Nelliestar~Obesity~Re: Family of Origin

[Guest guest]

I do not agree with your statement, " But we have to wonder why we saw no

chubbies walking out of the concentration camps " . First of all, calling people

'chubbies' is demeaning. Obesity is classified as an illness. It is not a

character flaw. Secondly, I am acknowledging a 'cultural component.' Our culture

has changed from harder physical work and fresher foods to a more sedentary

lifestyle and more processed foods. There are other societal developments and

changing family and personal dynamics which likely are involved. I am

acknowledging these, but it does not answer the question as to why some people,

sedentary or not, can eat a particular diet day after day and remain slim while

other folks, sedentary or not, gain 100+ pounds and are thus obese or morbidly

obese.

So what is different about people in our culture these days and concentration

camp victims?

1.Those people were separated from their society and oftentimes family and all

the the emotional and physical experiences therein. Good and bad.

2. I doubt there were many 300 pound people entering concentration camps.

Obesity is a more recent phenomena. The baseline weight of folks entering

concentration camps is not likely to have been classified as 'obese'. In other

words, these people had less weight to lose.

3. These people were often tortured and/or made to do excessive and extreme

physical labor.

4. Often they were starved to the point where normal bodily functions ceased and

there was no capacity to retain let alone gain weight. They were not only

deprived of calories, but also water, warmth, sanitation and medical,

psychological and familial care. Disease and parasites ran rampant.

Truly there is no argument to be made...we're looking at apples and oranges

here.

As was said before, the phenomena of obesity in our culture is likely multi

faceted in cause. But making undue comparisons helps no one. We are more likely

to find answers in analyzing the facts and acting on the information rather than

criticizing.

Cheryle

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From: NELLIESTAR@...

> There certainly is a cultural component. But why do

> some people gain 100 pounds and some none when eating a similar

> crappy diet?>>>

>

But we have to wonder why we saw no chubbies walking out of the

concentration camps.

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[Guest guest]

This is a really great post Cheryle! Morally, I cannot

even begin to compare in my mind concentration camp

victims to obesity

--- mercycove@... wrote:

> I do not agree with your statement, " But we have to

> wonder why we saw no chubbies walking out of the

> concentration camps " . First of all, calling people

> 'chubbies' is demeaning. Obesity is classified as

> an illness. It is not a character flaw. Secondly, I

> am acknowledging a 'cultural component.' Our culture

> has changed from harder physical work and fresher

> foods to a more sedentary lifestyle and more

> processed foods. There are other societal

> developments and changing family and personal

> dynamics which likely are involved. I am

> acknowledging these, but it does not answer the

> question as to why some people, sedentary or not,

> can eat a particular diet day after day and remain

> slim while other folks, sedentary or not, gain 100+

> pounds and are thus obese or morbidly obese.

>

> So what is different about people in our culture

> these days and concentration camp victims?

>

> 1.Those people were separated from their society and

> oftentimes family and all the the emotional and

> physical experiences therein. Good and bad.

>

> 2. I doubt there were many 300 pound people entering

> concentration camps. Obesity is a more recent

> phenomena. The baseline weight of folks entering

> concentration camps is not likely to have been

> classified as 'obese'. In other words, these people

> had less weight to lose.

>

> 3. These people were often tortured and/or made to

> do excessive and extreme physical labor.

>

> 4. Often they were starved to the point where normal

> bodily functions ceased and there was no capacity to

> retain let alone gain weight. They were not only

> deprived of calories, but also water, warmth,

> sanitation and medical, psychological and familial

> care. Disease and parasites ran rampant.

>

> Truly there is no argument to be made...we're

> looking at apples and oranges here.

>

> As was said before, the phenomena of obesity in our

> culture is likely multi faceted in cause. But

> making undue comparisons helps no one. We are more

> likely to find answers in analyzing the facts and

> acting on the information rather than criticizing.

>

> Cheryle

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: NELLIESTAR@...

>

>

> > There certainly is a cultural component. But why

> do

> > some people gain 100 pounds and some none when

> eating a similar

> > crappy diet?>>>

> >

> But we have to wonder why we saw no chubbies walking

> out of the

> concentration camps.

>

> **************

> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

> shape.

>

>

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

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