Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > do you still create > recipes? do you have the ability to take a 'regular' recipe and turn it > into diabetic friendlly? > I could....but my philosophy of food is NOT to imitate something else. For example, I don't understand vegetarians who buy fake hot dogs and hamburgers. There are plenty of vegetarian foods that taste wonderful in their own right. I'd rather have some vegetable curry or felafels or tofu stirfry. So far, every dinner I have cooked since diagnosis has been for all of us. Last night I sort of held my breath while testing 2 hours after supper....but it was only 99. I made chili. It's the first time I have tried beans while testing my bg. I cooked a pound of sausage with a couple of Vidalia onions, carrots, beans, spices, a bit of tomato with melted cheese on top. On the side we had salad, sour cream and avocados. I did homemade bread for and . Tonight I am making Bay Scallop Chowder. The recipe calls for 3 cubed potatoes. I will just add more onion, celery and carrot. At this point, I still do not believe in buying/eating engineered low carb foods that mimic " regular " food and I do not use fake sweeteners. I do not want to crave sweetness or baked goods. I want to learn to savor the sweetness that naturally occurs in fruits and vegetables. I want to learn to do without traditional baked goods. I never eat snacks, so there's not even a time I'd want a fake candy bar. Today I went grocery shopping. I bought chicken, scallops, pork and beef in big portions, then repacked them for the freezer. There were 31 meals worth. Then, I spend smaller amounts weekly on fresh fruits and vegetables. It sure will be nice when our garden is producing ;-) A couple of weeks ago, we spent $40 on 20 lbs. of cheese at a discount cheese outlet. Good ol' Cabot and Grafton, VT cheddar. I have two 15 cubic foot freezers and an 8x8 root cellar, plus shelves of staples. This way, I can cook just about anything on the spur of the moment. It's about 30 miles round trip to the grocery store. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > do you still create > recipes? do you have the ability to take a 'regular' recipe and turn it > into diabetic friendlly? > I could....but my philosophy of food is NOT to imitate something else. For example, I don't understand vegetarians who buy fake hot dogs and hamburgers. There are plenty of vegetarian foods that taste wonderful in their own right. I'd rather have some vegetable curry or felafels or tofu stirfry. So far, every dinner I have cooked since diagnosis has been for all of us. Last night I sort of held my breath while testing 2 hours after supper....but it was only 99. I made chili. It's the first time I have tried beans while testing my bg. I cooked a pound of sausage with a couple of Vidalia onions, carrots, beans, spices, a bit of tomato with melted cheese on top. On the side we had salad, sour cream and avocados. I did homemade bread for and . Tonight I am making Bay Scallop Chowder. The recipe calls for 3 cubed potatoes. I will just add more onion, celery and carrot. At this point, I still do not believe in buying/eating engineered low carb foods that mimic " regular " food and I do not use fake sweeteners. I do not want to crave sweetness or baked goods. I want to learn to savor the sweetness that naturally occurs in fruits and vegetables. I want to learn to do without traditional baked goods. I never eat snacks, so there's not even a time I'd want a fake candy bar. Today I went grocery shopping. I bought chicken, scallops, pork and beef in big portions, then repacked them for the freezer. There were 31 meals worth. Then, I spend smaller amounts weekly on fresh fruits and vegetables. It sure will be nice when our garden is producing ;-) A couple of weeks ago, we spent $40 on 20 lbs. of cheese at a discount cheese outlet. Good ol' Cabot and Grafton, VT cheddar. I have two 15 cubic foot freezers and an 8x8 root cellar, plus shelves of staples. This way, I can cook just about anything on the spur of the moment. It's about 30 miles round trip to the grocery store. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > > At this point, I still do not believe in buying/eating engineered low carb > foods that mimic " regular " food and I do not use fake sweeteners. I do not > want to crave sweetness or baked goods. I want to learn to savor the > then can i impose? if you come up with something that works for you, would you share your recipe, whether it's your own, or a modification. i'm mostly just sauteeing stuff. i must have a gazillion recipes, but most calls for sugar, or flour, or something that we can't have, and i am not sure what to substitute. i love your being on this list and really do envy all your knowledge. and when i find what i can eat, or like, i plan on visiting Costco and purchasing. but i only have the little top of a freezer, and of course no root cellar, so i can't buy in huge quantities (except for tuna, beans, etc.) pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > > At this point, I still do not believe in buying/eating engineered low carb > foods that mimic " regular " food and I do not use fake sweeteners. I do not > want to crave sweetness or baked goods. I want to learn to savor the > then can i impose? if you come up with something that works for you, would you share your recipe, whether it's your own, or a modification. i'm mostly just sauteeing stuff. i must have a gazillion recipes, but most calls for sugar, or flour, or something that we can't have, and i am not sure what to substitute. i love your being on this list and really do envy all your knowledge. and when i find what i can eat, or like, i plan on visiting Costco and purchasing. but i only have the little top of a freezer, and of course no root cellar, so i can't