Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 I > That false perception is even more prevalent when it comes to type 2 > diabetes. > Sue>>> > Does gaining too much weight or being overweight contribute to the likelihood of type 2 diabetes in some people? If so, I would think some people have some control over it? It was true in my father's case...he took the weight off, and the diabetes went with it. When he gains too much, it comes back! It is gone now, fortunately. He is 88 and walks a mile every day. Thanks, Pris (who should be walking, too!) ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002\ 5 48) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 i'm glad you brought the subject up. there might be 2 or 3 people that has ra in one joint. i am the only one withit everywhere. i beleive that after years of holding my feelings in my body couldn't take the stress any longer and turned on itself. i use to think no matter how sick i was i would eventually get better. i haven't been in the hospital since i had my tonsils out at 2 years old. nothing worse than the flu. i thought i could get pass ra too but soon learned different thank you take care <man_u8@...> wrote: , I have been told the same thing as . I am the only person in my family who has RA, so no one in my family really understands what I am going through. They think that I need to " tough it out " and I am just being a baby about the pain and fatigue. I have a great husband who understands, so I have his support and I have found this support group online is great. I was diagnosed w/ RA a few months after I got hit by a car as a pedestrian. My orginal rheumy told me that car accident " triggered " my RA. After talking to others w/ RA, I think that is a load of crap. Your post was refreshing to hear. Thanks. > > No offense to you or your doctor, but I think it's crap. I'm a PhD psychologist and autoimmune diseases run in my family. I hate the idea that people with autoimmune issues somehow " caused " their disease. I was in a trauma conference once and this idea came up and I was so mad I could have spit. I have a genetic susceptibility and my body (and all of yours too) has been bombarded by environmental chemicals, hormones in the food system, vaccines, and viruses - to name just a few insults. I think those influences interacting with genetics are clearly related to the development of RA -- not an unfulfilling or abusive childhood. That said, if you have a history of abuse issues, clearly you're going to feel better if you work through them with therapy and medication. Stress can only exacerbate any organic illness, but that does not mean the stress *caused* the illness. > > > [ ] Family of Origin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My new doctor, who specializes in integrative approaches to medicine > > has been working with me on the psychological issues relating to the > > causes of RA. He maintains a strong theory that many RA sufferers > > where victims of molestation. This is true in my case and is deeply > > rooted psychological pain. I question the theory a bit but don't > > dismiss it entirely. Has anyone here dealt with similar issues or been > > asked about it by doctors or psychologists? I'd appreciate hearing > > from you even privately, anything you share with me will be held in > > the strictest of confidence. > > Thank you. > > Suz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 In a message dated 1/27/08 8:22:56 AM, kalfoley@... writes: > t might also be helpful to point out that several studies have found that > people with chronic/terminal disease look for elements that " caused " their > disease. We have a human need to find a " why " and latch on to a reason for > having disease and disability.>>>> > Great point. I think it is frustrating and a waste of energy... stuff happens! Instead, let's try and get better meds, better docs, better attitudes. And, appreciate what mobility we do have..... Pris ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Stress as the trigger? I dunno, you decide. I started experiencing symptoms at age nine. In the 18 months prior: Dad smoked. In the house, in the car, at the dinner table. My third brother was born. Our neighbor across the street robbed a bank. We moved three times times, meaning I went to four different schools in 18 months (never did learn the " new math " ) One brother fell and suffered a skull fracture My parents fought constantly - to the point of violence Dad started a new business. Mother was depressed and always withdrawn. My brothers burned down the barn at the farmhouse my folks were leasing. Mother thought they were still in the barn firefighters had to hold her back they were hiding in the cornfield she lost her mind. I had to witness their " punishment " which involved a belt. We got evicted. We moved again They got caught playing with matches again. Our dog got run over. I had to walk six blocks to and from school twice a day (we walked home for lunch) fall, winter and spring, sun, rain and snow/ice/sleet windchills single digits and below.... in a DRESS (dress code back then) my folks couldn't afford snow suits I cried when recess rolled around) President Kennedy was assassinated. All of this and more, happened in 18 months. Don't know about you, but I'm convinced stress can trigger predisposition to autoimmune diseases. Good Luck, Shauna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 