Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Will send up lots of prayers and good thought for you and Bob, dear Pat! Hugs, Helene in NY > > Bob got his staples out and saw the surgeon that did his hip > replacement on Friday. They took xrays and all is healing well so > far. > My biggest concern is with the PT department. He is walking in the > therapy room with a walker 40 feet across the room and turning and > walking across the room again. BUT in his little bedroom the CNA's > are still using the sit to stand machine to get Bob from bed to > wheelchair to toilet et cetera. The PT told me they will start to > work with the aides on Monday about getting Bob to transfer with the > assistance of two aides. The way they are so slow to try this, I > wonder if they will be able to get him to do it with just one person > assisting before they have to discharge him in 12 days? If he cannot > transfer with just my help alone then I don't know what I will do. I > want to bring Bob home, and we do not have money to pay for a nursing > home so what can I do? I may have to just bring him home and keep him > in a hosptial bed. I do not know and the worry is really getting to > me! > > On top of that our car has been acting up. Last Wednesday the brakes > went out and I had to have it towed and repaired. I had a rental car > for two days. I just returned the rental car and yesterday the engine > light comes on! So now I am afraid to drive it like that in the snow > and cold here for fear of a break down. Today a lady from Interfaith > volunteers that I know is going to drive me over to visit Bob for an > hour so I will get to see him. Tomorrow I need to take the car in and > find out why the engine light is on. And I just spend over $1000 in > November on that engine! What a mess! > Would appreciate your continued prayers very much. I get online and > check for group emails every chance I get. > Pat M. > Wife/caregiver of Bob dx PD 2003, LBD 2009 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Will send up lots of prayers and good thought for you and Bob, dear Pat! Hugs, Helene in NY > > Bob got his staples out and saw the surgeon that did his hip > replacement on Friday. They took xrays and all is healing well so > far. > My biggest concern is with the PT department. He is walking in the > therapy room with a walker 40 feet across the room and turning and > walking across the room again. BUT in his little bedroom the CNA's > are still using the sit to stand machine to get Bob from bed to > wheelchair to toilet et cetera. The PT told me they will start to > work with the aides on Monday about getting Bob to transfer with the > assistance of two aides. The way they are so slow to try this, I > wonder if they will be able to get him to do it with just one person > assisting before they have to discharge him in 12 days? If he cannot > transfer with just my help alone then I don't know what I will do. I > want to bring Bob home, and we do not have money to pay for a nursing > home so what can I do? I may have to just bring him home and keep him > in a hosptial bed. I do not know and the worry is really getting to > me! > > On top of that our car has been acting up. Last Wednesday the brakes > went out and I had to have it towed and repaired. I had a rental car > for two days. I just returned the rental car and yesterday the engine > light comes on! So now I am afraid to drive it like that in the snow > and cold here for fear of a break down. Today a lady from Interfaith > volunteers that I know is going to drive me over to visit Bob for an > hour so I will get to see him. Tomorrow I need to take the car in and > find out why the engine light is on. And I just spend over $1000 in > November on that engine! What a mess! > Would appreciate your continued prayers very much. I get online and > check for group emails every chance I get. > Pat M. > Wife/caregiver of Bob dx PD 2003, LBD 2009 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 It sounds like Bob is actually doing well given he is walking. There are many things you can do to aid in transfer from bed to wheelchair, including a transfer pole which has helped(until recently) tremendously. We had one installed right next to his side of the bed and had it attached to the ceiling. Another thing is a grab bar that is made especially for the bed and can be purchased in a medical supply store. Just sounds like the facility is lagging. Can you get some PT when he comes home?? progressed so much faster once he was home. Wishing you all the best in your efforts to get Bob the help he needs. Wild Sent from my iPhone > Bob got his staples out and saw the surgeon that did his hip > replacement on Friday. They took xrays and all is healing well so > far. > My biggest concern is with the PT department. He is walking in the > therapy room with a walker 40 feet across the room and turning and > walking across the room again. BUT in his little bedroom the CNA's > are still using the sit to stand machine to get Bob from bed to > wheelchair to toilet et cetera. The PT told me they will start to > work with the aides on Monday about getting Bob to transfer with the > assistance of two