buy in huge quantities (except for tuna, beans, etc.) pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > then can i impose? if you come up with something that works for you, would > > you share your recipe, whether it's your own, or a modification. i'm > mostly > just sauteeing stuff. i must have a gazillion recipes, but most calls for > > sugar, or flour, or something that we can't have, and i am not sure what to > > substitute. i love your being on this list and really do envy all your > knowledge. > Here's tonight's supper .... http://www.simply-recipes.com/bay_scallop_chowder.htm sub carrots, celery, onions for potatoes Give me an idea of what you want to eat. I'd just leave out the bad stuff and/or add good stuff. If you want to make chicken fried steak....I'd say forget it. If you want to eat mashed potatoes, I would just steam another vegetable and enjoy it for itself. If you want roast beef and vegies, just don't add potatoes. If you want cookies, learn to adore fruit salad. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 > then can i impose? if you come up with something that works for you, would > > you share your recipe, whether it's your own, or a modification. i'm > mostly > just sauteeing stuff. i must have a gazillion recipes, but most calls for > > sugar, or flour, or something that we can't have, and i am not sure what to > > substitute. i love your being on this list and really do envy all your > knowledge. > Here's tonight's supper .... http://www.simply-recipes.com/bay_scallop_chowder.htm sub carrots, celery, onions for potatoes Give me an idea of what you want to eat. I'd just leave out the bad stuff and/or add good stuff. If you want to make chicken fried steak....I'd say forget it. If you want to eat mashed potatoes, I would just steam another vegetable and enjoy it for itself. If you want roast beef and vegies, just don't add potatoes. If you want cookies, learn to adore fruit salad. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 I was reading through the articles from Diabetes Interview magazine that are posted on their web site and came across this one. I'd love to hear comments from this group. http://www.diabetesinterview.com/archive/september/sept1-00print.html Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 i'm on the lowcarb website list (it was recommended here and i ran) and a 'simple diabetic' recipes list. i'm guessing that there are tons of stuff out there if i just plug it in the search engines. thanks. pat > > There's an online lowcarb recipe list through Carbsmart...join up (no > charge > of course) and you'll get all kinds of lowcarb recipes almost every day. > Try > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 i'm on the lowcarb website list (it was recommended here and i ran) and a 'simple diabetic' recipes list. i'm guessing that there are tons of stuff out there if i just plug it in the search engines. thanks. pat > > There's an online lowcarb recipe list through Carbsmart...join up (no > charge > of course) and you'll get all kinds of lowcarb recipes almost every day. > Try > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 well, i love fried potatoes, but forget that. i just planted 6 squash plants and i adore squash. i'd love to be able to make up a casserole (i have a favorite, but it uses lots of Pepperidge Stuffing mix). i like tuna casseroles; hamburger casseroles, chicken casseroles (i just like to make up large quantities and freeze it). i adore pot pies; chili; cheesecake. my fav vegies are; broccoli, green beans, tomatoes, SQUASH, eggplant, mushrooms, and i adore chinese and italian. i'd love to figure out a way to have tomato sauces over pasta, but i don' think the pasta agrees with my BP. and i could eat my weight in brownies. but for me, i'd appreciate any successful recipe anyone has. most of the recipes i'm known for are potatoes, corn, and all the things i can't have. pat > > Give me an idea of what you want to eat. I'd just leave out the bad stuff > and/or add good stuff. If you want to make chicken fried steak....I'd say > forget it. If you want to eat mashed potatoes, I would just steam another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 You can join the CarbSmart Lowcarb Recipe Exchange and get lowcarb recipes in your email almost every day. Try connecting to www.carbsmart.com. Then find lowcarb recipe exchange (or something similar) and sign up. Simple! If this doesn't work let me know and I'll try to be more specific. I joined so long ago that I don't remember the mechanics. However, I do have online folders of many, many saved recipes, smile. Vicki In a message dated 06/14/2002 1:59:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, pat0829@... writes: > but for me, i'd appreciate any successful recipe anyone has. most of the > recipes i'm known for are potatoes, corn, and all the things i can't have. > > pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 i joined last week, but haven't gotten any emails. i'll recheck and see if there's something else i need to do. and anyone that would like to share their recipe files, i'd love to have them. pat > > so long ago that I don't remember the mechanics. However, I do have online > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 well, i don't do the 'helper' things, but i do love the casseroles with either tomatoes, or potatoes/corn/rice. i can't think of one single casserole that i DID, that does not have some sorta pasta or starchy something. i'm gonna try done stuff like chicken divan or those dishes, that are sorta like casseroles, but not really. those are so darn easy, and you just take the leftovers out of the freezer. but i now fix 2-3 porkchops at a time; or boil up chicken and freeze it. then, if i want something done, i have it. i think i'll concentrate on some squash casserole or