Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I'd say 80-120 (plasma readings) but that's a minor quibble. YOu've got it right. Mike Freeman > Most people who exercise tight blood glucose level control do not have > hypoglycemic reactions until their bs falls below 70. Of course if a person > is use to running high bs results in the range of say 140 or higher, then > they may experience symptoms of low blood sugar at a higher than 70. This > will happen until the body adjusts to having a lower bs level overall. > I define the normal range for a bs as being between 70-120, which is the > normal range for around 98-99% of the population world wide. > When I was on Actos, I had to take it every day, and I could not miss many > days in a row. I know Actos is expensive, but it does make your insulin > resistance lower so that the glucose can get into your muscle cells and > other cells of the body. > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 For once Mike we completely agree with the range of 80-120. I was just testing to see if you are on the ball!<smile> ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 For once Mike we completely agree with the range of 80-120. I was just testing to see if you are on the ball!<smile> ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 <<GRIN>> > For once Mike we completely agree with the range of 80-120. I was just > testing to see if you are on the ball!<smile> > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Jerry, I hope you take Harry's advice seriously. I am a juvenile Diabetic. I spent most of my life fallowing the doctors advice fallowing the regular way of monitoring my diabetes. I got older and did not keep it under control. Last year I had to go to the Kidney transplant specialist. Now they are saying Heart catheterization. I am not even 38 yet. Please listen to these guy's and take your diabetes seriously. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Jerry, I hope you take Harry's advice seriously. I am a juvenile Diabetic. I spent most of my life fallowing the doctors advice fallowing the regular way of monitoring my diabetes. I got older and did not keep it under control. Last year I had to go to the Kidney transplant specialist. Now they are saying Heart catheterization. I am not even 38 yet. Please listen to these guy's and take your diabetes seriously. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , I am sorry to hear about your plight. If they are considering heart blockage evaluation and correction, I would definitely recommend you get on a daily therapeutic dose of flush free niacin for the rest of your life. This dose of niacin would be a total per day between 1000 mg and 3000 mg preferably in divided doses each day. It is cheap, since a 500 mg capsule of flush free niacin can be bought at your local pharmacy or drug discount store for less than 7 cents each per capsule. You do not need a prescription to purchase it and it will not interfere with any medications you are already taking. I am very serious about this matter, having survived three heart attacks and two heart by-pass surgeries plus one stroke. Had I only been taking niacin, a simple vitamin B3 all those years, maybe I could have avoided all those problems, but I will never know. I can only surmise. I make this recommendation to you since I know most doctors will never do so, because it is not in their financial interest to do so. I am a strong believer in prevention rather than rehabilitation whenever possible now. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I think the operative word here is " MAYBE " ! Mike > , > I am sorry to hear about your plight. If they are considering heart > blockage evaluation and correction, I would definitely recommend you get on > a daily therapeutic dose of flush free niacin for the rest of your life. > This dose of niacin would be a total per day between 1000 mg and 3000 mg > preferably in divided doses each day. It is cheap, since a 500 mg capsule > of flush free niacin can be bought at your local pharmacy or drug discount > store for less than 7 cents each per capsule. You do not need a > prescription to purchase it and it will not interfere with any medications > you are already taking. I am very serious about this matter, having > survived three heart attacks and two heart by-pass surgeries plus one > stroke. Had I only been taking niacin, a simple vitamin B3 all those years, > maybe I could have avoided all those problems, but I will never know. I can > only surmise. > I make this recommendation to you since I know most doctors will never do > so, because it is not in their financial interest to do so. I am a strong > believer in prevention rather than rehabilitation whenever possible now. > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I think the operative word here is " MAYBE " ! Mike > , > I am sorry to hear about your plight. If they are considering heart > blockage evaluation and correction, I would definitely recommend you get on > a daily therapeutic dose of flush free niacin for the rest of your life. > This dose of niacin would be a total per day between 1000 mg and 3000 mg > preferably in divided doses each day. It is cheap, since a 500 mg capsule > of flush free niacin can be bought at your local pharmacy or drug discount > store for less than 7 cents each per capsule. You do not need a > prescription to purchase it and it will not interfere with any medications > you are already taking. I am very serious about this matter, having > survived three heart attacks and two heart by-pass surgeries plus one > stroke. Had I only been taking niacin, a simple vitamin B3 all those years, > maybe I could have avoided all those problems, but I will never know. I can > only surmise. > I make this recommendation to you since I know most doctors will never do > so, because it is not in their financial interest to do so. I am a strong > believer in prevention rather than rehabilitation whenever possible now. > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Harry, I will do so emeaditly! I have kept my blood sugars down now for a year. I am down to a A1c of 6.1. a real inprovment for me. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Harry, I will do so emeaditly! I have kept my blood sugars down now for a year. I am down to a A1c of 6.1. a real inprovment for me. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , A heart cath sounds very scarey. I have had 3 of them. They are not so awful and maybe thy can do something to improve the circulation. But as others haere have told you, keeping the diabetes under control so no further damage happens is so important.I don't really know if the niacin that Harry recommends will help, but it certainly can't hurt. Best of luck. Let us know how things turn out. Re: ADA A1C information Dear Jerry, I hope you take Harry's advice seriously. I am a juvenile Diabetic. I spent most of my life fallowing the doctors advice fallowing the regular way of monitoring my diabetes. I got older and did not keep it under control. Last year I had to go to the Kidney transplant specialist. Now they are saying Heart catheterization. I am not even 38 yet. Please listen to these guy's and take your diabetes seriously. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , A heart cath sounds very scarey. I have had 3 of them. They are not so awful and maybe thy can do something to improve the circulation. But as others haere have told you, keeping the diabetes under control so no further damage happens is so important.I don't really know if the niacin that Harry recommends will help, but it certainly can't hurt. Best of luck. Let us know how things turn out. Re: ADA A1C information Dear Jerry, I hope you take Harry's advice seriously. I am a juvenile Diabetic. I spent most of my life fallowing the doctors advice fallowing the regular way of monitoring my diabetes. I got older and did not keep it under control. Last year I had to go to the Kidney transplant specialist. Now they are saying Heart catheterization. I am not even 38 yet. Please listen to these guy's and take your diabetes seriously. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 That is tue about the low. I run low blood sugars, so do't feel low until I am around 60 or even lower-very scarey as I am afraid I will recognize when it gets too low and pass out on the street.I have a friend who that happened to frequently until she (under her doctors order) started running her sugars a little higher. It was much preferable to passing out at work-which happened to her several times. It is called diabetic unawareness and is a not so good thing to experience! Re: ADA A1C information Most people who exercise tight blood glucose level control do not have hypoglycemic reactions until their bs falls below 70. Of course if a person is use to running high bs results in the range of say 140 or higher, then they may experience symptoms of low blood sugar at a higher than 70. This will happen until the body adjusts to having a lower bs level overall. I define the normal range for a bs as being between 70-120, which is the normal range for around 98-99% of the population world wide. When I was on Actos, I had to take it every day, and I could not miss many days in a row. I know Actos is expensive, but it does make your insulin resistance lower so that the glucose can get into your muscle cells and other cells of the body. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 That is tue about the low. I run low blood sugars, so do't feel low until I am around 60 or even lower-very scarey as I am afraid I will recognize when it gets too low and pass out on the street.I have a friend who that happened to frequently until she (under her doctors order) started running her sugars a little higher. It was much preferable to passing out at work-which happened to her several times. It is called diabetic unawareness and is a not so good thing to experience! Re: ADA A1C information Most people who exercise tight blood glucose level control do not have hypoglycemic reactions until their bs falls below 70. Of course if a person is use to running high bs results in the range of say 140 or higher, then they may experience symptoms of low blood sugar at a higher than 70. This will happen until the body adjusts to having a lower bs level overall. I define the normal range for a bs as being between 70-120, which is the normal range for around 98-99% of the population world wide. When I was on Actos, I had to take it every day, and I could not miss many days in a row. I know Actos is expensive, but it does make your insulin resistance lower so that the glucose can get into your muscle cells and other cells of the body. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 That is tue about the low. I run low blood sugars, so do't feel low until I am around 60 or even lower-very scarey as I am afraid I will recognize when it gets too low and pass out on the street.I have a friend who that happened to frequently until she (under her doctors order) started running her sugars a little higher. It was much preferable to passing out at work-which happened to her several times. It is called diabetic unawareness and is a not so good thing to experience! Re: ADA A1C information Most people who exercise tight blood glucose level control do not have hypoglycemic reactions until their bs falls below 70. Of course if a person is use to running high bs results in the range of say 140 or higher, then they may experience symptoms of low blood sugar at a higher than 70. This will happen until the body adjusts to having a lower bs level overall. I define the normal range for a bs as being between 70-120, which is the normal range for around 98-99% of the population world wide. When I was on Actos, I had to take it every day, and I could not miss many days in a row. I know Actos is expensive, but it does make your insulin resistance lower so that the glucose can get into your muscle cells and other cells of the body. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Also, Jerry You can feel low if your blood sugar is in the normal range, but is in the process of dropping. For instance, you may mesure your BG and it between 98-125, but if you measured it an hour later and it is say 70, you would feel ike you are low just becaue it is dropping. It is not a good thing to not take your meds as it can ruin your control for the rest of the day. Re: ADA A1C information Hmmm ... I'm gonna start sounding like Harry here. Although there may be special circumstances which require you to keep a bG level higher than is usual for someone who does not have diabetes, a morning reading of 98 to 125 is, in my opinion, just what the doctor should have ordered. The American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists recommends a fasting blood glucose level of 90-110 mg/dl. So it seems to me that your medicine was doing just what it should. If you were experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms, it might be worth investigating whether or not you were experiencing what is known as " false hypoglycemia " , that is, your body is so used to higher blood glucose levels that it lets you know when euglycemia (normal blood glucose) occurs because it thinks you're going too low. these symptoms usually subside after two weeks or so. There's a good article in, I think, the Spring, 2005 edition of NFB's " Voice of the diabetic " -- Harry just reposted it a few days ago, I believe. As I say, you may have special circumstances. But given that keeping your blood glucose as close as possible to the range of that for a nondiabetic is the best way to reduce the likelihood of diabetic complications, it's worth looking at. Mike Freeman > After I started walking of a morning, I had to stop taking my Actos, because > my bs was down to about 98 to 125 of a morning. However, when I don't take > the Actos and I eat what I shouldn't, I don't have anything in my system to > help take care of the carbs that I have taken in. I am no different than > any body else. I do cheat with my food sometimes. I guess I will have to > start taking the Actos of a morning, figuring that it will help take care of > the carbs that I take in of a day. If I experience low bs, I will just > have to deal with that also. Thanks for all the help. > Jerry Litterell > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Also, Jerry You can feel low if your blood sugar is in the normal range, but is in the process of dropping. For instance, you may mesure your BG and it between 98-125, but if you measured it an hour later and it is say 70, you would feel ike you are low just becaue it is dropping. It is not a good thing to not take your meds as it can ruin your control for the rest of the day. Re: ADA A1C information Hmmm ... I'm gonna start sounding like Harry here. Although there may be special circumstances which require you to keep a bG level higher than is usual for someone who does not have diabetes, a morning reading of 98 to 125 is, in my opinion, just what the doctor should have ordered. The American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists recommends a fasting blood glucose level of 90-110 mg/dl. So it seems to me that your medicine was doing just what it should. If you were experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms, it might be worth investigating whether or not you were experiencing what is known as " false hypoglycemia " , that is, your body is so used to higher blood glucose levels that it lets you know when euglycemia (normal blood glucose) occurs because it thinks you're going too low. these symptoms usually subside after two weeks or so. There's a good article in, I think, the Spring, 2005 edition of NFB's " Voice of the diabetic " -- Harry just reposted it a few days ago, I believe. As I say, you may have special circumstances. But given that keeping your blood glucose as close as possible to the range of that for a nondiabetic is the best way to reduce the likelihood of diabetic complications, it's worth looking at. Mike Freeman > After I started walking of a morning, I had to stop taking my Actos, because > my bs was down to about 98 to 125 of a morning. However, when I don't take > the Actos and I eat what I shouldn't, I don't have anything in my system to > help take care of the carbs that I have taken in. I am no different than > any body else. I do cheat with my food sometimes. I guess I will have to > start taking the Actos of a morning, figuring that it will help take care of > the carbs that I take in of a day. If I experience low bs, I will just > have to deal with that also. Thanks for all the help. > Jerry Litterell > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Also, Jerry