Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? Will that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st graders will have to read it? I don't like the idea. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed an infant.] > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed an > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > illustrate > where the nipple is < and where > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too young > to learn, according to the company press release. > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic of > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection in > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > Gloton<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_be\ be_gloton_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html>, > has been available since 2009. > > Read more: > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > -- > Ortiz, MS, RD > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: (online > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and Special > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > student < > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > * > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > * > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 but,my daughter is breastfeeding and her 2 yr old son sits with her and 'breast feeds " his teddy bear ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 8:30:16 PM Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? Will that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st graders will have to read it? I don't like the idea. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to >breastfeed > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed an infant.] > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed an > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > illustrate > where the nipple is < and where > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too young > to learn, according to the company press release. > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic of > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection in > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe >Gloton<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_b\ ebe_gloton_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html>, >, > has been available since 2009. > > Read more: >http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_dol\ l_teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI >I > > > > -- > Ortiz, MS, RD > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: (online > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and Special > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > student < > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > * > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > * > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed her younger brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to " nurse " her doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A child may be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what this doll seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are options to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I was a child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my children. Just my opinion. Have a good weekend. RD, LD ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? Will that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st graders will have to read it? I don't like the idea. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to >breastfeed > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed an infant.] > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed an > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > illustrate > where the nipple is < and where > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too young > to learn, according to the company press release. > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic of > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection in > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe >Gloton<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_b\ ebe_gloton_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html>, >, > has been available since 2009. > > Read more: >http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_dol\ l_teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI >I > > > > -- > Ortiz, MS, RD > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: (online > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and Special > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > student < > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > * > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > * > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that is twisting natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a start is a start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a life-like baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on cloth diapers to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 1/2 y/o self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play with the doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing hold. she continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed her younger brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to " nurse " her doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A child may be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what this doll seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are options to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I was a child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my children. Just my opinion. Have a good weekend. RD, LD ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? Will that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st graders will have to read it? I don't like the idea. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to >breastfeed > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed an infant.] > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed an > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > illustrate > where the nipple is < and where > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too young > to learn, according to the company press release. > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic of > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection in > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe >Gloton<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_b\ ebe_gloton_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html>, > >, > has been available since 2009. > > Read more: >http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_dol\ l_teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > >I > > > > -- > Ortiz, MS, RD > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: (online > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and Special > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > student < > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > * > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > * > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda wrote: > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that is > twisting > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a start is > a > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > life-like > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on cloth > diapers > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 1/2 > y/o > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play with > the > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing hold. she > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > Vajda, R.D. > www.GingerJens.com > > ________________________________ > > > To: rd-usa > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > breastfeed > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed her > younger > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to " nurse " > her > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A child > may > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what this > doll > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > options > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I was a > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my children. > Just > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > RD, LD > > ________________________________ > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > breastfeed > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? > Will > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st > graders will have to read it? > > I don't like the idea. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > A dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > (Revolutionary > > Road) > > > To: rd-usa > > From: nrord1@... > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > >breastfeed > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how > to > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed > an > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > > illustrate > > where the nipple is < and > where > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too > young > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic > of > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection > in > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > >Gloton< > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > >, > > > >, > > has been available since 2009. > > > > Read more: > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > >I > > > > > > > > -- > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > (online > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > Special > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > > student < > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > * > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > * > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are jumping into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real taboo, dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or shell we have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the pushing for breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own stage. the girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the doll. WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in this country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. (and yes, I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). Women develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, and that transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women right to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who should say what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt drive. Just because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. Sex (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also natural, our naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked if the kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " bc it is creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a doll as if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is common, was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such dolls, she got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! I didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for it later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad mother when she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for her (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them to " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only girls? if it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not for all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and this doll took it too far too soon. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda wrote: > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that is > > twisting > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a start is > > a > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > > life-like > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on cloth > > diapers > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 1/2 > > y/o > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play with > > the > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing hold. she > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > www.GingerJens.com > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > breastfeed > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed her > > younger > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to " nurse " > > her > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A child > > may > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what this > > doll > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > > options > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I was a > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my children. > > Just > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > RD, LD > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > breastfeed > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? > > Will > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st > > graders will have to read it? > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > (Revolutionary > > > > Road) > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > >breastfeed > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how > > to > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed > > an > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > > > illustrate > > > where the nipple is < and > > where > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too > > young > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic > > of > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection > > in > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > >Gloton< > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > >, > > > > > >, > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > (online > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > Special > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > > > student < > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > * > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > * > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I see nothing wrong with it. What could be more natural? I grew up in a country where women breast fed (until American puritan morals were imposed and became popular) and then it became offensive to be sitting in the plaza, or the bus stop, or street corner, or church, and feed a hungry child from your breasts. Now, THAT’s what I call offensive. Mammals eat from the breast or teat, and we’re mammals. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Madalyn Friedberg Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:54 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed but,my daughter is breastfeeding and her 2 yr old son sits with her and 'breast feeds " his teddy bear ________________________________ From: Merav Levi <meravls@... <mailto:meravls%40msn.com> > To: rd-usa <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 8:30:16 PM Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? Will that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st graders will have to read it? I don't like the idea. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN A dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > From: nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to >breastfeed > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed an infant.] > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed an > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > illustrate > where the nipple is < and where > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too young > to learn, according to the company press release. > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic of > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection in > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe >Gloton<http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_b\ ebe_gloton_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html>, >, > has been available since 2009. > > Read more: >http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_dol\ l_teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI >I > > > > -- > Ortiz, MS, RD > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: (online > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and Special > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > student < > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > * > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > * > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Back in the day before formula, there was only breastfeeding. When did it become so " disgusting " to people. I was unable to breastfeed my 7 month old. It devastated me. I looked at the ingredients on the can of formula and wanted to vomit. The first thing is corn syrup solids. If girls grow up with breasfeeding dolls, then it's not going to seem so out of place or uncomfortable for people because after all, that is what breasts are for. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... > wrote: > > > I see nothing wrong with it. What could be more natural? I grew up in a > country where women breast fed (until American puritan morals were imposed > and became popular) and then it became offensive to be sitting in the plaza, > or the bus stop, or street corner, or church, and feed a hungry child from > your breasts. Now, THAT’s what I call offensive. Mammals eat from the breast > or teat, and we’re mammals. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Madalyn Friedberg > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:54 AM > > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > breastfeed > > but,my daughter is breastfeeding and her 2 yr old son sits with her and > 'breast > feeds " his teddy bear > > ________________________________ > From: Merav Levi <meravls@... <mailto:meravls%40msn.com> > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 8:30:16 PM > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > breastfeed > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? > Will > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st > graders will have to read it? > > I don't like the idea. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > A dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > (Revolutionary > Road) > > > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > > From: nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > >breastfeed > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how > to > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed > an > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > > illustrate > > where the nipple is < and > where > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too > young > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic > of > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection > in > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > >Gloton< > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > >, > >, > > has been available since 2009. > > > > Read more: > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > >I > > > > > > > > -- > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > (online > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > Special > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > > student < > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > * > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > * > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a baby was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. He knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I went to the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough that would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are jumping > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real taboo, > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or shell we > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the pushing for > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own stage. the > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the doll. > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in this > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. (and yes, > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). Women > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, and that > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women right > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who should say > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt drive. Just > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. Sex > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also natural, our > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked if the > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " bc it is > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a doll as > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is common, > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such dolls, she > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! I > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for it > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad mother when > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for her > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them to > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only girls? if > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not for > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and this doll > took it too far too soon. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: nrord1@... > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to breastfeed > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that is > > > twisting > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a start > is > > > a > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > > > life-like > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on > cloth > > > diapers > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 > 1/2 > > > y/o > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play > with > > > the > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing hold. > she > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to > > > breastfeed > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed her > > > younger > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > " nurse " > > > her > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A > child > > > may > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what this > > > doll > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > > > options > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I was > a > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > children. > > > Just > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to > > > breastfeed > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this > age? > > > Will > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all > 1st > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > moments > > > that > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls > how > > > to > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from > Berjuan > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > breast-feed > > > an > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special > cloth > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > > > > illustrate > > > > where the nipple is < and > > > where > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is > a > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never > too > > > young > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to > good > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and > magic > > > of > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > affection > > > in > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > >Gloton< > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > >, > > > > > > > >, > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in > the US > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > > (online > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > > Special > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > > > > student < > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > * > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > * > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation surgery and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > baby > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. He > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I went to > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough that > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > jumping > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > taboo, > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or shell > we > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the pushing > for > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own stage. > the > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > doll. > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in this > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. (and > yes, > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). Women > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, and > that > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > right > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who should > say > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt drive. > Just > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. Sex > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also natural, > our > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked if > the > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " bc it > is > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a doll > as > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > common, > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such dolls, > she > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! I > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for it > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad mother > when > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for her > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them to > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only girls? > if > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not for > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and this > doll > > took it too far too soon. