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The doctor closest to you experienced in this therapy is Eleazer Kadile,

M.D., 1538 Bellevue St., Green Bay WI 54311 - phone 920-468-9442

tracyanddan@... wrote:

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> From: tracyanddan@...

>

> My daughter has recently been diagnosed with JRA. I'm interested in

anti-biotic therapy. Can anyone put me in touch with a Dr. willing to treat

this with this therapy? I live in Superior, WI.

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Yes, there are children with JRA who have benefitted from the AP

(antibiotic protocol) and we have had parents of JRA patients on this

list. If any of them are still lurking out there, perhaps they would be

best to relay their experiences for you. In the interim, I'd recommend

you read the book The New Arthritis Breakthrough, which explains in

plain language the theory behind this treatment, as well as providing a

number of case histories of patients who recovered using the AP. If I'm

not mistaken, I believe at least one case history in the book was that

of a JRA patient. You should also check out the website at

www.rheumatic.org, which contains a great deal of info on this

treatment, including an FAQ section as well as the doctor's protocol for

prescribing the treatment. You should be aware that many rheums are

reluctant to try this treatment and most of us have had to fight our

doctors for the right to try it so having a doctor initially opposed to

the idea is not unusual. Do the reading, get informed then you will be

better prepared to fight for the treatment you want for your child.

This group also has a list of doctors willing to prescribe the treatment

so if you choose to pursue it and still face opposition from your

doctor, you can most likely find a new doctor here. Good luck and feel

free to send any questions you have to the group, they are a wealth of

information.

a Peden

Hescock@... wrote:

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> From: Hescock@...

>

> My 8 year old has been diagnosed with Systemic Onset JRA. Her Dr. says that

> the antibiotic therapy is " inappropriate " and would not work anyway since

> there is not " infectious agent " at work. Has anyone heard of using the

> antibiotic therapy, or a modified version, for children?

>

> Hescock@...

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Oops, you're right, I forgot about that (damn brain fog). I believe the

antibiotic that's used in children is erythromycin (sp?) instead of

minocycline. Thanks for pointing that out.

a Peden

Probert wrote:

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> From: " Probert " <jpro@...>

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> I would second a's advice to get the book. I know tetracyclines are not

> recommended for use in children under 8 because of the potential of tooth

> staining. Maybe that is what the doctor meant by " inappropriate. " In " The

> New Arthritis Breakthrough " Dr. Brown mentions the specific antibiotic he

> used in children. Henry Scammell will be listed as the author and it is

> readily available at libraries and bookstores.

>

> Hope some of the parents of kids with JRA will chime in, but for now, maybe

> this will help. From what I remember in the book, children are often

> especially responsive to this treatment.

>

> Jean

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Oops, you're right, I forgot about that (damn brain fog). I believe the

antibiotic that's used in children is erythromycin (sp?) instead of

minocycline. Thanks for pointing that out.

a Peden

Probert wrote:

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> From: " Probert " <jpro@...>

>

> I would second a's advice to get the book. I know tetracyclines are not

> recommended for use in children under 8 because of the potential of tooth

> staining. Maybe that is what the doctor meant by " inappropriate. " In " The

> New Arthritis Breakthrough " Dr. Brown mentions the specific antibiotic he

> used in children. Henry Scammell will be listed as the author and it is

> readily available at libraries and bookstores.

>

> Hope some of the parents of kids with JRA will chime in, but for now, maybe

> this will help. From what I remember in the book, children are often

> especially responsive to this treatment.

>

> Jean

>

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I would second a's advice to get the book. I know tetracyclines are not

recommended for use in children under 8 because of the potential of tooth

staining. Maybe that is what the doctor meant by " inappropriate. " In " The

New Arthritis Breakthrough " Dr. Brown mentions the specific antibiotic he

used in children. Henry Scammell will be listed as the author and it is

readily available at libraries and bookstores.

Hope some of the parents of kids with JRA will chime in, but for now, maybe

this will help. From what I remember in the book, children are often

especially responsive to this treatment.