You can feel low if your blood sugar is in the normal range, but is in the process of dropping. For instance, you may mesure your BG and it between 98-125, but if you measured it an hour later and it is say 70, you would feel ike you are low just becaue it is dropping. It is not a good thing to not take your meds as it can ruin your control for the rest of the day. Re: ADA A1C information Hmmm ... I'm gonna start sounding like Harry here. Although there may be special circumstances which require you to keep a bG level higher than is usual for someone who does not have diabetes, a morning reading of 98 to 125 is, in my opinion, just what the doctor should have ordered. The American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists recommends a fasting blood glucose level of 90-110 mg/dl. So it seems to me that your medicine was doing just what it should. If you were experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms, it might be worth investigating whether or not you were experiencing what is known as " false hypoglycemia " , that is, your body is so used to higher blood glucose levels that it lets you know when euglycemia (normal blood glucose) occurs because it thinks you're going too low. these symptoms usually subside after two weeks or so. There's a good article in, I think, the Spring, 2005 edition of NFB's " Voice of the diabetic " -- Harry just reposted it a few days ago, I believe. As I say, you may have special circumstances. But given that keeping your blood glucose as close as possible to the range of that for a nondiabetic is the best way to reduce the likelihood of diabetic complications, it's worth looking at. Mike Freeman > After I started walking of a morning, I had to stop taking my Actos, because > my bs was down to about 98 to 125 of a morning. However, when I don't take > the Actos and I eat what I shouldn't, I don't have anything in my system to > help take care of the carbs that I have taken in. I am no different than > any body else. I do cheat with my food sometimes. I guess I will have to > start taking the Actos of a morning, figuring that it will help take care of > the carbs that I take in of a day. If I experience low bs, I will just > have to deal with that also. Thanks for all the help. > Jerry Litterell > ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Jerry, What doseage of Actos do you take? I ask, since you could possibly get a pill splitter and take the highest dose of Actos prescribed by your docdtor, then split each pill with a pill splitter. I say this because I know Actos is very expensive. I also know the highest dose pill cost only a little more than the low dose of Actos. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Jerry, What doseage of Actos do you take? I ask, since you could possibly get a pill splitter and take the highest dose of Actos prescribed by your docdtor, then split each pill with a pill splitter. I say this because I know Actos is very expensive. I also know the highest dose pill cost only a little more than the low dose of Actos. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Patrisha, Thanks, I was prepared for the kidney failure. The sudden heart cath really bothered me. I have been studing up on this. It doesn't sound as bad if you read the explnation they give children. *smile sheepishly* I am working hard on the blood sugars. I test 4 to 5 times a day. and more when I'm running low's or high's. I no longer allow my self to get away with the excuse of I'm a brittle diabetic. I am taking action. I only drink 1 to 2 cups of coffee and plan to cut it all to gather. I drink water insted of pop-soada. I am working on my self. I have been on this list for years. I know who's falt this is, I can't change what I did in the past. I will change what I do now! ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Patrisha, Thanks, I was prepared for the kidney failure. The sudden heart cath really bothered me. I have been studing up on this. It doesn't sound as bad if you read the explnation they give children. *smile sheepishly* I am working hard on the blood sugars. I test 4 to 5 times a day. and more when I'm running low's or high's. I no longer allow my self to get away with the excuse of I'm a brittle diabetic. I am taking action. I only drink 1 to 2 cups of coffee and plan to cut it all to gather. I drink water insted of pop-soada. I am working on my self. I have been on this list for years. I know who's falt this is, I can't change what I did in the past. I will change what I do now! ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dear Patrisha, Thanks, I was prepared for the kidney failure. The sudden heart cath really bothered me. I have been studing up on this. It doesn't sound as bad if you read the explnation they give children. *smile sheepishly* I am working hard on the blood sugars. I test 4 to 5 times a day. and more when I'm running low's or high's. I no longer allow my self to get away with the excuse of I'm a brittle diabetic. I am taking action. I only drink 1 to 2 cups of coffee and plan to cut it all to gather. I drink water insted of pop-soada. I am working on my self. I have been on this list for years. I know who's falt this is, I can't change what I did in the past. I will change what I do now! ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I am just asking here. Isn't diabetic unawareness more common with a type 1 diabetic than it is with a type 2 diabetic? ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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