Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 I have found that alternative treatments have done wonders for me but without modern Medicine I would have been dead long ago. Many people died from Tuberculosis and pneumonia, easily treated conditions today plus many other illnesses because there was no modern medicine. I wouldn't want to live without modern medicine. Plus people died in surgery, not as many do today. I believe in both. > I no longer believe in Modern Medicine. I believe that despite all the > super technology and elite bedside manner….the greatest danger to your > health is the doctor who practices Modern Medicine. I believe that Modern > Medicine’s treatments for disease are seldom effective, and that they’re > often more dangerous than the disease they’re designed to treat. I believe > more than 90% of Modern Medicine could disappear from the face of the > earth---doctors, hospitals, drugs and equipment---and the effect on our > health would be immediate & beneficial……Modern Medicine can’t survive > without our faith, because Modern Medicine is neither an art nor a science. > It’s a religion. " ---Dr Mendelsohn, M.D. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:29:50 EDT From: JFA1298@... Subject: Re: Modern Medicine > I have found that alternative treatments have done wonders for me but >without modern Medicine I would have been dead long ago. Many people died >from Tuberculosis and pneumonia, easily treated conditions today I am also one of those who would not be alive, if there was no modern medicine. BUT that is not the point here. Just the fact that modern medicne saved your life is not proofe that some other medicine would fail !!! If, you have had access to it !!! If my mother knew about any other doctor, therapist, or any other treatment, could that save my life ??? But, she was brain washed, just like most people, and she only knew for MD. And, side efects ? The point is that modern medicine have suppressed development of all the other branches. Not only supressed, but totaly forbid practicing many other forms of medicine. ---------------------------------------------------- Complete population of the world is BRAINWASHED. Brain washed to believe in modern medicine, and to not believe in any other possibility. BRAINWASHED to be scared of any other possibilty. BRAINWASHED to be scared of QUACKS. BRAINWASHED the same way as those who were piloting plains yesterday, BRAINWASHED to believe that wat they are ding is RIGHT. BRAINWASHED the same way as those who are piloting war plains, bombing Iraq, BRAINWASHED to believe that wat they are ding is RIGHT. BRAINWASHING WORKS. It works DANGEROUSLY. It works to the point that people are willing to give their life to do the RIGHT THING. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- I know, from personal experience, and from experience of my friends, that Tuberculosis or pneumonia or many other diseases are easily preventable and even curable diseases vithout encapsulated antibiotics. Curable by natural medicine. YOU DO NOT NEED MODERN medicin to cure Tuberculosis or pneumonia. THAT IS BRAINWASHING, and it works. Things that works for those diseases: Better diet (No sugar, no processed foods, no foods patient doesn't tolerate) combined with homeopatic medicine or herbal medicine (natural antibiotics) in the form of : black walnut green hul, wormwood, cloves, tobacco , grapefruit kernel extract, olive leaf extract, salvia, ... , liver cleanse, parasites cleanse, dental cleanup.... And, what about side efects of antibiotics treatment ? Why do we have an epidemic of chronic diseases like MS, Psoriasis, Eczema, Allergies, Asthma, Colitis, ADD-ADHD, Epilepsy .... ? What about candidasis that is caused by antibiotics, Leaky Gut that is caused by candidasis. MS, Psoriasis, Eczema, Allergies, Asthma that have LeakyGut as most common causative agent ? GOOD AND BAD ARE ALWAYS TOGETHER. Medal always have two sides. Regards Agnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Hi Agnes, I do understand what you mean but hundreds of years ago they didn't have modern medicine and they did use other types of medications. That is why most people died from such Illnesses like TB and pneumonia. So they didn't work as well as modern medicines. Don't get me wrong, I find that most herbs help me better than modern medicine but if I had a terminal illness, I would want modern medicine along with alternative medicine. I'm open to all types of medication. I truly believe in alternative methods and medicines but I'm also glad that there is modern medicine. I do have to say that I always had chronic sinus infections and nothing helped me. Antibiotics did, but only until I stopped taking them. Well, I now take many herbs and Thank God I don't get sick half as much, so I would stand by these herbs over the modern treatments for sinus and allergies. Plus I take St s Wort and they help me much more than Prozac. Prozac and all the other antidepressant's made me to nervous. St s Wort works more naturally and I have no side affects. I do agree with you, I'm just saying that I'm glad we have both. I'm all for alternative treatments. I swear by them. Plus there are so many I don't even know about. I just