Jean

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>From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>Hescock@..., Arthritis Support <rheumaticonelist>

>Subject: Re: rheumatic JRA

>Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 4:31 PM

>

> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

> Yes, there are children with JRA who have benefitted from the AP

> (antibiotic protocol) and we have had parents of JRA patients on this

> list. If any of them are still lurking out there, perhaps they would be

> best to relay their experiences for you. In the interim, I'd recommend

> you read the book The New Arthritis Breakthrough, which explains in

> plain language the theory behind this treatment, as well as providing a

> number of case histories of patients who recovered using the AP. If I'm

> not mistaken, I believe at least one case history in the book was that

> of a JRA patient. You should also check out the website at

> www.rheumatic.org, which contains a great deal of info on this

> treatment, including an FAQ section as well as the doctor's protocol for

> prescribing the treatment. You should be aware that many rheums are

> reluctant to try this treatment and most of us have had to fight our

> doctors for the right to try it so having a doctor initially opposed to

> the idea is not unusual. Do the reading, get informed then you will be

> better prepared to fight for the treatment you want for your child.

> This group also has a list of doctors willing to prescribe the treatment

> so if you choose to pursue it and still face opposition from your

> doctor, you can most likely find a new doctor here. Good luck and feel

> free to send any questions you have to the group, they are a wealth of

> information.

> a Peden

>

> Hescock@... wrote:

>>

>> From: Hescock@...

>>

>> My 8 year old has been diagnosed with Systemic Onset JRA. Her Dr. says that

>> the antibiotic therapy is " inappropriate " and would not work anyway since

>> there is not " infectious agent " at work. Has anyone heard of using the

>> antibiotic therapy, or a modified version, for children?

>>

>> Hescock@...

>>

>

> >

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I would like to add to all the rest that the antibiotic used for

children is Erythramycin which cannot be used for a few of the

mycoplasmas. It would be a good idea to send your childs blood sample

for a PCR test which would tell what type of mycoplasma they have. It is

really important to send it to the right lab, not all do this correctly.

Best of luck

cooky

Probert wrote:

>

> From: " Probert " <jpro@...>

>

> I would second a's advice to get the book. I know tetracyclines are not

> recommended for use in children under 8 because of the potential of tooth

> staining. Maybe that is what the doctor meant by " inappropriate. " In " The

> New Arthritis Breakthrough " Dr. Brown mentions the specific antibiotic he

> used in children. Henry Scammell will be listed as the author and it is

> readily available at libraries and bookstores.

>

> Hope some of the parents of kids with JRA will chime in, but for now, maybe

> this will help. From what I remember in the book, children are often

> especially responsive to this treatment.

>

> Jean

>

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We have heard from many people whose children have recovered from JRA on

antibiotics. Erythromycin is usually used for children. The dose for an 8 year

old is around 400mg of Eryped (liquid erythromycin).

A nine year old boy here had JRA so severely he couldn't feed himself or go to

the toilet by himself. His mother is a nurse and we got her information from Dr.

Franco, a rheumatologist in Riverside, California, who advised he should

start erythromycin. In four months, Simeon was fully recovered and is now on a

maintenance dose of erythromycin.

I believe that Dr. Franco has treated 13 or more children for JRA with

erythromycin. You might like to call him on 909-788-0850. We maintain a list of

doctors and might be able to help with one in your area. Your doctor is adhering

to the auto-immune theory of JRA. Our doctors believe that the disease is

triggered by infection, hence the low-dose antibiotic approach. the fact that

the children treated with antibiotics are recovering says that they are right.

Let us know what information you need and hope to hear back from you soon,

Chris.

My 8 year old has been diagnosed with Systemic Onset JRA. Her Dr. says that

the antibiotic therapy is " inappropriate " and would not work anyway since

there is not " infectious agent " at work. Has anyone heard of using the

antibiotic therapy, or a modified version, for children?

