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HI DEBBIE,

DO YOU USE ANY OF THE MESSENGER TYPE THINGS LIKE

OR AOL/AIM? I WAS FORCED INTO " RETIREMENT " FROM THIS

DISEASE AS MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN WELL BUT I HELPED

PEOPLE GET SSI/SSD AT MY JOB. YOU HIT THE MAIN THING

THAT CAN HELP YOU ACTUALLY BUT I'D PREFER TO EMAIL YOU

DIRECTLY ABOUT IT IF THAT IS OK. OTHERWISE, THERE IS

NO SET ANYTHING. WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? MOST ARE

BACKED UP REALLY BAD. AS FAR AS SSD GOES. I WAS

APPROVED FIRST TRY BUT MY SYMPTOMS WERE HORRID BY

THEN. THE WAITING GAME WAS STILL ABOUT 8 MONTHS?

SOMETHIN LIKE THAT. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN

MAYBE SHORTEN IT FOR YOU AND GET YOU HELP IN THE

PROCESS. IN MY OPINION, THE LAWYERS ARE RIP OFF

ARTISTS WHEN IT COMES TO SOC. SEC. CUZ THEY KNOW

EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET APPROVED SO THEY LOVE THAT BACK

PAY.

LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE MESSENGER OR IF YOU MIND BEING

CONTACTED STRAIGHT TO YOU, OK?

DONNA C

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hi i was wondering why do so many people think they need a lawyer to get

their dissability? we went straight to ss office and you would not believe

how nice some of the people are,i believe our lady got us rushed thru

cause it was so simple.So many are taking advantage of the system that when

a person who really needs their disability comes it is a welcome site.Forget

the lawyers wheel your way in there in your chair got nothing to loose. my

brother applied about 10 months after diagnosed got accepted with in 2

months and we requested it be backed up to time he was diagnosed and within

2 - 3 months if that there was a deposit in his account for all the months

since diag have heard some say 8 months a few i heard say 2nd time

applied. me i would go to a thrift store or flea market and find me a 20.00

chair.when brother needed a chair we bought chairs left and right for 20.00

from flea markets.It was cheaper than renting one. We kept it in car for

occassions when brother needed to walk but legs would not cooperate. GOOD

LUCK

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Just to add another experience - I started a major ms episode in June,

2003. I was diagnosed with ms in September, 2003. I applied for Social

Security in January 2004, and was approved in April 2004, effective back

to June.(There is a 6 month waiting period from the effective date

before you are eligible for the first check, and then you have to wait 2

years before you are eligible for medicare.) Everything was done over

the phone and on the internet. I was 56 at the time, and had worked as a

computer consultant. When the rep called to tell me of the approval, I

mentioned that I had heard many stories of people being rejected and

having to get a lawyer to appeal. He told me that one reason many are

rejected is because the paperwork is not filled out correctly or

completely.

Good luck,

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Hi Debbie (plus I'm sending this reply to everyone in case others are also

thinking about this too):

If you are at all thinking about filing for disability, I agree with others

that you don't need a lawyer to help file your initial claim. They'll likely

help you to do it, and you'll have to wait the obligatory 6 months till

benefits kick in after approval. The point I wanted to make is that many

folks make a stupid mistake and retire on disability after cutting back

their hours going part-time for their last couple of years of employment. If

you do this, you're making a big mistake. Disability income will be based on

your last 2 years of employment income, so if you cut your hours and halve

your last years' paychecks, you are shooting yourself in the foot. You want

to file for disability at your highest income level, preferably. (I didn't

know this before I applied a few years ago now, but I lucked out and retired

at their maximum payout level, thankfully.) Then, if they turn your

application down, that's when I'd say you should hire a lawyer to prove your

case.

Best regards, Rae

[low dose naltrexone] SSD

I've been on LDN now for 2 months. I haven't seen any changes so far but

I'm to the point that it is becoming very difficult to do the work. I

called a lawyer and he told me that since the heaviest thing I have to pick

up is a piece of paper, I probably won't qualify.

There are days I find it difficult to even get out of my house and up the

steps to get into my work. From everybody's experience what is the average

time I can expect to wait to get an answer. I'm not married so I have no

other income to rely on while I wait and I don't want to lose my house.

Thanks for your help.

Debbie

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My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on his 49th birthday.

He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney: Wasserman's

firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor the ALJ is next month.

