Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

[Guest guest]

:

I have decided if he wants the house he will get a loan and pay the price

anyone else would. As for my sister, this has gone on long enough. If she

does not get me the account number or tell me how she wants the money AND it

is convenient for me, then I will not be sending it. I put it in a cd for 5

months cause she gave me the runaround then. Now the CD has matured and

still the runaround. It matures on the 25th and if I don't have an answer

by 5 days after, it is going back into an interest-paying account.

I think she is playing victim since she was not in dad's will (she is not

his biological child but he raised her from the time she was 3 or so). Dad

did tell me to give her some money and I am following his wishes but I do

not see why she is making it hard on me so I am forgetting about it until

she contacts me. I have hounded her enough and I sure could use the money

myself.!

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

I have decided if he wants the house he will get a loan and pay the price

anyone else would. As for my sister, this has gone on long enough. If she

does not get me the account number or tell me how she wants the money AND it

is convenient for me, then I will not be sending it. I put it in a cd for 5

months cause she gave me the runaround then. Now the CD has matured and

still the runaround. It matures on the 25th and if I don't have an answer

by 5 days after, it is going back into an interest-paying account.

I think she is playing victim since she was not in dad's will (she is not

his biological child but he raised her from the time she was 3 or so). Dad

did tell me to give her some money and I am following his wishes but I do

not see why she is making it hard on me so I am forgetting about it until

she contacts me. I have hounded her enough and I sure could use the money

myself.!

-- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

Well, perhaps you've done enough. If she wants the money, she can get

the account number to you.

Friendly reminder...you don't OWE her the money, you're giving it to

her out of the goodness of your heart. Doesn't sound like she even

wants it! I'd be earning some interest on it & not doing a whole lot

more!

As for your brother buying the house...

If you sell it to him & something random goes wrong with the house,

will you be able to live it down with him? Perhaps it might be better

do just get a realtor & deal with the inconvenience of selling it to a

stranger!

Best of luck to you in both of these endeavors, !

Warmly,

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in my

life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy

I do understand what you are saying. Even Mercola believes many

physical problems have an underlying emotional problem and has his

new patients speak to a psychologist. I don't know if I believe that

all diseases are one or separate but I enjoy reading how other

people think as it opens my mind more.

20/20 had a neat clip last night on Worried Sick in America. It was

interesting. They compared the minds of a non risk taker to a risk

taker. Both have fear but the risk taker knows how to control that

fear and channel it into something postivie to achieve their goals.

One thing thing they did that I didn't quite get, was they had a

girl that was worried about everything. They were trying to change

her thought process by telling her to think negatively about what

she was worried about. She was afraid to fly, so he told her to say

something like " the plane is going to crash " over and over. Somehow

this was supposed to de-sensitized the thought. I didn't get it but

apparently it's supposed to work.

I bought the Secret Dvd after Oprah had it on her show the first

time. I had to play it over and over before I really got most of it

but I'm sure it will take a few more tries to believe in all of it.

I did join the yahoo group regarding Laws of Attraction to try and

get started. I told myself, everytime I picked up my keys, I would

stop for 30 seconds and tell myself what I am grateful for. It's

hard to change the thought process.

jingles

> Sorry, I don't mean to come across in any negative way. I just

think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we realize and

that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be considered

separate. Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the

imprints of our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that

the body sends. This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't

stomach that " or " My stomach was all tied up in knots " . These

physical sensations/symptoms are manifestations of how we respond to

something that happens. This is all I'm saying and sorry if I

insulted anyone.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> flies?

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but

I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we

are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy

I do understand what you are saying. Even Mercola believes many

physical problems have an underlying emotional problem and has his

new patients speak to a psychologist. I don't know if I believe that

all diseases are one or separate but I enjoy reading how other

people think as it opens my mind more.

20/20 had a neat clip last night on Worried Sick in America. It was

interesting. They compared the minds of a non risk taker to a risk

taker. Both have fear but the risk taker knows how to control that

fear and channel it into something postivie to achieve their goals.