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Hi Jan, My 16 year old daughter came down with

systemic JRA about 1 year ago. It was terrible--she

went from a competitive figure skater to barely being

able to walk across the hall. She was in extreme pain

and placed on 60 mg. of Prednisone. I, at that time,

was totally overwelmed and knew nothing about the

dangers of prednisone. However, I researched day and

night about what was out there for Jra, and among

other things, read the book, " New Athritis Breakthrough

and The Road Back. " God was with me because somehow I

connected online with who also began to tell me

about the antiobiotic therapy for this. I was quite

nervous about putting my daughter on them, but made up

my mind it was worth trying, and took the chance. Try

to find Dr.s who do this--and I was almost persecuted

by her current Dr.s who told me I was doing the wrong

thing. I also placed her on numerous vitamins and

herbal anti-inflammatories. In Jan. she began Minocin

orally. In March she started Clinocin IV's along with

the oral Minocin. Together with the vitamins and

herbals, she slowly began to improve. It was slow and

subtle at first, but now we are seeing tremendous

progress. She is almost pain-free and down to 20mg of

Prednisone and still reducing slowly. It has been

less than 5 months on antibiotics and she is getting

her life back. Of course, so very many people are

praying for her, that I feel sure that is part of her

recovery as well. But slowly but surely, my lovely

child is getting well. And the Rheumatologist that

placed her on prednisone told us it could never

happen...I say, never say never, for Miracles still do

happen.

I hope this will encourage you about AP for JRA.

Please feel free to e-mail me directly, if you wish.

Best regards to you, Deborah

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--- pjgunter@... wrote:

> I accidentally sent that last message without

> completing it.

> I'm interested in hearing from anyone about the

> success of this

> treatment with systemic JRA. Is there anyone out

> there using it for

> this disease? The rheumatologist said there was good

> research on

> rheumatoid arthritis, but none on JRA. I'd love to

> hear from you.

> Jan

>

>

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Hi Tina,

After talking to a longtime family friend we found out that her niece who is

14 has JRA and is being treated very successfully with antibiotics. They go

to a doctor in the Boston area who is experienced with this treatment. Hope

this helps.

Dee

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Thank You Dee and all that wrote,

We are here on a hinge of hope that the Shriners

Children's hospital can shed more light on this.

Her GP is all for going there, there is so much to

know and learn and we may even be the teachers to

them...

We have nothing to lose going there,and perhaps more

ot gain as maybe a mis diagnosis.But there is

something derfinatly wrong for her.

This will be the second opinion and since it was a

Allergist giving the first diagnosis seeing a JRA

specialist in Philadelphia will certainly be a

privilege as they have more experience than any

doctors here in this area.

we live in a very limited area and no cities for 60

miles in any direction,alot of older people here and I

am sure they treat RA adults but for children it is

very hard to get any experienced with this.

We are lucky that JRA is one of the conditons that

Shriners sees children for so we are positive we will

come away with some more answers on what can be done.

I tried to connect with a JRA group but only one to be

found has not had messages posted since last Summer ,

so here I am with you all.And learning more about this

disease, and also what you as adults are going thru!

My heart goes out to you all.

I wish it was me in some sense than a child.

Thank you for welcoming me to the group and I will be

in touch more when we make our visit on t he 21st,

just next week!

Tina

--- LJDSLL@... wrote:

> Hi Tina,

>

> After talking to a longtime family friend we found

> out that her niece who is

> 14 has JRA and is being treated very successfully

> with antibiotics. They go

> to a doctor in the Boston area who is experienced

> with this treatment. Hope

> this helps.

> Dee

>

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Hi Welcome!

I find screaming helps!! LOL I use this group and it helps so so much. Great

place to vent!

Marsha

[ ] JRA

Hi, I am new ( ). I am 57 years old. I was diagnoised with JRA

at 9 months old. It has been a long dark ride. My bigest question is

how to handle the frustration, and fatigue of RA.

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i have a great-nephew who has had since he was 5 he has never not knoe pain. he

is great he plya bb bb track and field tennis golf he lets nothing stop him and

all he will take is ibpuroin i dont know how he does it. i feel ashamed when i

complain in front of him but he said he understands i guess he has more faith

than i do brenda

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