The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have experince in this?

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I went through this about 17 years ago, starting when I was 46 years old. It

was difficult for me since I had been able to do almost anything I wanted,

and my wife didn't quite understand because I didn't look any differently. I

had to wait a couple of years and finally went to the hearing. It took a

long time, but the judge took one look at me and the file and made the

comment, " I don't know why you've been denied " . 2 months later, I got my

first check, a real blessing!

Things are different now but the basics should be the same. You have to

prove the RA stops him from doing things he could before, so I recommend a

calendar be kept and color-coded for good, mid, and bad days. I used green,

yellow, and red on my calendar so we could look at a month's worth at a

time. I didn't even use a lawyer, I represented myself and saved the big

expense of a lawyer's small amount of time. That's just me, I'll do it

myself if I can. I'm sure that will help, so make the calendar and follow

the instructions of the lawyer. Good luck,

Dennis in eastexas

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> My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on his 49th birthday.

> He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney: Wasserman's

> firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor the ALJ is next month.

> The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have experince in this?

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Kathy,

I am going through the same process as you are. I had to finally quit

working because of my RA/fibro. I filled in August and I am still

waiting to hear a final verdict. I already got a lawyer even though I

haven't been denied yet. I am also bi-polar and have some underlying

mental issues as well. My lawyer has already set up a court date

which is about a year away...but I am hoping that I will get approved

sooner rather then later.

Once I hear something, I will definately let you know. Best of luck

to you.

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> My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on his 49th

birthday.

> He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney: Wasserman's

> firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor the ALJ is next

month.

> The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have experince in this?

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When I applied for the third time, after hiring an

attorney I was finally approved for presumption of

disability (meaning I had enough medical evidence but

still had to appear before a judge) They began paying

me my benefits after their decision and when I

appeared in front of the judge a year later she gave

me a fully favorable decision:)

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> Kathy,

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> I am going through the same process as you are. I

> had to finally quit

> working because of my RA/fibro. I filled in August

> and I am still

> waiting to hear a final verdict. I already got a

> lawyer even though I

> haven't been denied yet. I am also bi-polar and

> have some underlying

> mental issues as well. My lawyer has already set up

> a court date

> which is about a year away...but I am hoping that I

> will get approved

> sooner rather then later.

> Once I hear something, I will definately let you

> know. Best of luck

> to you.

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> > My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on

> his 49th

> birthday.

> > He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney:

> Wasserman's

> > firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor

> the ALJ is next

> month.

> > The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have

> experince in this?

> >

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I have never heard of " presumption of disability " before. My PCP,

rheumatologist, and therapist all verified that I can no longer

work. I had to see a mental health specialist that the SSDI wanted

me to see. When I went to the appointment, she had all my medical

records and needed to verify my mental status. After telling her

that I have been living w/ RA/fibro for the past 7 years along w/ bi-

polar, PTSD (botched surgery where I was in the hospital for 6

months, 1 month I was in a coma about 18 months ago) which resulted

in high anxiety and panic. After talking w/ me for about 20 minutes

she said " Honey, there is no way you can go back to work " . So now I

am just playing the waiting game.

When I first found out I had RA, I had my employer take out extra

money to put toward my SSI; because I knew eventually I would have to

apply. I am glad I did that, because I will be getting back more

then most people who apply for SSDI around my age.

I was reading your other post and when I went to Orlando for a week,

I thought the humidity would kill me. I was able to walk around for

the most part, granted I made sure to take a medrol dose pak w/

me...but I was able to function. If I had too, I would move back to

Southern California. Thanks.

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> > > My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on

> > his 49th

> > birthday.

> > > He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney:

> > Wasserman's

> > > firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor

> > the ALJ is next

> > month.

> > > The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have

> > experince in this?

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I have been going through this process for over 3 years. I have RA,

OA, fibro, IBS, kidney dysfunction, depression. I applied when I

could no longer work, was denied, appealed, was denied, and am now in

my final appeal. It can take up to 3 years for the final appeal to

be heard. I really don't ever expect to get it, but I certainly

won't quit now. We have gone through all of my 401K and lost our

home since we bagan this process. I feel the entire process is

flawed and unfair. The appeal hearing officer said in his decision

that I could work at something, and I think if I can't do the job I

had had for many years that should be taken into account, but he

didn't. They don't care of you have to go from a decent paying

professional job to a minimum wage paying job. They don't care about

the people at all. I could go on for hours.

