a normal person and not giving food so much importance is something that seems a little like a dream.Robin>> Hi!> I wanted to take a minute to introduce myself to the group. I just > recently started to implement some of the IE principles into my > lifestyle and so far I'm loving it. I'm at a very comfortable > weight right now (thanks to Weight WAtchers) but I'm so tired of the > yo-yo dieting and the feelings of guilt for "cheating". I really > just want to enjoy food and not be so obsessed with dieting, > exercise, etc. I've been reading the Intuitive Eating book little > by little and I can't believe how much I'm learning about myself. > At first I thought it would be easy to let go of the dieting > mentality, but it turns out that I'm really terrified. I've only > let myself go so far with indulging in my cravings...definitely the > first thing I need to work on. I'm so scared that I'll let my > weight go above 150lbs (it was a huge accomplishment to get below > that for me....especially after giving birth 15 months ago!). Prior > to IE I was 6 lbs less than my pre-pregnancy weight. I can't wait > to get rid of my scale and let go of the number game...I know I'll > get there eventually. I look forward to hearing from you all and > visiting often for inspiration and feedback!> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the book ideas. I had read Overcoming Overeating a long time ago and it didnt make sense then but I guess I held on to some of the ideas. I will check out the other book. ThanksI guess I have been doing this intuitively, I have been doing what feels right for me and what works for me.  Andidomestic goddess and active volunteerSave our planet; it's the only one with chocolate! I would usually recommend reading Overcoming Overeating first, butseeing how you have so much practice of your own already, then theIntuitive Eating book written by Elyse Resch & Tribole wouldmost likely be much better for you. I think you might find that it canexpand your understanding as well as further direct your efforts? Bestwishes Katcha> Any books you recommend.> Andi> domestic goddess and active volunteer

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the book ideas. I had read Overcoming Overeating a long time ago and it didnt make sense then but I guess I held on to some of the ideas. I will check out the other book. ThanksI guess I have been doing this intuitively, I have been doing what feels right for me and what works for me.  Andidomestic goddess and active volunteerSave our planet; it's the only one with chocolate! I would usually recommend reading Overcoming Overeating first, butseeing how you have so much practice of your own already, then theIntuitive Eating book written by Elyse Resch & Tribole wouldmost likely be much better for you. I think you might find that it canexpand your understanding as well as further direct your efforts? Bestwishes Katcha> Any books you recommend.> Andi> domestic goddess and active volunteer

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Laurie,

I really liked what you wrote in your blog -- it's kind of a new angle

on the emotional eating thing. It was kind of an " aha " for me --- to

think about why I'm eating a particular food -- what feeling am I

seeking, and to try to give that specific thing to myself with

something other than food.

shared.

>

> In today's post I talked about the connection between emotion and

> food...funny....before ND/intuitive eating I didn't even realize that

there

> WAS a connection. I'm pasting today's blog post below...maybe it will

be an

> insight for someone. :-)

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Laurie,

I really liked what you wrote in your blog -- it's kind of a new angle

on the emotional eating thing. It was kind of an " aha " for me --- to

think about why I'm eating a particular food -- what feeling am I

seeking, and to try to give that specific thing to myself with

something other than food.

shared.

>

> In today's post I talked about the connection between emotion and

> food...funny....before ND/intuitive eating I didn't even realize that

there

> WAS a connection. I'm pasting today's blog post below...maybe it will

be an

> insight for someone. :-)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone - I have posted a few questions in the forum but have not formally

introduced myself or my mom. Mom was diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in MN in October

with LBD. I had taken her there because she had declined rapidly in a couple of

months - she went from being able to live by herself in her own home to no

longer being able to care for herself.

I moved her into assisted living in her home town in the Upper Peninsula of MI

in early Dec - I had been there taking care of her since October until a place

opened up. She didn't like it there but was doing fine - socializing, eating,

doing PT and OT - she had 1 hour of care a day which was for the shower and

getting dressed in the am.

Late Jan she started to become paranoid - she could hear my voice in the hallway

at the assisted living place - and I was always with a " bad man " . This got

progressively worse over a couple of days until 3 weeks ago on a Friday she

started hitting her head against a wall and being angry and combative. The

assisted living place called me and I had her in-town caretaker go over (I live

in Boston) to see if she could calm her down, but she couldn't. I had the

assisted living place call 911 and they brought her into the ER and then

admitted her to the hospital. My husband and I were lucky to get a flight that

evening and arrived in Michigan about midnight. I stayed with her that night,

and although she was highly paranoid, she was still " there " cognitively.