One thing thing they did that I didn't quite get, was they had a

girl that was worried about everything. They were trying to change

her thought process by telling her to think negatively about what

she was worried about. She was afraid to fly, so he told her to say

something like " the plane is going to crash " over and over. Somehow

this was supposed to de-sensitized the thought. I didn't get it but

apparently it's supposed to work.

I bought the Secret Dvd after Oprah had it on her show the first

time. I had to play it over and over before I really got most of it

but I'm sure it will take a few more tries to believe in all of it.

I did join the yahoo group regarding Laws of Attraction to try and

get started. I told myself, everytime I picked up my keys, I would

stop for 30 seconds and tell myself what I am grateful for. It's

hard to change the thought process.

jingles

> Sorry, I don't mean to come across in any negative way. I just

think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we realize and

that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be considered

separate. Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the

imprints of our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that

the body sends. This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't

stomach that " or " My stomach was all tied up in knots " . These

physical sensations/symptoms are manifestations of how we respond to

something that happens. This is all I'm saying and sorry if I

insulted anyone.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> flies?

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but

I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we

are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy

I do understand what you are saying. Even Mercola believes many

physical problems have an underlying emotional problem and has his

new patients speak to a psychologist. I don't know if I believe that

all diseases are one or separate but I enjoy reading how other

people think as it opens my mind more.

20/20 had a neat clip last night on Worried Sick in America. It was

interesting. They compared the minds of a non risk taker to a risk

taker. Both have fear but the risk taker knows how to control that

fear and channel it into something postivie to achieve their goals.

One thing thing they did that I didn't quite get, was they had a

girl that was worried about everything. They were trying to change

her thought process by telling her to think negatively about what

she was worried about. She was afraid to fly, so he told her to say

something like " the plane is going to crash " over and over. Somehow

this was supposed to de-sensitized the thought. I didn't get it but

apparently it's supposed to work.

I bought the Secret Dvd after Oprah had it on her show the first

time. I had to play it over and over before I really got most of it

but I'm sure it will take a few more tries to believe in all of it.

I did join the yahoo group regarding Laws of Attraction to try and

get started. I told myself, everytime I picked up my keys, I would

stop for 30 seconds and tell myself what I am grateful for. It's

hard to change the thought process.

jingles

> Sorry, I don't mean to come across in any negative way. I just

think illness and dis-ease are much more complex than we realize and

that mind and body are clearly ONE and can never be considered

separate. Our emotions alone and how we respond to things and the

imprints of our experiences definitely contribute to symptoms that

the body sends. This is why we have expressions like " I couldn't

stomach that " or " My stomach was all tied up in knots " . These

physical sensations/symptoms are manifestations of how we respond to

something that happens. This is all I'm saying and sorry if I

insulted anyone.

>

>

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> flies?

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but

I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we

are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> That was NOT was you said in the first place. You said and I

quote "

> I don't believe that we have to get what we are genetically

> predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be sick to begin

> with. "

>

> Genetic illnesses lie with faulty DNA. DNA that we are BORN

with, or

> are you altering science now?

>

> Lynda

Janis: I think what is trying to say (I don't mean to put

words in her mouth) is that we all have a genetic code that is

inalterable, but we all have predispositions. When we get too

stressed, we break at the weakest link. Then the genetic expression

changes, not the actual DNA. I am not a biologist but I know that

genetic weaknesses can be expressed in different ways due to

alterations in our adaptation to the environment.

>

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is

predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and

that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we

do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> That was NOT was you said in the first place. You said and I

quote "

> I don't believe that we have to get what we are genetically

> predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be sick to begin

> with. "

>

> Genetic illnesses lie with faulty DNA. DNA that we are BORN

with, or

> are you altering science now?

>

> Lynda

Janis: I think what is trying to say (I don't mean to put

words in her mouth) is that we all have a genetic code that is

inalterable, but we all have predispositions. When we get too

stressed, we break at the weakest link. Then the genetic expression

changes, not the actual DNA. I am not a biologist but I know that

genetic weaknesses can be expressed in different ways due to

alterations in our adaptation to the environment.