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> > My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months ago, on his 49th

> birthday.

> > He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an attorney:

Wasserman's

> > firm. We just got notice that our hearing befor the ALJ is next

> month.

> > The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have experince in this?

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I hadn't heard of it either..then one day they phoned

me and asked me to come down to the local office to

sign papers (after my attorney began sending in all of

my medical records). After I signed the papers, they

began my disability the following month. She

explained that I had the medical evidence supporting

my case but that I would still need to go in front of

the judge. They paid me all of that time, and gave me

some back SSI as well as the SSDI. Then when I went

in front of the judge a year later, she just asked me

questions on my disability the RA and Fibro and other

health issues, and about my panic. So hopefully they

can do that for you as well!!:)

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> I have never heard of " presumption of disability "

> before. My PCP,

> rheumatologist, and therapist all verified that I

> can no longer

> work. I had to see a mental health specialist that

> the SSDI wanted

> me to see. When I went to the appointment, she had

> all my medical

> records and needed to verify my mental status.

> After telling her

> that I have been living w/ RA/fibro for the past 7

> years along w/ bi-

> polar, PTSD (botched surgery where I was in the

> hospital for 6

> months, 1 month I was in a coma about 18 months ago)

> which resulted

> in high anxiety and panic. After talking w/ me for

> about 20 minutes

> she said " Honey, there is no way you can go back to

> work " . So now I

> am just playing the waiting game.

> When I first found out I had RA, I had my employer

> take out extra

> money to put toward my SSI; because I knew

> eventually I would have to

> apply. I am glad I did that, because I will be

> getting back more

> then most people who apply for SSDI around my age.

> I was reading your other post and when I went to

> Orlando for a week,

> I thought the humidity would kill me. I was able to

> walk around for

> the most part, granted I made sure to take a medrol

> dose pak w/

> me...but I was able to function. If I had too, I

> would move back to

> Southern California. Thanks.

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> > > > My husband was diagnosed with RA 25 months

> ago, on

> > > his 49th

> > > birthday.

> > > > He's been denied SSD 2 times. We have an

> attorney:

> > > Wasserman's

> > > > firm. We just got notice that our hearing

> befor

> > > the ALJ is next

> > > month.

> > > > The judge is Sally Reason. Does anyone have

> > > experince in this?

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I thought I would a couple of cents in to the SSA discussion.

Although RA is listed in SSA's Blue Book of qualifying disabilities,

there are still criteria for the effects of RA to be qualifying. So

if you are thinking about applying for SSDI or SSI, you might want to

go to www.ssa.gov and look up the blue book in their disability

section. I would also print it out and give your doctor a copy if

they don't already have one.

Being disabled is just one of the qualifying factors in being granted

Disability from SSA. The next is being able to work. SSA takes into

account your age, location, and your education. Being 38 with a PhD

in AstroPhysics, living next to NASA, and having disabling RA, you

might have a hard time getting SSDI. Being 48, with a 6th grade

education, in a small town with a high unemployment rate, and having

disabling RA, you are going to have a easier time being approved for

SSDI. Oh, and their do not just take into account your being able to

work the job you had/have. Their look at your being able to do

Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA), which is work that makes about

$840 a month. Ten dollars an hour, that's a part-time job. So you

need to prove that you can not work any job that makes more than that.

Bottom line, you have to prove to SSA that you cannot work. Proving

the disability is actually easier. The one place where you have

control over proving your ability to work is on the application and

what you attach to the application and send in to SSA. Important

things to remember. You are describing your worst days. This is not

the time to be polite and positive. If you can't climb up the stairs,

say it, - not - I can climb up the stair some of the time. If typing

causes pain, say it. Do a before RA and after RA description of a

work day. The SSDI application has about a half page for extra

information, I suggest using the words " See Attached " on that section.

Disability Determination Evaluator can not read minds. Use your

words and a lot of them, describe how a work day affected you, what

you could do before RA, and what you are left with now. Also, you

might also want to have a friend edit your writing, and proofread for

spelling and grammar.

Being approved without going through an appeals process, and without a

lawyer is possible. I know I did it. Yes, I was shocked too. I

expected to have it take years. But again, I added about 6 pages on

information to the application.