souffles or things to use up the fresh summer goodies; maybe ratatouille (after i check my BS); or even eggplant parmesan (same thing--need to check). and then this winter, i will have tons of good stuff. BTW, i FINALLY trashed my bananas. i decided it was less than $10, and even tho' i detest throwing away food, i decided that smelling fresh baked banana muffins would not work, and i would have to test them. i saved 3-4, a decided that i might cook those much later (or not) depending on how much i needed the space in my freezer. pat > > Casseroles and XXX helper type things are going to be more difficult to > manage. You might substitute cauliflower for the starches in them, and see > > if that works for you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 Well, since real chili (according to the Texan I married) doesn't have anything in it except meat and sauce, you should be able to eat plenty of that. I eat lots of yellow squash and zucchini with no ill effects, but my favorite is spaghetti squash. It substitutes for pasta pretty well, and you can put any regular pasta sauce over it. Casseroles and XXX helper type things are going to be more difficult to manage. You might substitute cauliflower for the starches in them, and see if that works for you. Robin G. >From: pat0829@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: Low Carb vs. Pyramid >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:57:27 EDT > >well, i love fried potatoes, but forget that. i just planted 6 squash >plants and i adore squash. i'd love to be able to make up a casserole (i >have a favorite, but it uses lots of Pepperidge Stuffing mix). i like >tuna >casseroles; hamburger casseroles, chicken casseroles (i just like to make >up >large quantities and freeze it). i adore pot pies; chili; cheesecake. >my >fav vegies are; broccoli, green beans, tomatoes, SQUASH, eggplant, >mushrooms, and i adore chinese and italian. i'd love to figure out a way >to >have tomato sauces over pasta, but i don' think the pasta agrees with my >BP. > and i could eat my weight in brownies. > >but for me, i'd appreciate any successful recipe anyone has. most of the >recipes i'm known for are potatoes, corn, and all the things i can't have. >pat > > > > > > Give me an idea of what you want to eat. I'd just leave out the bad >stuff > > and/or add good stuff. If you want to make chicken fried steak....I'd >say > > forget it. If you want to eat mashed potatoes, I would just steam >another > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 Well, since real chili (according to the Texan I married) doesn't have anything in it except meat and sauce, you should be able to eat plenty of that. I eat lots of yellow squash and zucchini with no ill effects, but my favorite is spaghetti squash. It substitutes for pasta pretty well, and you can put any regular pasta sauce over it. Casseroles and XXX helper type things are going to be more difficult to manage. You might substitute cauliflower for the starches in them, and see if that works for you. Robin G. >From: pat0829@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: Low Carb vs. Pyramid >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:57:27 EDT > >well, i love fried potatoes, but forget that. i just planted 6 squash >plants and i adore squash. i'd love to be able to make up a casserole (i >have a favorite, but it uses lots of Pepperidge Stuffing mix). i like >tuna >casseroles; hamburger casseroles, chicken casseroles (i just like to make >up >large quantities and freeze it). i adore pot pies; chili; cheesecake. >my >fav vegies are; broccoli, green beans, tomatoes, SQUASH, eggplant, >mushrooms, and i adore chinese and italian. i'd love to figure out a way >to >have tomato sauces over pasta, but i don' think the pasta agrees with my >BP. > and i could eat my weight in brownies. > >but for me, i'd appreciate any successful recipe anyone has. most of the >recipes i'm known for are potatoes, corn, and all the things i can't have. >pat > > > > > > Give me an idea of what you want to eat. I'd just leave out the bad >stuff > > and/or add good stuff. If you want to make chicken fried steak....I'd >say > > forget it. If you want to eat mashed potatoes, I would just steam >another > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 > those are so darn easy, and you > just take the leftovers out of the freezer. > I'm really into using a crockpot! On days when I'm at doc offices (several times a week) or know I'm going to be just too tired, I cook a crockpot meal. <<BTW, i FINALLY trashed my bananas. >> Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots of mornings my breakfast is milk, a banana and 10 cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or 90's. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 > those are so darn easy, and you > just take the leftovers out of the freezer. > I'm really into using a crockpot! On days when I'm at doc offices (several times a week) or know I'm going to be just too tired, I cook a crockpot meal. <<BTW, i FINALLY trashed my bananas. >> Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots of mornings my breakfast is milk, a banana and 10 cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or 90's. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 > those are so darn easy, and you > just take the leftovers out of the freezer. > I'm really into using a crockpot! On days when I'm at doc offices (several times a week) or know I'm going to be just too tired, I cook a crockpot meal. <<BTW, i FINALLY trashed my bananas. >> Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots of mornings my breakfast is milk, a banana and 10 cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or 90's. (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 actually, i didn't test. i don't care for fresh bananas. i love them baked in muffins, or in a daiquiri. i had saved these because they were too ripe, and had frozen them. decided i didn't need to bake muffins. pat > > Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots of mornings my > breakfast > is milk, a banana and 10 cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or > 90's. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 actually, i didn't test. i don't care for fresh bananas. i love them baked in muffins, or in a daiquiri. i had saved these because they were too ripe, and had frozen them. decided i didn't need to bake muffins. pat > > Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots of mornings my > breakfast > is milk, a banana and 10 cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or > 90's. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hello wsm311@..., In reference to your comment: ð Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots ð of mornings my breakfast is milk, a banana and 10 ð cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or 90's. , this is because you are barely diabetic, ie your bs levels are not very high even after eating carbs.... Many of us who cannot tolerate a lot of carbs, can't do one inch of bananna's without goign thru the roof in our BS levels.... Those of us who do eat more carbs, often do it, but also take medications... Enjoy this period, it may be a honeymoon stage, or it may be that you were diagnosed way early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hello wsm311@..., In reference to your comment: ð Did you get high bg readings from them? Bummer! Lots ð of mornings my breakfast is milk, a banana and 10 ð cashews. It leaves me with a bg in the 80's or 90's. , this is because you are barely diabetic, ie your bs levels are not very high even after eating carbs.... Many of us who cannot tolerate a lot of carbs, can't do one inch of bananna's without goign thru the roof in our BS levels.... Those of us who do eat more carbs, often do it, but also take medications... Enjoy this period, it may be a honeymoon stage, or it may be that you were diagnosed way early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 > , this is because you are barely diabetic, ie your bs levels are not > very high even after eating carbs.... Is that like being barely pregnant? ;-) Before I knew to eat better, my A1c was 7.0....or an average of 153. If that was my AVERAGE, I hate to think of how high it was going. I do not eat many carbs now. No bread, potatoes, rice only twice and sweet potato once. If I ate stuff like that, I would have a high bs. With excercise and a low carb diet, I'm doing pretty well. The diabetes educator says I am diagnosed way late, that docs should have paid more attention after I had a 9 1/2 lb kid 18 years ago. She also said that if bg is consistantly over 110, a person should be considered diabetic and treated ASAP. I'm lucky in that meds were driving up my bs. I stopped 3 diuretics and the prednisone and another, megace, was cut by 3/4's. I went out to a Father's Day brunch today and ate some forbidden carbs. I shopped and strolled around town for 3 hours and my bs was nice and low ;-) I was afraid to see the results....but walking sure helps! I walk with a cane and was pretty tottery, but managed to walk that long. A new record for me lately. Tomorrow I will pay.... (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 > , this is because you are barely diabetic, ie your bs levels are not > very high even after eating carbs.... Is that like being barely pregnant? ;-) Before I knew to eat better, my A1c was 7.0....or an average of 153. If that was my AVERAGE, I hate to think of how high it was going. I do not eat many carbs now. No bread, potatoes, rice only twice and sweet potato once. If I ate stuff like that, I would have a high bs. With excercise and a low carb diet, I'm doing pretty well. The diabetes educator says I am diagnosed way late, that docs should have paid more attention after I had a 9 1/2 lb kid 18 years ago. She also said that if bg is consistantly over 110, a person should be considered diabetic and treated ASAP. I'm lucky in that meds were driving up my bs. I stopped 3 diuretics and the prednisone and another, megace, was cut by 3/4's. I went out to a Father's Day brunch today and ate some forbidden carbs. I shopped and strolled around town for 3 hours and my bs was nice and low ;-) I was afraid to see the results....but walking sure helps! I walk with a cane and was pretty tottery, but managed to walk that long. A new record for me lately. Tomorrow I will pay.... (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 I have a whole bookshelf full of library books about diabetes. Since it has been cold and raining, we have all been sitting around the woodstove most nights this week. I have spent my time going through each book. It's fun to see the differences from year to year of publishing and the many, many different viewpoints. Tonight I was reading Diabetes Mellitus: A Practical Handbook by Milchovich and Long. I was astounded at the meal plans. Here are some sample meals.... breakfast 3/4 cup Cheerios, 1 slice ww toast, 1 banana, margarine, 1 cup skim milk snack 1/2 bagel, 1 banana, 1 cup skim milk, margarine If even a bit of banana drives up the bg for many diabetics, following this ADA diet wouldn't be too healthy! I also noticed that the older the book, the higher an acceptable bg is. From all of this, it sounds like beliefs and facts must change on a regular basis about us diabetics. No wonder it is all so confusing! (wsm311@...) Peace and Carrots Farm Vermont http://www.homestead.com/peaceandcarrots/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VermontHomesteaders/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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