>

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is

predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and

that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we

do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> That was NOT was you said in the first place. You said and I

quote "

> I don't believe that we have to get what we are genetically

> predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be sick to begin

> with. "

>

> Genetic illnesses lie with faulty DNA. DNA that we are BORN

with, or

> are you altering science now?

>

> Lynda

Janis: I think what is trying to say (I don't mean to put

words in her mouth) is that we all have a genetic code that is

inalterable, but we all have predispositions. When we get too

stressed, we break at the weakest link. Then the genetic expression

changes, not the actual DNA. I am not a biologist but I know that

genetic weaknesses can be expressed in different ways due to

alterations in our adaptation to the environment.

>

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> >

> > > Val,

> > >

> > > I hear what you are saying. I would like to share with you my

> > idea

> > > of a genetic illness. To me, genetics is what one is

predisposed

> > to

> > > and where their weaknesses lie if they are to breakdown and

> > become

> > > unbalanced. Thus, I was prone to endocrine problems, and

that's

> > > what I got once stress, and the way I was operating were no

> > longer

> > > working. I don't believe that we have to get what we are

> > > genetically predisposed to if we don't set ourselves up to be

> > sick

> > > to begin with. I also believe that our bodies can heal if we

do

> > the

> > > necessary work on ourselves and our lives.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

m what planet are you from? On my planet " the spirit is willing but the

flesh is weak, " as Christ put it. You say on your planet I could " avoid things

I am genetically predisposed to by not setting myself up for them? " Oh, you mean

I can set myself up to change my hair color, my eye color, and the size of my

nose? I can make myself taller or shorter? I can make my adrenal glands bigger

or smaller? I can choose not to be nearsighted, and can tell my immune system

to quit attacking my thyroid gland? Gee, I wish I was from your planet!

Unfortunately a lot of us are stuck on Earth.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>>If we don't change the way WE are operating and make the other necessary

changes, we won't heal. If we sit back and expect everyone and everything else

to change for us, then we will stay sick.<<

Sorry I find this offensive. WE have changed, had to. And I don;t think

anyone expects the world to change just for our illnesses. If we were not trying

to deal with it and get well we wouldn't be HERE. BTW I and many here, have

Hash's.. a GENETIC condition that we had NO control over happening to us. No

amount of changing is going to take it away.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

m what planet are you from? On my planet " the spirit is willing but the

flesh is weak, " as Christ put it. You say on your planet I could " avoid things

I am genetically predisposed to by not setting myself up for them? " Oh, you mean

I can set myself up to change my hair color, my eye color, and the size of my

nose? I can make myself taller or shorter? I can make my adrenal glands bigger

or smaller? I can choose not to be nearsighted, and can tell my immune system

to quit attacking my thyroid gland? Gee, I wish I was from your planet!

Unfortunately a lot of us are stuck on Earth.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>>If we don't change the way WE are operating and make the other necessary

changes, we won't heal. If we sit back and expect everyone and everything else

to change for us, then we will stay sick.<<

Sorry I find this offensive. WE have changed, had to. And I don;t think

anyone expects the world to change just for our illnesses. If we were not trying

to deal with it and get well we wouldn't be HERE. BTW I and many here, have

Hash's.. a GENETIC condition that we had NO control over happening to us. No

amount of changing is going to take it away.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

m what planet are you from? On my planet " the spirit is willing but the

flesh is weak, " as Christ put it. You say on your planet I could " avoid things

I am genetically predisposed to by not setting myself up for them? " Oh, you mean

I can set myself up to change my hair color, my eye color, and the size of my

nose? I can make myself taller or shorter? I can make my adrenal glands bigger

or smaller? I can choose not to be nearsighted, and can tell my immune system

to quit attacking my thyroid gland? Gee, I wish I was from your planet!