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I am going to recommend a couple of websites to go to:

One is the But you don't look sick site, In the Social Security boards

is very good information on why people do and don't get approved, and

information on what to include in your application. We help each

other out in the application processes, and support each other in the

process.

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=32 & sid=7f31c1070175e442\

40877bf82fb3c9ed

For basic information on the SSDI and SSI process, go directly to the

source, the Social Security Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/d & s1.htm

And for information on if you particular disease or ailment is

covered, look up the Blue Book. The blue book lists not only the

types of issues that you do not have to prove can be disabling,but

also to what degree you have to be impaired to qualify. Don't worry

if your particular illness is not on the list, as you need to prove to

the SSA that your particular illness has effected your daily life to

the point of no being about to work.

http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/index.htm

Finally, it is very possible to get approved on the first try. But

you have to do your homework, and give the SSA all the information

they need to make the determination. Or as I have told several people

appling for SSDI, SSA can not read your mind or feel your pain. You

need to put it into words for them. That's where the two most

important words on the SSDI paperwork are " SEE ATTACHED " , and then use

your words to explain how your disease has effected you. What could

you do before and what can you do now.

I'll go back to lurking now, if you have any questions, email me or

post them here.

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Some good information. Thank you very much. I have applied for Social Security

online

but have not had an interview yet. I have the mer rel forms to

return ot them and will include some other info that I have.

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You can file your initial application over the telephone on an 800#

while you are gathering all of the information for the 2d part of

intake and apps, which is what it sounds like you are doing right now.

Just remember!!! SS intentionally refuses/denies 60-80% of ALL apps, no matter

how well put together they are. DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED!! When the denial comes,

make certain that you file for the appeal within 60 days. Most attorneys will

not even take your case until you get to this particular point and consider this

the " appellate process " . It may take forever, but in the end, you should get

back pay to your onset date (determined by SS, not you, your Dr, or your atty).

Some believe quite strongly that one way they are now trying to save money is to

squeeze onset dates to as close as the decision as possible. That way, you don't

receive a huge Social Security lump sum of backpay, but you still get approved.

Keep asking questions until you are satisfied!! Cheryl M.

Cheryl M.

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Four years ago I went to an attorney who specializes in SSD cases.  He told me

to expect to be denied several times and end up going to court but I WOULD get

approved eventually and that all I had to pay him was a percentage of my back

pay.  He did ALL the paperwork..I didn't have to do anything and wonder of

wonders and to the glory of God I was approved the very first try.  I didn't

have to pay the attorney anything!  I also did not get any back pay because they

approved me on first try.  I applied in October and was approved in April.  The

company I was working for when I had to quit in order to apply kept paying me

through the end of the year.  My husband was still working and it wasn't a huge

burden on us that I wasn't working or receiving any pay from January to April.

We just watched our money real close.  I had worked for 40 years and was 59 and

not that far from retirement.   I guess SS figured my case was so well

documented that

they may as well go ahead and approve me and save money on back pay.  Anyway, I

bought my attorney a nice gift to say thank you.  He wouldn't even discuss any

pay for it!  I was blessed! 

Sharon Hanna <hanna1946@...>

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Ve,

 

Yes, I think you can get your SSD with those diagnoses as long as you have a

doctor in your corner.  Is your rheumatologist or PCP willing to back you up as

far as the disability goes?  Mine was and I did not need a lawyer and I was

never denied.  I got it immediately and we have very similar diagnoses.  Of

course, hopefully your x-rays and lab work will also back you up.  Mine did. 

Good luck.  Don't be so scared of the system.  The experience I had was not a

terrible one.  The people at SS office were very nice to me.  Good luck. 

 

Tracie in Maine

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My Doc. says shes thinks I have a very good chance to receive it.

I have not ask my rhumy yet.

Yes, all my blood test are the way they find this all out.

So, we shall see.

Thanks

Ve

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> Ve,

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> Yes, I think you can get your SSD with those diagnoses as long as you have a

doctor in your corner.  Is your rheumatologist or PCP willing to back you up as

far as the disability goes?  Mine was and I did not need a lawyer and I was

never denied.  I got it immediately and we have very similar diagnoses.  Of

course, hopefully your x-rays and lab work will also back you up.  Mine did. 

Good luck.  Don't be so scared of the system.  The experience I had was not a

terrible one.  The people at SS office were very nice to me.  Good luck. 

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