The town she lives in is a very small town with a county hospital, so they have

no psych unit and no geriatric speciality. It took about a week but she calmed

down (mostly because she was overly medicated) on 100 mg Serequal spread over a

day (for the paranoia) and .25mg Xanax 4 times a day (for the high agitation).

Last Tuesday she and I flew out to Boston with a hired RN. She is now at Belmont

Manor in Belmont, MA.

They started to lower the dose of the xanax last week, and we'll see what

happens this coming week. She can now no longer feed herself or walk and is

completely incontinent. She is combative (and yelling) with any type of personal

care. She does not always acknowledge that I am there and does not understand

that she has been moved. She can go from being weepy to angry to scared in a

matter of minutes, and then the cycle will start again.

I believe that she understood her diagnosis, and I don't know if that is causing

some of these behaviours or if this is just the disease or the medication.

There's so much more but this is a start. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

,

I'm glad you now have your mom near you. If nothing else, think of the

airfare you'll save.

As dementia goes, I observed in my mom's unit that most residents didn't

know, didn't care or forgot about their geographic location. When you

noted that you believe your mom understands her diagnosis, I was reminded

of my mom who, when told we were on our way back to see the

neuropsychiatrist who had given her the dementia (LBD and more) diagnosis,

responded " Oh! I forgot I had dementia! "

Yes, a big part of your mom's behavior could be frustration over her

diagnosis or simply over not being able to do things that were once simple

for her - not being able to control her life as she once had. I often

thought that it would be so much easier if LBD were truly progressive,

rather than as cyclic as it is. It's that occasional cognitive moment that

I think is torture for the patient - when she realizes what is going on and

is frustrated, frightened and angry. Who could blame her? Actually, I was

glad Mom rebelled against what was happening to her. I knew she was still

there - still the strong woman who raised me. Eventually, though, with

time and the right medication (or removal of the wrong medication) she

reached a level of acceptance, if not comfort. And, when she realizes that

you are there often and haven't withdrawn your love, care or pride in her,

it could get better. Also, I worked very directly with the dementia unit

staff, from CNA to nurse to activity leader to therapist to administrator

to find ways to help Mom adjust. I think that made a big difference, if

only because I was a " squeaky wheel. "

It could take a while, but your mom will come around. Be sure you have an

outlet for your own frustration and the plethora of feelings you will

experience. I actually started seeing a counselor myself and it was a big

help. Early on, I also took up kickboxing, which was a great way to get

frustrations out. I only stopped doing that after back surgery. (taking

care of yourself is hugely important)

You're doing the right thing, , it just takes time.

Kate

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, phoenixrising1961 wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi everyone - I have posted a few questions in the forum but have not

> formally introduced myself or my mom. Mom was diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in

> MN in October with LBD. I had taken her there because she had declined

> rapidly in a couple of months - she went from being able to live by herself

> in her own home to no longer being able to care for herself.

>

> I moved her into assisted living in her home town in the Upper Peninsula

> of MI in early Dec - I had been there taking care of her since October

> until a place opened up. She didn't like it there but was doing fine -

> socializing, eating, doing PT and OT - she had 1 hour of care a day which

> was for the shower and getting dressed in the am.

>

> Late Jan she started to become paranoid - she could hear my voice in the

> hallway at the assisted living place - and I was always with a " bad man " .

> This got progressively worse over a couple of days until 3 weeks ago on a

> Friday she started hitting her head against a wall and being angry and

> combative. The assisted living place called me and I had her in-town

> caretaker go over (I live in Boston) to see if she could calm her down, but

> she couldn't. I had the assisted living place call 911 and they brought her

> into the ER and then admitted her to the hospital. My husband and I were

> lucky to get a flight that evening and arrived in Michigan about midnight.

> I stayed with her that night, and although she was highly paranoid, she was

> still " there " cognitively.

>

> The town she lives in is a very small town with a county hospital, so they

> have no psych unit and no geriatric speciality. It took about a week but

> she calmed down (mostly because she was overly medicated) on 100 mg

> Serequal spread over a day (for the paranoia) and .25mg Xanax 4 times a day

> (for the high agitation). Last Tuesday she and I flew out to Boston with a

> hired RN. She is now at Belmont Manor in Belmont, MA.