Unfortunately a lot of us are stuck on Earth.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

>>If we don't change the way WE are operating and make the other necessary

changes, we won't heal. If we sit back and expect everyone and everything else

to change for us, then we will stay sick.<<

Sorry I find this offensive. WE have changed, had to. And I don;t think

anyone expects the world to change just for our illnesses. If we were not trying

to deal with it and get well we wouldn't be HERE. BTW I and many here, have

Hash's.. a GENETIC condition that we had NO control over happening to us. No

amount of changing is going to take it away.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> and I quote your original words back to you " if we don't set

ourselves

> up to be sick to begin with. "

>

> Now you may say " if I had not set myself up to begin with " Just

> don't say WE - you are being judgemental and patronizing.

>

> Lynda

Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

instances; not all. >

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

>

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> and I quote your original words back to you " if we don't set

ourselves

> up to be sick to begin with. "

>

> Now you may say " if I had not set myself up to begin with " Just

> don't say WE - you are being judgemental and patronizing.

>

> Lynda

Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

instances; not all. >

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

>

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> and I quote your original words back to you " if we don't set

ourselves

> up to be sick to begin with. "

>

> Now you may say " if I had not set myself up to begin with " Just

> don't say WE - you are being judgemental and patronizing.

>

> Lynda

Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

instances; not all. >

> Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like

> flies?

>

>

> > Lynda,

> >

> > I'm not saying we can change out " genetic predisposition " , but I

> > believe that when we have a breakdown or imbalance of mental,

> > spiritual, physical, that we are more likely to get what we are

> > genetically predisposed to.

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > That is wonderful that you were able to accomplish this. But

please

> > do not

> > > guilt us into believing that we can defy death and disease by

our

> > thinking.

> > > I worked in a hospital for 13 years and watched people die,

> > including two of

> > > my family members. I do not believe my sister or father could

have

> > stopped

> > > their cancer with their thoughts.

> > >

> > > I am happy you believe in this and it has worked for you but we

> are all

> > > different and thoughts can never defy the laws of nature which

include

> > > disease and death. I have not given up on my condition but I do

> > accept that

> > > it exists and that there are not cures for everything. That is

a fact,

> > > there are not cures for everything out there. I believe there

are more

> > > cures than we know of a the moment, but not everything is

curable just

> > > because you were healed. A baby born prematurely or with brain

> > damage etc,

> > > cannot use its thoughts to change its condition. There are

things

> > that can

> > > be accomplished with positive thinking but not everything.

> > >

> > > -- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> > >

> > > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how

much. It's

> > > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the

post so

> > > I will just say this:

> > >

> > > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative

angry

> > > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I

learned

> > > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good

enough.

> > > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had

been

> > > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major

impact

> > > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many

years.

> > >

> > > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in,

creates

> > > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we

are

> > > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and

health

> > > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us.

Yes,

> > > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that

big

> > > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > > brainwashed into believing them.

> > >

> > > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of

the Y2K

> > > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing

completely

> > > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I

did

> > > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really

wrong with

> > > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3

areas:

> > > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first

because I

> > > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly

before

> > > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of

focusing on

> > > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition

and

> > > Wellness Consultant.

> > >

> > > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house

yelling

> > > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and

I asked

> > > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at

the

> > > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks,

the

> > > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from

every

> > > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to

the

> > > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> > >

> > > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the

equation.

> > > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed

for the

> > > better.

> > >

> > > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved

into the

> > > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp

this

> > > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good

ones

> > > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > >

> > > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned

the

> > > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in

popularity

> > > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have

been

> > > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a

week

> > > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and

used

> > > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a

secret! The

> > > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo

stuff.

> > > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists

are also

> > > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> > >

> > > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a

pivotal role

> > > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie

you

> > > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and

recovered by

> > > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to

think

> > > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret

movie.

> > >

> > > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to

offend, but

> > > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and

that's

> > > a good thing.

> > >

> > > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I

am not

> > > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a

month. It

> > > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my

future. You

> > > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get

that to

> > work.