learned about Dr s treatments and I still haven't read them all. I'm sorry if I sounded like a mean grump when I wrote to you, I wasn't in the best mood. I have been having a lot of problems but I shouldn't take it out on you or anyone. Sorry Agnes. God Bless You, > Just the fact that modern medicne saved your life is not proofe that some > other medicine would fail !!! > If, you have had access to it !!! > > > If my mother knew about any other doctor, therapist, or any other > treatment, could that save my life ??? > > But, she was brain washed, just like most people, and she only knew for MD. > > > And, side efects ? > > The point is that modern medicine have suppressed development of all the > other branches. > Not only supressed, but totaly forbid practicing many other forms of > medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Hi , > I do have to say that I always > had chronic sinus infections and nothing helped me. Antibiotics did, but only > until I stopped taking them. Well, I now take many herbs and Thank God I > don't get sick half as much, so I would stand by these herbs over the modern > treatments for sinus and allergies. Could you tell me what you use to help you with the sinus infections? Or maybe where I can find more info about it. thank you! Ilana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 In a message dated 9/14/2001 6:02:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ilana@... writes: > Could you tell me what you use to help you with the sinus infections? Or > maybe where I can find more info about it. > > thank you! > > Ilana Hi, I just would like to say that I can't get rid of Sinus infections if I get one but I don't seem to get them that much anymore. I found that I had to build my Immunities up. If I do get an infection I still take antibiotics but not half as much. OK, I'll tell you what I take, this is a list so I hope you are ready, LOL. It really helps me though. I take Echinacea & Goldenseal Complex, 2500 Mgs of Garlic Tablets, that is 2 pills. 120 mgs of Ginko Biloba, 100 mgs of Ginseng, omega 3 Polyunsaturated tablets, Flax seed is also very good for this, I think I might try that. Papaya Enzyme, Astragulas, Two Multiple Vitamins , 3 or 4000 vitamin C,s a day, one 400 IU vitamin E a day, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B6. I also have read that a good tonic for the flu is elderberry. I intend on taking this during the flu season. I just read that another good cold and flu formula is---- Oregano Oil, Olive leaf, Golden Seal, Garlic, Echinacea, Astragalas, zinc and Vitamin C. I never tried this combination but I do take a lot of these already. I think I'm just going to add the Elderberry. It is known to help prevent or get rid of the flu quickly. These herbs and Vitamins really do help my Allergies and Sinuses. Honest. I don't have to live on antibiotics anymore. Oh yes, I do have to take them occasionally, but I used to take them every month, I mean a lot of them. I hope this helps you. Oh yea, I also take St. s Wort which also helps the Immune system. I take it for depression, but it helps the immune system supposedly. I also take Milk Thistle which helps support the Liver. I don't know if you would need all of these, but they sure have helped me. Good luck and God Bless You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Hi Steve, I know that I'm going to sound totally stupid but what are probiotics? I really don't know and it sounds like I need to take them. Thank You so much, PS. With all I'm taking, I just had to take Antibiotics again. I had no chose. I got real sick. > Hopefully with all of the antibiotics you are taking/have taken you are > taking regular doses of probiotics (acidophilus, etc.)! > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Something to be thankful for. I was just diagnosed in 2007 and so have not been dealing with RA as long as many of you. I've also been fortunate in that MTX started working for me almost immediately. I still have to see where this journey takes me but... I am incredibly thankful for new advances in medicine that now make me hopeful that this disease can be arrested and controlled. I am 48 now. When I was a child in the 60s I can remember visiting my great-grandmother. I think she was in her late 80s/early 90s. She had been suffering from RA for years (it runs pretty strongly in my family). This woman could not use her hands at all and they were horribly deformed. She could not turn her head, and could not walk without the aid of a walker. Even the walker was so painful that she rarely stood up or moved around. As a young child, I had no idea why this woman terrified me so. She was always incredibly cranky and unhappy. As an adult, and especially as an adult with RA, I now understand that she lived a life of restriction and pain. I am so grateful that, even if my disease progresses, modern medicine will most likely prevent it from ever becoming the monster that it was for my great-grandmother. I'm tired beyond tired, and achey, and frequently hurting....but it's still far better than when my great- grandmother was dealing with RA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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