>

> They started to lower the dose of the xanax last week, and we'll see what

> happens this coming week. She can now no longer feed herself or walk and is

> completely incontinent. She is combative (and yelling) with any type of

> personal care. She does not always acknowledge that I am there and does not

> understand that she has been moved. She can go from being weepy to angry to

> scared in a matter of minutes, and then the cycle will start again.

>

> I believe that she understood her diagnosis, and I don't know if that is

> causing some of these behaviours or if this is just the disease or the

> medication.

>

> There's so much more but this is a start. Thanks!

>

>

>

--

Kate Knapp, OIT

University of Minnesota

You were born with certain gifts and talents.

In kindergarten you were taught to share.

The world needs all of the gifts it can get.

Don’t be shy.

[Guest guest]

,

I'm glad you now have your mom near you. If nothing else, think of the

airfare you'll save.

As dementia goes, I observed in my mom's unit that most residents didn't

know, didn't care or forgot about their geographic location. When you

noted that you believe your mom understands her diagnosis, I was reminded

of my mom who, when told we were on our way back to see the

neuropsychiatrist who had given her the dementia (LBD and more) diagnosis,

responded " Oh! I forgot I had dementia! "

Yes, a big part of your mom's behavior could be frustration over her

diagnosis or simply over not being able to do things that were once simple

for her - not being able to control her life as she once had. I often

thought that it would be so much easier if LBD were truly progressive,

rather than as cyclic as it is. It's that occasional cognitive moment that

I think is torture for the patient - when she realizes what is going on and

is frustrated, frightened and angry. Who could blame her? Actually, I was

glad Mom rebelled against what was happening to her. I knew she was still

there - still the strong woman who raised me. Eventually, though, with

time and the right medication (or removal of the wrong medication) she

reached a level of acceptance, if not comfort. And, when she realizes that

you are there often and haven't withdrawn your love, care or pride in her,

it could get better. Also, I worked very directly with the dementia unit

staff, from CNA to nurse to activity leader to therapist to administrator

to find ways to help Mom adjust. I think that made a big difference, if

only because I was a " squeaky wheel. "

It could take a while, but your mom will come around. Be sure you have an

outlet for your own frustration and the plethora of feelings you will

experience. I actually started seeing a counselor myself and it was a big

help. Early on, I also took up kickboxing, which was a great way to get

frustrations out. I only stopped doing that after back surgery. (taking

care of yourself is hugely important)

You're doing the right thing, , it just takes time.

Kate

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, phoenixrising1961 wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi everyone - I have posted a few questions in the forum but have not

> formally introduced myself or my mom. Mom was diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in

> MN in October with LBD. I had taken her there because she had declined

> rapidly in a couple of months - she went from being able to live by herself

> in her own home to no longer being able to care for herself.

>

> I moved her into assisted living in her home town in the Upper Peninsula

> of MI in early Dec - I had been there taking care of her since October

> until a place opened up. She didn't like it there but was doing fine -

> socializing, eating, doing PT and OT - she had 1 hour of care a day which

> was for the shower and getting dressed in the am.

>

> Late Jan she started to become paranoid - she could hear my voice in the

> hallway at the assisted living place - and I was always with a " bad man " .

> This got progressively worse over a couple of days until 3 weeks ago on a

> Friday she started hitting her head against a wall and being angry and

> combative. The assisted living place called me and I had her in-town

> caretaker go over (I live in Boston) to see if she could calm her down, but

> she couldn't. I had the assisted living place call 911 and they brought her

> into the ER and then admitted her to the hospital. My husband and I were

> lucky to get a flight that evening and arrived in Michigan about midnight.

> I stayed with her that night, and although she was highly paranoid, she was

> still " there " cognitively.

>

> The town she lives in is a very small town with a county hospital, so they

> have no psych unit and no geriatric speciality. It took about a week but

> she calmed down (mostly because she was overly medicated) on 100 mg

> Serequal spread over a day (for the paranoia) and .25mg Xanax 4 times a day

> (for the high agitation). Last Tuesday she and I flew out to Boston with a

> hired RN. She is now at Belmont Manor in Belmont, MA.

>

> They started to lower the dose of the xanax last week, and we'll see what

> happens this coming week. She can now no longer feed herself or walk and is

> completely incontinent. She is combative (and yelling) with any type of

> personal care. She does not always acknowledge that I am there and does not

> understand that she has been moved. She can go from being weepy to angry to

> scared in a matter of minutes, and then the cycle will start again.