> > >

> > > Ginger

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > That is wonderful that you were able to accomplish this. But

please

> > do not

> > > guilt us into believing that we can defy death and disease by

our

> > thinking.

> > > I worked in a hospital for 13 years and watched people die,

> > including two of

> > > my family members. I do not believe my sister or father could

have

> > stopped

> > > their cancer with their thoughts.

> > >

> > > I am happy you believe in this and it has worked for you but we

> are all

> > > different and thoughts can never defy the laws of nature which

include

> > > disease and death. I have not given up on my condition but I do

> > accept that

> > > it exists and that there are not cures for everything. That is

a fact,

> > > there are not cures for everything out there. I believe there

are more

> > > cures than we know of a the moment, but not everything is

curable just

> > > because you were healed. A baby born prematurely or with brain

> > damage etc,

> > > cannot use its thoughts to change its condition. There are

things

> > that can

> > > be accomplished with positive thinking but not everything.

> > >

> > > -- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> > >

> > > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how

much. It's

> > > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the

post so

> > > I will just say this:

> > >

> > > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative

angry

> > > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I

learned

> > > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good

enough.

> > > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had

been

> > > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major

impact

> > > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many

years.

> > >

> > > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in,

creates

> > > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we

are

> > > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and

health

> > > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us.

Yes,

> > > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that

big

> > > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > > brainwashed into believing them.

> > >

> > > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of

the Y2K

> > > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing

completely

> > > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I

did

> > > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really

wrong with

> > > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3

areas:

> > > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first

because I

> > > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly

before

> > > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of

focusing on

> > > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition

and

> > > Wellness Consultant.

> > >

> > > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house

yelling

> > > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and

I asked

> > > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at

the

> > > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks,

the

> > > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from

every

> > > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to

the

> > > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> > >

> > > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the

equation.

> > > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed

for the

> > > better.

> > >

> > > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved

into the

> > > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp

this

> > > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good

ones

> > > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > >

> > > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned

the

> > > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in

popularity

> > > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have

been

> > > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a

week

> > > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and

used

> > > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a

secret! The

> > > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo

stuff.

> > > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists

are also

> > > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> > >

> > > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a

pivotal role

> > > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie

you

> > > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and

recovered by

> > > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to

think

> > > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret

movie.

> > >

> > > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to

offend, but

> > > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and

that's

> > > a good thing.

> > >

> > > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I

am not

> > > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a

month. It

> > > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my

future. You

> > > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get

that to

> > work.

> > >

> > > Ginger

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > That is wonderful that you were able to accomplish this. But

please

> > do not

> > > guilt us into believing that we can defy death and disease by

our

> > thinking.

> > > I worked in a hospital for 13 years and watched people die,

> > including two of

> > > my family members. I do not believe my sister or father could

have

> > stopped

> > > their cancer with their thoughts.

> > >

> > > I am happy you believe in this and it has worked for you but we

> are all

> > > different and thoughts can never defy the laws of nature which

include

> > > disease and death. I have not given up on my condition but I do

> > accept that

> > > it exists and that there are not cures for everything. That is

a fact,

> > > there are not cures for everything out there. I believe there

are more

> > > cures than we know of a the moment, but not everything is

curable just

> > > because you were healed. A baby born prematurely or with brain

> > damage etc,

> > > cannot use its thoughts to change its condition. There are

things

> > that can

> > > be accomplished with positive thinking but not everything.

> > >

> > > -- Re: Personal issue - friends dropping

like

> > flies?

> > >

> > > I knew that post would get feedback but I had no idea how

much. It's

> > > impossible for me to respond to everyone that responded to the

post so

> > > I will just say this:

> > >

> > > First of all, as background, I was raised in an argumentative

angry

> > > environment and had very negative thinking most of my life. I

learned

> > > to be very judgmental toward others and that I was never good

enough.

> > > I blamed the rest of the world on my poor lot in life as I had

been

> > > taught to do by my father. I do believe this has had a major

impact

> > > on the fact that my body has been out of balance for many

years.