aides. The way they are so slow to try this, I > wonder if they will be able to get him to do it with just one person > assisting before they have to discharge him in 12 days? If he cannot > transfer with just my help alone then I don't know what I will do. I > want to bring Bob home, and we do not have money to pay for a nursing > home so what can I do? I may have to just bring him home and keep him > in a hosptial bed. I do not know and the worry is really getting to > me! > > On top of that our car has been acting up. Last Wednesday the brakes > went out and I had to have it towed and repaired. I had a rental car > for two days. I just returned the rental car and yesterday the engine > light comes on! So now I am afraid to drive it like that in the snow > and cold here for fear of a break down. Today a lady from Interfaith > volunteers that I know is going to drive me over to visit Bob for an > hour so I will get to see him. Tomorrow I need to take the car in and > find out why the engine light is on. And I just spend over $1000 in > November on that engine! What a mess! > Would appreciate your continued prayers very much. I get online and > check for group emails every chance I get. > Pat M. > Wife/caregiver of Bob dx PD 2003, LBD 2009 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Pat, sorry to hear of your husband's decline. how about bed rails that go up and down. he wouldn't be able to roll out of bed. certainly that can't be considered restraining. it is for the patient's safety. sometimes i have to use the gaiter belt to hold my wife Kay (age 59 for 1 more week) in the wheelchair, when she has the " Lewy Lean " . I also had a bad month last month with kay- i am making my list for the brilliant dr. (ha ha). she tore one of her nails all the way back, it was only attached at the nail bed. so off to see the podiatrist the 18th. she doesn't use utensils much anymore. she crumples to the ground, with weak legs, more often now. her left hand is now useless as it justs hangs at a 90 degree angle. caregiver thinks a small stroke may have happened- so now she has one good hand to hold grab bar as i have more weight to hold up . she is 182 lbs. i guess i better start working out. all this in 3 years. she was driving, walking, talking, etc. in 2009. has anyone heard of this kind of decline , this fast , with LBD? this is a terrible disease.I, like probably most of you, want to keep my wife (LO) at home till the end. i suppose this is a stupid idea. hang in there, you all, and take care of YOU, also................. Subject: Update on Bob To: LBD_caringspouses , LBDcaregivers Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:18 PM  Hi All, My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for keeping him safe from more falls? Thanks, Pat M. 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Yes, , this is a terrible disease. My mother was diagnosed with Mild Cognitive Impairment in February, 2006. Her neurologist insisted we place her in a facility immediately, which we did in May (waiting list time for ALF). By September, it was necessary to move Mom to the secure unit due to the dramatic increase in her confusion. By November, 2007, she had lost the ability to walk. Within about six months, she also lost the ability to self-feed. By late in 2008, she required total care. She passed on March 5 after more than three years of total care. I silently questioned the neurologist's insistence at making a move so quickly following diagnosis. After all, Mom was functioning very well independently at that point, living in her own apartment, shopping, cooking, cleaning, socializing. It eventually became apparent that the neurologist provided sound guidance early on. My best wishes to you and your wife as her journey continues, Lynn in Florida ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  all this in 3 years. she was driving, walking, > talking, etc. in 2009. has anyone heard of this kind of decline , this fast , with LBD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Yes, , this is a terrible disease. My mother was diagnosed with Mild Cognitive Impairment in February, 2006. Her neurologist insisted we place her in a facility immediately, which we did in May (waiting list time for ALF). By September, it was necessary to move Mom to the secure unit due to the dramatic increase in her confusion. By November, 2007, she had lost the ability to walk. Within about six months, she also lost the ability to self-feed. By late in 2008, she required total care. She passed on March 5 after more than three years of total care. I silently questioned the neurologist's insistence at making a move so quickly following diagnosis. After all, Mom was functioning very well independently at that point, living in her own apartment, shopping, cooking, cleaning, socializing. It eventually became apparent that the neurologist provided sound guidance early on. My best wishes to you and your wife as her journey continues, Lynn in Florida ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  all this in 3 years. she was driving, walking, > talking, etc. in 2009. has anyone heard of this kind of decline , this fast , with LBD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 : It seems to me that we often see and hear about severe decline following surgeries with LBD patients. I think it is because they are so sensitive to so many different drugs and probably anesthesia. They still don't know all the answers. It was the same here in NY, no restraints allowed. I think they did put rails up at night though, I can't remember for sure. I wish you well, it is so difficult, I know. Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 68, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. 5/2/08 Ray was placed in Sunrise Nursing Home in Oswego, NY, 1 hour from home. So far, so good! Hardest thing I have ever done in my life, however. 3/19/09 transferred to Samaritan Keep NH in Watertown, NY closer to home. He passed peacefully at 5:18 am on April 14, 2009. I am handling it OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 : It seems to me that we often see and hear about severe decline following surgeries with LBD patients. I think it is because they are so sensitive to so many different drugs and probably anesthesia. They still don't know all the answers. It was the same here in NY, no restraints allowed. I think they did put rails up at night though, I can't remember for sure. I wish you well, it is so difficult, I know. Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 68, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. 5/2/08 Ray was placed in Sunrise Nursing Home in Oswego, NY, 1 hour from home. So far, so good! Hardest thing I have ever done in my life, however. 3/19/09 transferred to Samaritan Keep NH in Watertown, NY closer to home. He passed peacefully at 5:18 am on April 14, 2009. I am handling it OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 So sorry pat to see what your going through with bob. So many examples of Los that decline rapidly after long surgeries - as others have said probably due to the anesthesia. Praying for bob and you, Judy > ** > > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 So sorry pat to see what your going through with bob. So many examples of Los that decline rapidly after long surgeries - as others have said probably due to the anesthesia. Praying for bob and you, Judy > ** > > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Hi Pat, Is there any chance that you can make a 'surprise' visit to Bob in the afternoon, so you can see what is actually going on? Would it help to keep the railings upon the sides of the bed? Sorry to just be getting back to you. It's been a busy weekend. Hope you are well, Helene in NY (Mom 78, late stage LBD, at home in the Bronx) > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Dear , Sometimes the progression is very fast, and sometimes it is very slow... I'm sorry to read about Kay. I wish you strength, and a sense of humor.... it is indeed the most awful disease... Regards, Helene in NY > > > > Subject: Update on Bob > To: LBD_caringspouses , LBDcaregivers > Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:18 PM > > > >  > > > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Dear , Sometimes the progression is very fast, and sometimes it is very slow... I'm sorry to read about Kay. I wish you strength, and a sense of humor.... it is indeed the most awful disease... Regards, Helene in NY > > > > Subject: Update on Bob > To: LBD_caringspouses , LBDcaregivers > Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:18 PM > > > >  > > > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Dear , Sometimes the progression is very fast, and sometimes it is very slow... I'm sorry to read about Kay. I wish you strength, and a sense of humor.... it is indeed the most awful disease... Regards, Helene in NY > > > > Subject: Update on Bob > To: LBD_caringspouses , LBDcaregivers > Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:18 PM > > > >  > > > > Hi All, > My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to > walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia > really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough > to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his > legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten > them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit > electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again > about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed > on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the > second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. > I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should > keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the > time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. > Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of > it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair > also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for > keeping him safe from more falls? > Thanks, > Pat M. > 58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 , Sounds like we are in somewhat similar situations. Kathy is right handed and over the last few months has been using her left hand more and more. She tends to curl her right hand a bit and hold her arm across her chest. She denies any discomfort and has almost equal strength in both arms and legs. I just brought her home from the hospital this weekend following a fall and what appeared to be a serious UTI. Her doc ordered PT for her legs.The therapist will be coming to the house this week.  