>

> I believe that she understood her diagnosis, and I don't know if that is

> causing some of these behaviours or if this is just the disease or the

> medication.

>

> There's so much more but this is a start. Thanks!

>

>

>

--

Kate Knapp, OIT

University of Minnesota

You were born with certain gifts and talents.

In kindergarten you were taught to share.

The world needs all of the gifts it can get.

Don’t be shy.

[Guest guest]

,

I'm glad you now have your mom near you. If nothing else, think of the

airfare you'll save.

As dementia goes, I observed in my mom's unit that most residents didn't

know, didn't care or forgot about their geographic location. When you

noted that you believe your mom understands her diagnosis, I was reminded

of my mom who, when told we were on our way back to see the

neuropsychiatrist who had given her the dementia (LBD and more) diagnosis,

responded " Oh! I forgot I had dementia! "

Yes, a big part of your mom's behavior could be frustration over her

diagnosis or simply over not being able to do things that were once simple

for her - not being able to control her life as she once had. I often

thought that it would be so much easier if LBD were truly progressive,

rather than as cyclic as it is. It's that occasional cognitive moment that

I think is torture for the patient - when she realizes what is going on and

is frustrated, frightened and angry. Who could blame her? Actually, I was

glad Mom rebelled against what was happening to her. I knew she was still

there - still the strong woman who raised me. Eventually, though, with

time and the right medication (or removal of the wrong medication) she

reached a level of acceptance, if not comfort. And, when she realizes that

you are there often and haven't withdrawn your love, care or pride in her,

it could get better. Also, I worked very directly with the dementia unit

staff, from CNA to nurse to activity leader to therapist to administrator

to find ways to help Mom adjust. I think that made a big difference, if

only because I was a " squeaky wheel. "

It could take a while, but your mom will come around. Be sure you have an

outlet for your own frustration and the plethora of feelings you will

experience. I actually started seeing a counselor myself and it was a big

help. Early on, I also took up kickboxing, which was a great way to get

frustrations out. I only stopped doing that after back surgery. (taking

care of yourself is hugely important)

You're doing the right thing, , it just takes time.

Kate

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, phoenixrising1961 wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi everyone - I have posted a few questions in the forum but have not

> formally introduced myself or my mom. Mom was diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in

> MN in October with LBD. I had taken her there because she had declined

> rapidly in a couple of months - she went from being able to live by herself

> in her own home to no longer being able to care for herself.

>

> I moved her into assisted living in her home town in the Upper Peninsula

> of MI in early Dec - I had been there taking care of her since October

> until a place opened up. She didn't like it there but was doing fine -

> socializing, eating, doing PT and OT - she had 1 hour of care a day which

> was for the shower and getting dressed in the am.

>

> Late Jan she started to become paranoid - she could hear my voice in the

> hallway at the assisted living place - and I was always with a " bad man " .

> This got progressively worse over a couple of days until 3 weeks ago on a

> Friday she started hitting her head against a wall and being angry and

> combative. The assisted living place called me and I had her in-town

> caretaker go over (I live in Boston) to see if she could calm her down, but

> she couldn't. I had the assisted living place call 911 and they brought her

> into the ER and then admitted her to the hospital. My husband and I were

> lucky to get a flight that evening and arrived in Michigan about midnight.

> I stayed with her that night, and although she was highly paranoid, she was

> still " there " cognitively.

>

> The town she lives in is a very small town with a county hospital, so they

> have no psych unit and no geriatric speciality. It took about a week but

> she calmed down (mostly because she was overly medicated) on 100 mg

> Serequal spread over a day (for the paranoia) and .25mg Xanax 4 times a day

> (for the high agitation). Last Tuesday she and I flew out to Boston with a

> hired RN. She is now at Belmont Manor in Belmont, MA.

>

> They started to lower the dose of the xanax last week, and we'll see what

> happens this coming week. She can now no longer feed herself or walk and is

> completely incontinent. She is combative (and yelling) with any type of

> personal care. She does not always acknowledge that I am there and does not

> understand that she has been moved. She can go from being weepy to angry to

> scared in a matter of minutes, and then the cycle will start again.

>

> I believe that she understood her diagnosis, and I don't know if that is

> causing some of these behaviours or if this is just the disease or the

> medication.

>

> There's so much more but this is a start. Thanks!

>

>

>

--

Kate Knapp, OIT

University of Minnesota

You were born with certain gifts and talents.

In kindergarten you were taught to share.

The world needs all of the gifts it can get.

Don’t be shy.