> > >

> > > I know now that beliefs are everything. What we believe in,

creates

> > > our reality. If we believe we cannot and will not get well, we

are

> > > right. I also know now, from my intense study of nutrition and

health

> > > that there is a cure for just about everything that ails us.

Yes,

> > > even things you may think there is no cure for. It's just that

big

> > > pharma and western medicine don't recognize it and we have been

> > > brainwashed into believing them.

> > >

> > > I started studying alternative health in 1999 as a result of

the Y2K

> > > scare. And after I became ill in 2003, I started focusing

completely

> > > on how to become healthy rather than dwelling on my illness. I

did

> > > this primarily because no one could tell me what was really

wrong with

> > > me. Along the way, I became aware that health encompasses 3

areas:

> > > body, mind and spirit. I focused primarily on body first

because I

> > > couldn't think straight and needed to be able to think clearly

before

> > > I could focus on the other two. After about 18 months of

focusing on

> > > nutrition I had gotten to a point where I could finally work

> > > part-time. At that time, I also became a Certified Nutrition

and

> > > Wellness Consultant.

> > >

> > > In December of 2005, I became angry and paced through my house

yelling

> > > at " God " that I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and

I asked

> > > him to please send me the answer. I didn't understand this at

the

> > > time, but when we are passionate about something (and anger is

> > > passion) it manifests very quickly. Over the next few weeks,

the

> > > teachings of the Law of Attraction began coming to me from

every

> > > direction. It was so blatant in fact that I finally looked to

the

> > > heavens and said: OK, I get it!

> > >

> > > So started my journey into the mind and spirit part of the

equation.

> > > Since then I have learned a great deal and my life has changed

for the

> > > better.

> > >

> > > As you can see, there are people here who haven't yet delved

into the

> > > mind/spirit part of the equation. It's sometimes hard to grasp

this

> > > when you are ill but if you read books about health, the good

ones

> > > will always mention the mind and spirit part of the equation.

> > >

> > > For those of you who would like to learn more, Inga mentioned

the

> > > movie The Secret. This is the single most important documentary

> > > that's been done on the subject and it has skyrocketed in

popularity

> > > over the last year. In fact, the teachers on The Secret have

been

> > > profiled on Larry King Live and were on the Oprah show about a

week

> > > ago. And, Oprah said she has always known this information and

used

> > > it to create her life but she just didn't know it was a

secret! The

> > > things on this documentary are not just some kind of woo woo

stuff.

> > > This is all backed up by science and some of the scientists

are also

> > > in the movie to speak about this as well.

> > >

> > > Yes, there is now scientific proof that the mind plays a

pivotal role

> > > in our health and our lives as a whole. If you watch the movie

you

> > > will see people who suffered terrible health issues and

recovered by

> > > using their minds. It will give you hope as well as a lot to

think

> > > about. Maybe we can have a great discussion about The Secret

movie.

> > >

> > > If you took offense at my post, well, it was not meant to

offend, but

> > > instead, to help. It has obviously made many of you think and

that's

> > > a good thing.

> > >

> > > You can purchase The Secret at http://www.thesecret.tv and I

am not

> > > affiliated in any way. I watch this movie at least once a

month. It

> > > helps me to stay focused and gives me great hope for my

future. You

> > > can also view it online one time but I was never able to get

that to

> > work.

> > >

> > > Ginger

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

> emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

> If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

> bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

> This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

> set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

> choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

> can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

> connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

> is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

> instances; not all. >

>

Janis, here's what we have no way of knowing...if you HADN'T stayed in

the marriage, etc., isn't it possible that you STILL may have traveled

down this path? I don't think that there's any way to rule it out.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

> emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

> If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

> bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

> This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

> set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

> choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

> can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

> connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

> is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

> instances; not all. >

>

Janis, here's what we have no way of knowing...if you HADN'T stayed in

the marriage, etc., isn't it possible that you STILL may have traveled

down this path? I don't think that there's any way to rule it out.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Janis: My guess is that if our endocrine problems relate to our

> emotions, then we are unknowingly setting ourselves up for illness.