I was very concerned about showering/bathing issues after I had my second back surgery. I decided I didn't want the risk of trying to support her in the shower on a bad day and take a chance with my back.  I hired an aide who will shower her 5 days a week and I will handle it on the weekends if things look good. I had 5 grab rails installed in the shower and bathroom. They are good for me, but sometimes she will not grab them unless I slide her hands over them. Other days she will reach for them. I have showered her with a gait belt on her if I suspect any potential issues. I have a belt in the bathroom, her bedroom, the car and one floating around the rest of the house. A CT of her head indicated an old " sub acute event " on her right side, which probably doesn't account for her right hand issues.  Her doc has suggested it may be a Lewy thing. In my opinion she had been very stable the last 18 months hovering between Stage 3 and 4.  However, of late, it appears she has an accelerated slide into stage or phase 4. I am sure the rate and quality of our LO's decline vary widely. , I wish you both the very best. But please make sure you protect yourself first.  Jeff When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place. " ~ Unknown >________________________________ > >To: LBDcaregivers >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Update on Bob > > > >Pat, sorry to hear of your husband's decline. how about bed rails that go up and down. he wouldn't be able to roll out of bed. certainly that can't be considered restraining. it is for the patient's safety. sometimes i have to use the gaiter belt to hold my wife Kay (age 59 for 1 more week) in the wheelchair, when she has the " Lewy Lean " . I also had a bad month last month with kay- i am making my list for the brilliant dr. (ha ha). she tore one of her nails all the way back, it was only attached at the nail bed. so off to see the podiatrist the 18th. she doesn't use utensils much anymore. she crumples to the ground, with weak legs, more often now. her left hand is now useless as it justs hangs at a 90 degree angle. caregiver thinks a small stroke may have happened- so now she has one good hand to hold grab bar as i have more weight to hold up . she is 182 lbs. i guess i better start working out. all this in 3 years. she was driving, walking, >talking, etc. in 2009. has anyone heard of this kind of decline , this fast , with LBD? this is a terrible disease.I, like probably most of you, want to keep my wife (LO) at home till the end. i suppose this is a stupid idea. hang in there, you all, and take care of YOU, also................. > > > > >Subject: Update on Bob >To: LBD_caringspouses , LBDcaregivers >Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:18 PM > > > >Hi All, >My husband Bob is in a nursing home now as he could never learn to >walk again after his repeat hip surgery in April The anesthesia >really took his mental state way down. He could not understand enough >to cooperate with PT to learn to walk with a walker again. Also his >legs are somewhat contracted at the knees and he cannot straighten >them even though the did six weeks of stretching and TENS unit >electrodes to stimulate his muscles. Anyway, the nurse called again >about 5 PM to tell me they found him on the floor next to his low bed >on the fall mat again this afternoon during rounds. This is the >second time in a week this has happened. They told me he is not hurt. >I said to check him over very well. I told the nurse they should >keep Bob up in the wheelchair close to the nurse's med cart all the >time and not put him down for a nap in the afternoons any more. >Apparently he is getting physically stronger, but is mentally out of >it. They tell me he is always trying to wiggle out of his wheelchair >also. By law they cannot restrain him here. Any suggestions for >keeping him safe from more falls? >Thanks, >Pat M. >58, Wife of Bob, 76 dx PD 2003, LBD 2009, now in a nursing home. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think Illinois has the same law about restraints that Wisconsin does. Here they lower the bed to the floor so they don't have as far to fall. They also have bumpers that they put on the side of the bed under the sheets. This makes kind of a soft boat for them to sleep in. I think that stops the rolling falls but are not restraints because if they want to they can get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think Illinois has the same law about restraints that Wisconsin does. Here they lower the bed to the floor so they don't have as far to fall. They also have bumpers that they put on the side of the bed under the sheets. This makes kind of a soft boat for them to sleep in. I think that stops the rolling falls but are not restraints because if they want to they can get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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