It is's interesting to hear different perceptions on how one aquires RA. I had a great Aunt that I never knew with severe RA. I had regular arthritis onset at age 13. I have always known that I was susceptible to getting/having RA but truly hoped I woulld not. I had a car wreck 3 years ago, if I'd been in a smaller car I would have been killed. But it was after this that I started having a LOT of trouble, starting with severe nose bleeds (connection??). Truthfully, I think the stress of moving 8 times in 4 years, lack of adequate finances, the stress of this accident AND family history was the cause of my RA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 It might also be helpful to point out that several studies have found that people with chronic/terminal disease look for elements that " caused " their disease. We have a human need to find a " why " and latch on to a reason for having disease and disability. There was an interesting study of women with breast cancer who were convinced that an earlier injury to their breast was related to the cancer. It's helpful to introspect about our own past and current stressors and figure out how to manage them effectively so we don't have additional pain because of tension and pumping out stress hormones. However, we must be careful not to make the error of correlation=causation in which we're saying, gee, I know lots of people who had traumatic experiences and they went on to develop autoimmune problems, therefore trauma=autoimmune disease. I also firmly believe that there are probably several rheumatic diseases that get bundled under the RA header. For example all the various lab findings probably suggest that different profiles (antiCCP +, CRP levels, sed rate, RF status etc) are actually different diseases. Remember that AS used to be called RA until it got its own category. Rheumatology is clearly in its infancy and we just don't understand much about the immune system and why it makes errors in which it attacks the body. To stay on my soap box a second longer, I also feel that a lot of this trauma debate is a hold over from the '60s and 70s when physicians talked about the " rheumatoid personality " or gee, what drags these negative nellies with RA could be. Wah wah, always going on about their joint pain. Here's some aspirin, take it 'til your ears ring and maybe when your hands start curling we'll give you some gold injections. RA has been dismissed and minimized until only the recent past. Lots of blame the victim out there. Even my father goes on about what a PITA his mother could be at times. After all, I don't hear MS patients being asked to reflect on how their trauma caused their immune system to attack their CNS. Oh, and keep in mind that physical, sexual, and emotional abuse are shockingly common in American families as are the rates of adult physical assault, robbery, motor vehicle accidents etc, while RA and autoimmune diseases are *relatively rare* across the population. Therefore there are lots of people with trauma histories who do NOT have RA. In fact, I'd guess the majority of trauma survivors do not have RA. Off soapbox now. Kate F ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 , let's be careful about using the term " quack " . We are all on a journey of discovery back to good health and hey if it works for you, do it and God bless you on your way. There are as many roads to healing as there are reasons for why we are victims of an insidious disease. Suz ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 , call it like you want to. After all, we're not politicians. The 'chubby and concentration camp' comments were also right for the postor, IMHO. it's seemingly ridiculous to effectively deny the existance of those poor suffering people that we fought so hard for because it was the right thing to do. I guess the ones to complain are the ones that weren't affected by any of this. Say what you mean and mean what you say!! Dennis in eastexas [ ] Re: Family of Origin > Like the lady who stood by using the descriptive word " crap " , I stand > by my using the word " Quack " . I, too could have been a lot less > diplomatic in my wording. I've had a front seat to RA since the early > 1970's, and have seen a lot of 'theories' on the cause and treatment > of RA. Most of it rubbish. Doctors are not Gods, I've seen too many > of them play to the hope of the sick, to find a cause or a cure. Just > do a internet search for RA " cures. Usually they were lining their > pockets, not curing anyone. It is naive to think all doctors have our > best interests at heart. But to have someone use their 'diploma' and > 'expertise' to tell me that someone did something to me to cause this > is hogwash. I believe in Science, DNA, evolution, and a genetic basis > to RA. I also believe in the sciencific method, and clinic trials, I > would bet the 'doctor' with the molestation theory does not have any > research or trials to back up his statements. > > > > > > > >> >> , let's be careful about using the term " quack " . We are all > on a journey of discovery back to good health and hey if it works for > you, do it and God bless you on your way. There are as many roads to > healing as there are reasons for why we are victims of an insidious > disease. >> Suz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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