> If I had only known that by holding my emotions in and staying in a

> bad marriage that I would be so ill, I never would have stayed.

> This takes the sting out of it somewhat because I didn't purposely

> set myself up for this sickness; it just happened due to bad

> choices. I am paying the price now, but I am trying to learn all I

> can so that I can heal. I realize that there is a huge mind/body

> connection at least in my case. I think this illness in particular

> is a wake up call because it seems to be stress related in most

> instances; not all. >

>

Janis, here's what we have no way of knowing...if you HADN'T stayed in

the marriage, etc., isn't it possible that you STILL may have traveled

down this path? I don't think that there's any way to rule it out.

[Guest guest]

I know when my Hashi hit, I was a healthy active HAPPY 19 year old. Well

it was when my thyroid died and demanded attention anyway, I had had

painful periods for years before this and constipation as a child so

anyone's guess if the thyroid was pooping out then, but anyway at 19 I

weighed 98 pounds, was a dancer, in acrobatics, and a literal genius in

school. I took college entrance exams at Cal Poly in California and got

the highest scored they had seen in 6 years..on a tenth grade education.

I was a track star in high school, setting a new 100yard dash record,

and life was good. NOTHING in my life prepared me or caused me to

suddenly gain to 160 pounds and start falling asleep standing up. There

was no drastic changes in my life at that time.Just my health. This is

called a genetic trigger. By coincidence, my natural mother had me at 18

years old then suddenly at 19 gained horrible weigh tshe was never able

to lose. now i I did not have my own experience to go on I would say the

birth triggered hers, but the timing was EXACTLY the same age for me and

I have never been PG in my life. Another trigger for autoimmune diseases

is vaccinations. My dog is a perfect example of this, as is my cat. both

are quite hypo. and both this started right after vaccinations. I was

reading somewhere a couple days ago that autoimmune adrenal disease is

on the rise, though it used to be considered very rare. Wher ehave I

heard this before?

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I know when my Hashi hit, I was a healthy active HAPPY 19 year old. Well

it was when my thyroid died and demanded attention anyway, I had had

painful periods for years before this and constipation as a child so

anyone's guess if the thyroid was pooping out then, but anyway at 19 I

weighed 98 pounds, was a dancer, in acrobatics, and a literal genius in

school. I took college entrance exams at Cal Poly in California and got

the highest scored they had seen in 6 years..on a tenth grade education.

I was a track star in high school, setting a new 100yard dash record,

and life was good. NOTHING in my life prepared me or caused me to

suddenly gain to 160 pounds and start falling asleep standing up. There

was no drastic changes in my life at that time.Just my health. This is

called a genetic trigger. By coincidence, my natural mother had me at 18

years old then suddenly at 19 gained horrible weigh tshe was never able

to lose. now i I did not have my own experience to go on I would say the

birth triggered hers, but the timing was EXACTLY the same age for me and

I have never been PG in my life. Another trigger for autoimmune diseases

is vaccinations. My dog is a perfect example of this, as is my cat. both

are quite hypo. and both this started right after vaccinations. I was

reading somewhere a couple days ago that autoimmune adrenal disease is

on the rise, though it used to be considered very rare. Wher ehave I

heard this before?

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that

nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to

start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along

with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for

them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I

became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in

my life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that

nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to

start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along

with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for

them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I

became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in

my life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I don't think that people turn their backs cause they don't

> understand. I

> > realized that my nurturing attracted people who wanted that

nurturing

> > without having to return it. When we became ill, they had to

start

> > returning the nurturing and they did not want to.

> >

>

> Exactly! And it's a startling discovery when you're going along

with

> your life all normal-like & suddenly become deathly ill, only to

> realize that those whom you thought were there for you are too much

> into their own whatever to care for you the way you've cared for

them.

>

> ly, I think that I'm doing pretty well, considering that I

became

> ill & discovered this in October & it's now February - a mere four

> months later! - and I'm already working to put it in its place in

my life!

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>