Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 I am just asking here. Isn't diabetic unawareness more common with a type 1 diabetic than it is with a type 2 diabetic? ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Dear Harry, I don't know about other people, but, I know almost always when my sugar is low. I do have better controle now. I only have trouble in the middle of the night. I have been a Diabetic for 30 years, almost. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Dear Harry, I don't know about other people, but, I know almost always when my sugar is low. I do have better controle now. I only have trouble in the middle of the night. I have been a Diabetic for 30 years, almost. ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Good for you . I was 48 whn I had a heart attack and had by-pass surgery. As you are doing now, I changed my attitude a lot then! Re: ADA A1C information Dear Patrisha, Thanks, I was prepared for the kidney failure. The sudden heart cath really bothered me. I have been studing up on this. It doesn't sound as bad if you read the explnation they give children. *smile sheepishly* I am working hard on the blood sugars. I test 4 to 5 times a day. and more when I'm running low's or high's. I no longer allow my self to get away with the excuse of I'm a brittle diabetic. I am taking action. I only drink 1 to 2 cups of coffee and plan to cut it all to gather. I drink water insted of pop-soada. I am working on my self. I have been on this list for years. I know who's falt this is, I can't change what I did in the past. I will change what I do now! ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each >>>>>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> calendar >>>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are >>>>>>>>>>>> unknown. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I think it is, harry and I think it happens most often in type 1 diabeticswho run low blood sugars. It is very scarey as long term diabetics who run low blood sugars, also a chance of having a heart attack during this low blood sugar. Re: ADA A1C information I am just asking here. Isn't diabetic unawareness more common with a type 1 diabetic than it is with a type 2 diabetic? ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I think it is, harry and I think it happens most often in type 1 diabeticswho run low blood sugars. It is very scarey as long term diabetics who run low blood sugars, also a chance of having a heart attack during this low blood sugar. Re: ADA A1C information I am just asking here. Isn't diabetic unawareness more common with a type 1 diabetic than it is with a type 2 diabetic? ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I think it is, harry and I think it happens most often in type 1 diabeticswho run low blood sugars. It is very scarey as long term diabetics who run low blood sugars, also a chance of having a heart attack during this low blood sugar. Re: ADA A1C information I am just asking here. Isn't diabetic unawareness more common with a type 1 diabetic than it is with a type 2 diabetic? ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I only stopped taking the Actos because my bs was so good of a morning. I take 15 mg and I understand that that is the small one. I have started taking it again and take it daily. I do have health insurance and also have a prescription plan, so it cost me about 25 dollars a month to take the Actos. I use to take glucovance, but it was to potent. I had several instances of low bs so the doctor changed it. I find the actos better for me to take. Jerry Litterell ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I only stopped taking the Actos because my bs was so good of a morning. I take 15 mg and I understand that that is the small one. I have started taking it again and take it daily. I do have health insurance and also have a prescription plan, so it cost me about 25 dollars a month to take the Actos. I use to take glucovance, but it was to potent. I had several instances of low bs so the doctor changed it. I find the actos better for me to take. Jerry Litterell ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I can't take actos because it causes a lot of swelling in my feet. Making it hard to even put on my shoes. Does anyone else have the swelling problem? dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I can't take actos because it causes a lot of swelling in my feet. Making it hard to even put on my shoes. Does anyone else have the swelling problem? dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I can't take actos because it causes a lot of swelling in my feet. Making it hard to even put on my shoes. Does anyone else have the swelling problem? dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. Regards, ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. Regards, ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. Regards, ADA A1C information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen >>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new >>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having >>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Dr Bernsteins symptoms totally reversed by getting his a1c down to 4.5 to 5.0 range. His situation was as bad as yours . you never know what the human body will do if you get the a1c in normal range. Not trying to toss out false hope here, but, you never know... Regards, ADA A1C information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the >>>>>>>>>>> " normal >>>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the >>>>>>>>>>> probability >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data >>>>>>>>>>> runs >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched >>>>>>>>>>> complications >>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and >>>>>>>>>>> bowels >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any >>>>>>>>>>> thresholds >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as >>>>>>>>>>> connective >>>>>>>>>>> tissue >>>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as >>>>>>>>>>> frozen >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. >>>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and >>>>>>>>>>> diabetics >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar >>>>>>>>>>> age. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> cells >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as >>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>> limbs >>>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other >>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XB >>>>>>>>>>> IC|XC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 It is on e of the prescription drugs used for type 2 diabetics to make yur cells less resistant to insulin. Re: ADA A1C information Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 It is on e of the prescription drugs used for type 2 diabetics to make yur cells less resistant to insulin. Re: ADA A1C information Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 It is on e of the prescription drugs used for type 2 diabetics to make yur cells less resistant to insulin. Re: ADA A1C information Excuse my ignorance. What is Actos? Is it a prescrption drug? Victor 0#ã ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the > >>>>>>>>>> probability > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data > >>>>>>>>>> runs > >>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > > of > >>>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and > >>>>>>>>>> bowels > >>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > > thresholds > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > > connective > >>>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > > things > >>>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Or if you take your insulin and are more active than you anticipated so it begins to take effect earlier than you gauged it would. I ran into that one when I was packing to come home from the NFB convention. I had taken my insulin and had breakfast ready-to-go and was packing and figured I'd eat in another few minutes (after I was done) but I was rushing around and the insulin got going faster than I predicted so broke into a cold sweat. Needless-to-say, I ate breakfast so that by the time I was ready to leave, I was fine. Mike > Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. > > I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. > > > Regards, > > ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs > >>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels > >>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > >>>>>>>>> thresholds > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > >>>>>>>>> connective > >>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > >>>>>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Or if you take your insulin and are more active than you anticipated so it begins to take effect earlier than you gauged it would. I ran into that one when I was packing to come home from the NFB convention. I had taken my insulin and had breakfast ready-to-go and was packing and figured I'd eat in another few minutes (after I was done) but I was rushing around and the insulin got going faster than I predicted so broke into a cold sweat. Needless-to-say, I ate breakfast so that by the time I was ready to leave, I was fine. Mike > Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. > > I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. > > > Regards, > > ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs > >>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels > >>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > >>>>>>>>> thresholds > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > >>>>>>>>> connective > >>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > >>>>>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Or if you take your insulin and are more active than you anticipated so it begins to take effect earlier than you gauged it would. I ran into that one when I was packing to come home from the NFB convention. I had taken my insulin and had breakfast ready-to-go and was packing and figured I'd eat in another few minutes (after I was done) but I was rushing around and the insulin got going faster than I predicted so broke into a cold sweat. Needless-to-say, I ate breakfast so that by the time I was ready to leave, I was fine. Mike > Speaking as a long term type 1, that doesn't happen pat if you check your sugar frequently enough. I.E pre meal, 2 hours past eating, etc. > > I know you know that Pat but wanted to post it for newbies. Main thing is, you will not pass out if you check enough. It is only when you *assume* you are ok that you can get in big trouble and pass out. > > > Regards, > > ADA A1C information > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> " But I have not seen research indicating that once one is in the > >>>>>>>>> " normal > >>>>>>>>> range " , additional lowering of one's A1C decreases the probability > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> diabetic complications. " > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The better known complications kick in at the high end of the 6 > >>>>>>>>> range > >>>>>>>>> where > >>>>>>>>> the curve for risk increases greatly. Heart disease and the more > >>>>>>>>> general > >>>>>>>>> cvd risk knows no lower range starting around 5 when the data runs > >>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> research into the matter. the rate is linear with each measure > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> increase from within the normal range. Less researched > >>>>>>>>> complications > >>>>>>>>> such > >>>>>>>>> as erectile function and the neural involvement in feet and bowels > >>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>> have already started to kick in before diagnosis and any > >>>>>>>>> thresholds > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> known. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The a1c is a proxy for glycation in all tissues of the body, not > >>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> blood cells. It affects more long lasting cells such as > >>>>>>>>> connective > >>>>>>>>> tissue > >>>>>>>>> in skin and tendons for example and lead to such things as frozen > >>>>>>>>> shoulder. > >>>>>>>>> Glycation is indirectly related to rate of physical aging and > >>>>>>>>> diabetics > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> often said to be 10 years older then others at the same calendar > >>>>>>>>> age. > >>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> type 2, increased rates of beta cell death and suppression of new > >>>>>>>>> cells > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> a factor. Your statement is only valid for such things as having > >>>>>>>>> limbs > >>>>>>>>> chopped off and losing sight, not heart/stroke and the other > >>>>>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>> mentioned for which there is no lower limit or they are unknown. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> XB > >>>>>>>>> IC|XC > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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