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that > is > > > > twisting > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > start > > is > > > > a > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > > > > life-like > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on > > cloth > > > > diapers > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 > > 1/2 > > > > y/o > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play > > with > > > > the > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > hold. > > she > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > to > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed > her > > > > younger > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > " nurse " > > > > her > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A > > child > > > > may > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what > this > > > > doll > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > > > > options > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I > was > > a > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > children. > > > > Just > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > to > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this > > age? > > > > Will > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all > > 1st > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > > that > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls > > how > > > > to > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from > > Berjuan > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > breast-feed > > > > an > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special > > cloth > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it > to > > > > > illustrate > > > > > where the nipple is < > and > > > > where > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding > is > > a > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never > > too > > > > young > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to > > good > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and > > magic > > > > of > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > affection > > > > in > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number > of > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in > > the US > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > > > (online > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > > > Special > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > Dietetic > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Breastfeeding is NOT disgusting. I didnt say that in any place. I breast fed my 17 yo (my only one) and I loved it. I breast fed in public places and felt no problem with it (of course I was covering myself), but that is exactly what I don't want women to feel " devastated " because you can't. whether you couldn't because you took medications that don't allow you to breasfeed, because you have a n emotional/psychological issue with a baby is touched to your breast when before it was your husband (my mom did not breast feed us for that reason. She tried, didn't like it. I dont think it killed us or harmed us in any way and baby formulas where not as good as they are today, I am 45 yo. Both my sister and I were very healthy, we didnt grow up visiting the doctor for allergies or were sicker hen other kids and we never been sick, thanks G-d with any sever disease as kids, and not so far, thanks G-d), or because they have sore nipples and it really painful to them.I feel sad to hear that women like you are devastated, as if it is the end of the world if you didnt breastfeed. Its preferred, but not a must. BEing a good mother has noting to do with breasfeeding. SO many mothers are abusive in so many ways, and I am sure some of them breasfed their babies. Whats important is the relationships you build with your children and that is a process that builds up with interaction and years or good work, and human mistakes (and mothers who think they are perfect sent even more wrong messages to their children, no body is perfect). I dont like the pressure that our society brings in many issues, this is one. It should not be this way. Years ago, women only breast fed bc here was nothing else. and women who didnt had to hire a wet nurse (which is something, in todays' options) I would never do - a stranger is breasfeeding my child...ewwwww. but that's me. and years ago, women didn't have the choice of advanced education (if she was lucky to go to elementary school with her brothers), let alone the option to have a career.Just because we have the " twins " doesn't mean we should all breatfeed, and we should not be pressured either. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > CC: dignacassens@... > From: jenzingaro@... > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:49:10 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > Back in the day before formula, there was only breastfeeding. When did it > become so " disgusting " to people. I was unable to breastfeed my 7 month > old. It devastated me. I looked at the ingredients on the can of formula > and wanted to vomit. The first thing is corn syrup solids. If girls grow > up with breasfeeding dolls, then it's not going to seem so out of place or > uncomfortable for people because after all, that is what breasts are for. > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... > > wrote: > > > > > > > I see nothing wrong with it. What could be more natural? I grew up in a > > country where women breast fed (until American puritan morals were imposed > > and became popular) and then it became offensive to be sitting in the plaza, > > or the bus stop, or street corner, or church, and feed a hungry child from > > your breasts. Now, THAT’s what I call offensive. Mammals eat from the breast > > or teat, and we’re mammals. > > > > Digna > > > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > > Madalyn Friedberg > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:54 AM > > > > To: rd-usa > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > breastfeed > > > > but,my daughter is breastfeeding and her 2 yr old son sits with her and > > 'breast > > feeds " his teddy bear > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Merav Levi <meravls@... <mailto:meravls%40msn.com> > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 8:30:16 PM > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > breastfeed > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this age? > > Will > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all 1st > > graders will have to read it? > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > (Revolutionary > > Road) > > > > > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > > > From: nrord1@... <mailto:nrord1%40gmail.com> > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to > > >breastfeed > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls how > > to > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from Berjuan > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to breast-feed > > an > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special cloth > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it to > > > illustrate > > > where the nipple is < and > > where > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding is a > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never too > > young > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to good > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and magic > > of > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and affection > > in > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number of > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > >Gloton< > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > >, > > >, > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in the US > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > (online > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > Special > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic > > > student < > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > * > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > * > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen to man even w/o gynecomastia). Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation surgery > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > baby > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. He > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I went to > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough that > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > jumping > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > taboo, > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or shell > > we > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the pushing > > for > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own stage. > > the > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > doll. > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in this > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. (and > > yes, > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). Women > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, and > > that > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > right > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who should > > say > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt drive. > > Just > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. Sex > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also natural, > > our > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked if > > the > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " bc it > > is > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a doll > > as > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > common, > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such dolls, > > she > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! I > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for it > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad mother > > when > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for her > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them to > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only girls? > > if > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not for > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and this > > doll > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that > > is > > > > > twisting > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > start > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > > > > > life-like > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on > > > cloth > > > > > diapers > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 > > > 1/2 > > > > > y/o > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > hold. > > > she > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > to > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed > > her > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > " nurse " > > > > > her > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A > > > child > > > > > may > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what > > this > > > > > doll > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > > > > > options > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I > > was > > > a > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > children. > > > > > Just > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > to > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this > > > age? > > > > > Will > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all > > > 1st > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > moments > > > > > that > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > > to > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from > > > Berjuan > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > breast-feed > > > > > an > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special > > > cloth > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it > > to > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > and > > > > > where > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding > > is > > > a > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never > > > too > > > > > young > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to > > > good > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and > > > magic > > > > > of > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > affection > > > > > in > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number > > of > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in > > > the US > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > > > > (online > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > > > > Special > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > Dietetic > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen to man even w/o gynecomastia). Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation surgery > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > baby > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. He > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I went to > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough that > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > jumping > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > taboo, > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or shell > > we > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the pushing > > for > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own stage. > > the > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > doll. > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in this > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. (and > > yes, > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). Women > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, and > > that > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > right > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who should > > say > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt drive. > > Just > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. Sex > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also natural, > > our > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked if > > the > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " bc it > > is > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a doll > > as > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > common, > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such dolls, > > she > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! I > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for it > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad mother > > when > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for her > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them to > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only girls? > > if > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not for > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and this > > doll > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want to > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - she > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed in > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device that > > is > > > > > twisting > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > start > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my daughter a > > > > > life-like > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin on > > > cloth > > > > > diapers > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to her 2 > > > 1/2 > > > > > y/o > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did play > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > hold. > > > she > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > to > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me breastfeed > > her > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > " nurse " > > > > > her > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. A > > > child > > > > > may > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is what > > this > > > > > doll > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there are > > > > > options > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when I > > was > > > a > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > children. > > > > > Just > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > to > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at this > > > age? > > > > > Will > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and all > > > 1st > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > moments > > > > > that > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > > to > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little girls > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, from > > > Berjuan > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > breast-feed > > > > > an > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a special > > > cloth > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on it > > to > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > and > > > > > where > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that breast-feeding > > is > > > a > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is never > > > too > > > > > young > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes to > > > good > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder and > > > magic > > > > > of > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > affection > > > > > in > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a number > > of > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express in > > > the US > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum District: > > > > > (online > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, and > > > > > Special > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > Dietetic > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a societal issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll would be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages for the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of your points!! > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: nrord1@... > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to breastfeed > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > surgery > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > wrote: > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > > baby > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. > He > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > went to > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough > that > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > > jumping > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > > taboo, > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or > shell > > > we > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > pushing > > > for > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > stage. > > > the > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > > doll. > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in > this > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > (and > > > yes, > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > Women > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, > and > > > that > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > > right > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > should > > > say > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > drive. > > > Just > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. > Sex > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > natural, > > > our > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked > if > > > the > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " > bc it > > > is > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a > doll > > > as > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > > common, > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > dolls, > > > she > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! > I > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for > it > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > mother > > > when > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for > her > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them > to > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > girls? > > > if > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not > for > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > this > > > doll > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > moments > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > > truth, > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want > to > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - > she > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed > in > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device > that > > > is > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > > start > > > > is > > > > > > a > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > daughter a > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin > on > > > > cloth > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to > her 2 > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did > play > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > > hold. > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > breastfeed > > > her > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > her > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. > A > > > > child > > > > > > may > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > what > > > this > > > > > > doll > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there > are > > > > > > options > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when > I > > > was > > > > a > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > > children. > > > > > > Just > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at > this > > > > age? > > > > > > Will > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and > all > > > > 1st > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > the > > > > moments > > > > > > that > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > > > to > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little > girls > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > from > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > an > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > special > > > > cloth > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on > it > > > to > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > and > > > > > > where > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > breast-feeding > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is > never > > > > too > > > > > > young > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes > to > > > > good > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder > and > > > > magic > > > > > > of > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > > affection > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > number > > > of > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express > in > > > > the US > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > District: > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, > and > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 we can always respectfully agree to disagree.yes, I can see the correlation between education and breasfeeding, but I know at least one women, who is highly educated (PhD in Chemistry), who didn't want or couldn't breastfeed bc she didnt have enough milk and her husband, an MD who is also a health frick, gave her hell for not doing that. That I don't like. That's what I don't appreciate, the pressure around it. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a societal > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll would > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages for > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of your > points!! > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > surgery > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > wrote: > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > > > baby > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. > > He > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > went to > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough > > that > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > > > jumping > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > > > taboo, > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or > > shell > > > > we > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > pushing > > > > for > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > stage. > > > > the > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > > > doll. > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in > > this > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > (and > > > > yes, > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > Women > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, > > and > > > > that > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > > > right > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > should > > > > say > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > drive. > > > > Just > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. > > Sex > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > natural, > > > > our > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked > > if > > > > the > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " > > bc it > > > > is > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a > > doll > > > > as > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > > > common, > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > dolls, > > > > she > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! > > I > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for > > it > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > mother > > > > when > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for > > her > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them > > to > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > girls? > > > > if > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not > > for > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > this > > > > doll > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > > moments > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > > > truth, > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want > > to > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - > > she > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed > > in > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device > > that > > > > is > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > > > start > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > daughter a > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin > > on > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to > > her 2 > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did > > play > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > > > hold. > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > breastfeed > > > > her > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. > > A > > > > > child > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > what > > > > this > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there > > are > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when > > I > > > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > > > children. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at > > this > > > > > age? > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and > > all > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > > the > > > > > moments > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > from > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > special > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on > > it > > > > to > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > and > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > breast-feeding > > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is > > never > > > > > too > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes > > to > > > > > good > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder > > and > > > > > magic > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > > > affection > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > number > > > > of > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express > > in > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > District: > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, > > and > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 we can always respectfully agree to disagree.yes, I can see the correlation between education and breasfeeding, but I know at least one women, who is highly educated (PhD in Chemistry), who didn't want or couldn't breastfeed bc she didnt have enough milk and her husband, an MD who is also a health frick, gave her hell for not doing that. That I don't like. That's what I don't appreciate, the pressure around it. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a societal > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll would > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages for > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of your > points!! > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > surgery > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > wrote: > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > > > baby > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. > > He > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > went to > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough > > that > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > > > jumping > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > > > taboo, > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or > > shell > > > > we > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > pushing > > > > for > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > stage. > > > > the > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > > > doll. > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in > > this > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > (and > > > > yes, > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > Women > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, > > and > > > > that > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > > > right > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > should > > > > say > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > drive. > > > > Just > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. > > Sex > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > natural, > > > > our > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked > > if > > > > the > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " > > bc it > > > > is > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a > > doll > > > > as > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > > > common, > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > dolls, > > > > she > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! > > I > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for > > it > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > mother > > > > when > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for > > her > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them > > to > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > girls? > > > > if > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not > > for > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > this > > > > doll > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > > moments > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > > > truth, > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want > > to > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - > > she > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed > > in > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device > > that > > > > is > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > > > start > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > daughter a > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin > > on > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to > > her 2 > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did > > play > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > > > hold. > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > breastfeed > > > > her > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. > > A > > > > > child > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > what > > > > this > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there > > are > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when > > I > > > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > > > children. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at > > this > > > > > age? > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and > > all > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > > the > > > > > moments > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > from > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > special > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on > > it > > > > to > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > and > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > breast-feeding > > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is > > never > > > > > too > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes > > to > > > > > good > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder > > and > > > > > magic > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > > > affection > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > number > > > > of > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express > > in > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > District: > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, > > and > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue with it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years about these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no one will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit mother? Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a societal > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll would > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages for > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of your > points!! > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you compare > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " lose > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be attracted to > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it is > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could happen > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and this > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual only. I > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women but > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is shunned > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > surgery > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > wrote: > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain how a > > > > baby > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the time. > > He > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > went to > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent enough > > that > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we are > > > > jumping > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the real > > > > taboo, > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. or > > shell > > > > we > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > pushing > > > > for > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > stage. > > > > the > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with the > > > > doll. > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die in > > this > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > (and > > > > yes, > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > Women > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast feed, > > and > > > > that > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to women > > > > right > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > should > > > > say > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > drive. > > > > Just > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every age. > > Sex > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > natural, > > > > our > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house naked > > if > > > > the > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex lessons " > > bc it > > > > is > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with a > > doll > > > > as > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it is > > > > common, > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > dolls, > > > > she > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it once (! > > I > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care for > > it > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, an > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > mother > > > > when > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right for > > her > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for them > > to > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > girls? > > > > if > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am not > > for > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > this > > > > doll > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > > moments > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > > > truth, > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we want > > to > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top - > > she > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast feed > > in > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing device > > that > > > > is > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other hand a > > > > start > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > daughter a > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little pin > > on > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening to > > her 2 > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and did > > play > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a nursing > > > > hold. > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > breastfeed > > > > her > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and started to > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age appropriate. > > A > > > > > child > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > what > > > > this > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that there > > are > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just playing...when > > I > > > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of my > > > > > children. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling at > > this > > > > > age? > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting and > > all > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > > the > > > > > moments > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach little > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > from > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > special > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers painted on > > it > > > > to > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > and > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > breast-feeding > > > > is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one is > > never > > > > > too > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's attitudes > > to > > > > > good > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the wonder > > and > > > > > magic > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love and > > > > > affection > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > number > > > > of > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster Express > > in > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > District: > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift Package, > > and > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just couldn't suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and sometimes it doesn't work out. If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some of the dolls I see out there these days. Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue with > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years about > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no one > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > mother? > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: nrord1@... > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to breastfeed > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > societal > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > would > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages > for > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > your > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > compare > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " > lose > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > attracted to > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it > is > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could > happen > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and > this > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > moments > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > only. I > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women > but > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > shunned > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > > surgery > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain > how a > > > > > baby > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > time. > > > He > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > > went to > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > enough > > > that > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we > are > > > > > jumping > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the > real > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. > or > > > shell > > > > > we > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > > pushing > > > > > for > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > > stage. > > > > > the > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with > the > > > > > doll. > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die > in > > > this > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > > (and > > > > > yes, > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > > Women > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > feed, > > > and > > > > > that > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to > women > > > > > right > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > > should > > > > > say > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > > drive. > > > > > Just > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every > age. > > > Sex > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > natural, > > > > > our > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house > naked > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > lessons " > > > bc it > > > > > is > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with > a > > > doll > > > > > as > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it > is > > > > > common, > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > > dolls, > > > > > she > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > once (! > > > I > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care > for > > > it > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, > an > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > > mother > > > > > when > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right > for > > > her > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for > them > > > to > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > > girls? > > > > > if > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am > not > > > for > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > > this > > > > > doll > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > the > > > > > moments > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > the > > > > > truth, > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we > want > > > to > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top > - > > > she > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast > feed > > > in > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > device > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other > hand a > > > > > start > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little > pin > > > on > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening > to > > > her 2 > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and > did > > > play > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > nursing > > > > > hold. > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > breastfeed > > > > > her > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > started to > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > appropriate. > > > A > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > > what > > > > > this > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that > there > > > are > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > playing...when > > > I > > > > > was > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of > my > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling > at > > > this > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting > and > > > all > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > by > > > the > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in > lying " > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > little > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > > from > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > > special > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > painted on > > > it > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > breast-feeding > > > > > is > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one > is > > > never > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > attitudes > > > to > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > wonder > > > and > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love > and > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > > number > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > Express > > > in > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > > District: > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > Package, > > > and > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > " potential " > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just couldn't suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and sometimes it doesn't work out. If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some of the dolls I see out there these days. Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue with > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years about > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no one > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > mother? > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: nrord1@... > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to breastfeed > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > societal > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > would > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages > for > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > your > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > compare > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " > lose > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > attracted to > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it > is > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could > happen > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and > this > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > moments > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > only. I > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women > but > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > shunned > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > > surgery > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain > how a > > > > > baby > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > time. > > > He > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > > went to > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > enough > > > that > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we > are > > > > > jumping > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the > real > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. > or > > > shell > > > > > we > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > > pushing > > > > > for > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > > stage. > > > > > the > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with > the > > > > > doll. > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die > in > > > this > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > > (and > > > > > yes, > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > > Women > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > feed, > > > and > > > > > that > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to > women > > > > > right > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > > should > > > > > say > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > > drive. > > > > > Just > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every > age. > > > Sex > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > natural, > > > > > our > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house > naked > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > lessons " > > > bc it > > > > > is > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with > a > > > doll > > > > > as > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it > is > > > > > common, > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > > dolls, > > > > > she > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > once (! > > > I > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care > for > > > it > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, > an > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > > mother > > > > > when > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right > for > > > her > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for > them > > > to > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > > girls? > > > > > if > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am > not > > > for > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > > this > > > > > doll > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > the > > > > > moments > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > the > > > > > truth, > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we > want > > > to > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top > - > > > she > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast > feed > > > in > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > device > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other > hand a > > > > > start > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little > pin > > > on > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening > to > > > her 2 > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and > did > > > play > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > nursing > > > > > hold. > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > breastfeed > > > > > her > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > started to > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > appropriate. > > > A > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > > what > > > > > this > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that > there > > > are > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > playing...when > > > I > > > > > was > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of > my > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling > at > > > this > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting > and > > > all > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > by > > > the > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in > lying " > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > little > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > > from > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > > special > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > painted on > > > it > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > breast-feeding > > > > > is > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one > is > > > never > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > attitudes > > > to > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > wonder > > > and > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love > and > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > > number > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > Express > > > in > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > > District: > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > Package, > > > and > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > " potential " > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 YOu see, thats what I didn't want, you to feel that you have to clarify. Why? What if you didn't want, didn't like it, and in your case it was your son who could " do the job " , so what? Yes, it is healthier, more economical, more everything, always ready to use, but it just doesn't work for 100% of the women. Just like you dont need to explain to anyone why you chose to ware your " last season Prada shoes " today for the parade, you dont need to explain to no one why you didnt breatfeed. It should be as simple as that. " I didnt breast feed " and thats it, no judgment, no hard feelings no guilt. That's all I want. YOu do - great, you don't - you owe me (or for that matter, society) no explanation.I am sorry that I made you feel you need to explain and dig into your personal information. To each their won how and where personal starts and where it ends. and each of us entitled to our own boundaries and that should be accepted by all. Thats all I am asking for.Glad you get my crazy sense of humor through e-mail. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > CC: meravls@... > From: jenzingaro@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to > have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. > It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just couldn't > suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and > sometimes it doesn't work out. > If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some of > the dolls I see out there these days. > > Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the > questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > > > > > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue with > > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years about > > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no one > > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > > mother? > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > > societal > > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > > would > > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages > > for > > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > > your > > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > > compare > > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " > > lose > > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > > attracted to > > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it > > is > > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could > > happen > > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and > > this > > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > > only. I > > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women > > but > > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > > shunned > > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > > > surgery > > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain > > how a > > > > > > baby > > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > > time. > > > > He > > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > > > went to > > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > > enough > > > > that > > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we > > are > > > > > > jumping > > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the > > real > > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. > > or > > > > shell > > > > > > we > > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > > > pushing > > > > > > for > > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > > > stage. > > > > > > the > > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with > > the > > > > > > doll. > > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > > > (and > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > > > Women > > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > > feed, > > > > and > > > > > > that > > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to > > women > > > > > > right > > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > > > should > > > > > > say > > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > > > drive. > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every > > age. > > > > Sex > > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > > natural, > > > > > > our > > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house > > naked > > > > if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > > lessons " > > > > bc it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with > > a > > > > doll > > > > > > as > > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it > > is > > > > > > common, > > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > > > dolls, > > > > > > she > > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > > once (! > > > > I > > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care > > for > > > > it > > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, > > an > > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > > > mother > > > > > > when > > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right > > for > > > > her > > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for > > them > > > > to > > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > > > girls? > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am > > not > > > > for > > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > > > this > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > > the > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > > the > > > > > > truth, > > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we > > want > > > > to > > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top > > - > > > > she > > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast > > feed > > > > in > > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > > device > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other > > hand a > > > > > > start > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little > > pin > > > > on > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening > > to > > > > her 2 > > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and > > did > > > > play > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > > nursing > > > > > > hold. > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > > started to > > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > > appropriate. > > > > A > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > > > what > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that > > there > > > > are > > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > > playing...when > > > > I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of > > my > > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling > > at > > > > this > > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting > > and > > > > all > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in > > lying " > > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > > little > > > > girls > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > > > from > > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > > > special > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > > painted on > > > > it > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > > breast-feeding > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one > > is > > > > never > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > > attitudes > > > > to > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > > wonder > > > > and > > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love > > and > > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > > > number > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > > Express > > > > in > > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > > > District: > > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > > Package, > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > > " potential " > > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 YOu see, thats what I didn't want, you to feel that you have to clarify. Why? What if you didn't want, didn't like it, and in your case it was your son who could " do the job " , so what? Yes, it is healthier, more economical, more everything, always ready to use, but it just doesn't work for 100% of the women. Just like you dont need to explain to anyone why you chose to ware your " last season Prada shoes " today for the parade, you dont need to explain to no one why you didnt breatfeed. It should be as simple as that. " I didnt breast feed " and thats it, no judgment, no hard feelings no guilt. That's all I want. YOu do - great, you don't - you owe me (or for that matter, society) no explanation.I am sorry that I made you feel you need to explain and dig into your personal information. To each their won how and where personal starts and where it ends. and each of us entitled to our own boundaries and that should be accepted by all. Thats all I am asking for.Glad you get my crazy sense of humor through e-mail. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > CC: meravls@... > From: jenzingaro@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to > have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. > It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just couldn't > suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and > sometimes it doesn't work out. > If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some of > the dolls I see out there these days. > > Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the > questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > > > > > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue with > > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years about > > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no one > > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > > mother? > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > From: nrord1@... > > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > > societal > > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young WIC > > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast feed > > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who does > > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > > would > > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and messages > > for > > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > > your > > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > > compare > > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and " must " > > lose > > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > > attracted to > > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up (hopefully > > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to liver > > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just fat, it > > is > > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which could > > happen > > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy of > > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For some > > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, and > > this > > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > > only. I > > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than women > > but > > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > > shunned > > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast augmentation > > > > surgery > > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to explain > > how a > > > > > > baby > > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > > time. > > > > He > > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out when I > > > > went to > > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got in > > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > > enough > > > > that > > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and we > > are > > > > > > jumping > > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's the > > real > > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the world. > > or > > > > shell > > > > > > we > > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with the > > > > pushing > > > > > > for > > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its own > > > > stage. > > > > > > the > > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play with > > the > > > > > > doll. > > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will die > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast fed. > > > > (and > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the USA). > > > > Women > > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > > feed, > > > > and > > > > > > that > > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened to > > women > > > > > > right > > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones who > > > > should > > > > > > say > > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the guilt > > > > drive. > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for every > > age. > > > > Sex > > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > > natural, > > > > > > our > > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the house > > naked > > > > if > > > > > > the > > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > > lessons " > > > > bc it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing with > > a > > > > doll > > > > > > as > > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I know it > > is > > > > > > common, > > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with such > > > > dolls, > > > > > > she > > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > > once (! > > > > I > > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't care > > for > > > > it > > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my opinion, > > an > > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a bad > > > > mother > > > > > > when > > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is right > > for > > > > her > > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, for > > them > > > > to > > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why only > > > > girls? > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but I am > > not > > > > for > > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much and > > > > this > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by > > the > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > > the > > > > > > truth, > > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when we > > want > > > > to > > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her top > > - > > > > she > > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still breast > > feed > > > > in > > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > > device > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the other > > hand a > > > > > > start > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple little > > pin > > > > on > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude awakening > > to > > > > her 2 > > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion and > > did > > > > play > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > > nursing > > > > > > hold. > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > > started to > > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > > appropriate. > > > > A > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, which is > > > > what > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning that > > there > > > > are > > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > > playing...when > > > > I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both of > > my > > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast feedling > > at > > > > this > > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are Expecting > > and > > > > all > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in > > lying " > > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > > little > > > > girls > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> doll, > > > > from > > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls how to > > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes with a > > > > special > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > > painted on > > > > it > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > > breast-feeding > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that one > > is > > > > never > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > > attitudes > > > > to > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > > wonder > > > > and > > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their love > > and > > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and sells a > > > > number > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > > Express > > > > in > > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301>Plum > > > > District: > > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > > Package, > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > > " potential " > > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Giving this doll is NOT pushing or making anyone breast feed - sorry you got that opinion. A woman's body is her's alone!!! Just like giving a child a baby doll (male or female)are we pressuring them to have kids. Or giving a child a GI Joe doll are we expecting them to join the Army. > > YOu see, thats what I didn't want, you to feel that you have to clarify. > Why? What if you didn't want, didn't like it, and in your case it was your > son who could " do the job " , so what? Yes, it is healthier, more economical, > more everything, always ready to use, but it just doesn't work for 100% of > the women. Just like you dont need to explain to anyone why you chose to > ware your " last season Prada shoes " today for the parade, you dont need to > explain to no one why you didnt breatfeed. It should be as simple as that. > " I didnt breast feed " and thats it, no judgment, no hard feelings no guilt. > That's all I want. YOu do - great, you don't - you owe me (or for that > matter, society) no explanation.I am sorry that I made you feel you need to > explain and dig into your personal information. To each their won how and > where personal starts and where it ends. and each of us entitled to our own > boundaries and that should be accepted by all. Thats all I am asking > for.Glad you get my crazy sense of humor through e-mail. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > CC: meravls@... > > From: jenzingaro@... > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:23 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > to breastfeed > > > > I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to > > have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. > > It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just > couldn't > > suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and > > sometimes it doesn't work out. > > If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some > of > > the dolls I see out there these days. > > > > Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the > > questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue > with > > > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years > about > > > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > > > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > > > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no > one > > > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > > > mother? > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > moments > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > how > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > > > societal > > > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young > WIC > > > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast > feed > > > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who > does > > > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > > > would > > > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and > messages > > > for > > > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > > > your > > > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > > > compare > > > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and > " must " > > > lose > > > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > > > attracted to > > > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up > (hopefully > > > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to > liver > > > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just > fat, it > > > is > > > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which > could > > > happen > > > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy > of > > > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For > some > > > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, > and > > > this > > > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > moments > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > the > > > truth, > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > girls > > > how > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > > > only. I > > > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than > women > > > but > > > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > > > shunned > > > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast > augmentation > > > > > surgery > > > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro < > jenzingaro@...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to > explain > > > how a > > > > > > > baby > > > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > > > time. > > > > > He > > > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out > when I > > > > > went to > > > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got > in > > > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > > > enough > > > > > that > > > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his > curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and > we > > > are > > > > > > > jumping > > > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's > the > > > real > > > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the > world. > > > or > > > > > shell > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with > the > > > > > pushing > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its > own > > > > > stage. > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play > with > > > the > > > > > > > doll. > > > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will > die > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast > fed. > > > > > (and > > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the > USA). > > > > > Women > > > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > > > feed, > > > > > and > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened > to > > > women > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones > who > > > > > should > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the > guilt > > > > > drive. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for > every > > > age. > > > > > Sex > > > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > > > natural, > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the > house > > > naked > > > > > if > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > > > lessons " > > > > > bc it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing > with > > > a > > > > > doll > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I > know it > > > is > > > > > > > common, > > > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with > such > > > > > dolls, > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > > > once (! > > > > > I > > > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't > care > > > for > > > > > it > > > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my > opinion, > > > an > > > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a > bad > > > > > mother > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is > right > > > for > > > > > her > > > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, > for > > > them > > > > > to > > > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why > only > > > > > girls? > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but > I am > > > not > > > > > for > > > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much > and > > > > > this > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > by > > > the > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't > forget > > > the > > > > > > > truth, > > > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when > we > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her > top > > > - > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still > breast > > > feed > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > > > device > > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the > other > > > hand a > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple > little > > > pin > > > > > on > > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude > awakening > > > to > > > > > her 2 > > > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion > and > > > did > > > > > play > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > > > nursing > > > > > > > hold. > > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > > > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > young > > > > > girls > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > > > started to > > > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > > > appropriate. > > > > > A > > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, > which is > > > > > what > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning > that > > > there > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > > > playing...when > > > > > I > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both > of > > > my > > > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > young > > > > > girls > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast > feedling > > > at > > > > > this > > > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are > Expecting > > > and > > > > > all > > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, > but > > > by > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better > in > > > lying " > > > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > young > > > girls > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > > > little > > > > > girls > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> > doll, > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls > how to > > > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and > child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes > with a > > > > > special > > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > > > painted on > > > > > it > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > > > breast-feeding > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that > one > > > is > > > > > never > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > > > attitudes > > > > > to > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > > > wonder > > > > > and > > > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their > love > > > and > > > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and > sells a > > > > > number > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* < > http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > > > Express > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301 > >Plum > > > > > District: > > > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > > > Package, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > > > " potential " > > > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 to answer all you questions in one word: Yes. Yes, we do push them/us to have kids (how d we, as a society, look at women who didn't have kids. Either " something is wrong with her for not wanting them " or " poor women, she couldn't ahve kids " and thats yet another double standard against women, bc no one ever thinks " mmmm maybe her husband whom she loves dearly, is a sterile and adoption is not an option for them " ), and yes we do tell them that a girl in the army is fine.Now, ,I know you from this list-serve by now, just a bit, and we always shared great respect to one another, so I think you might want to rephrase the " I'm sorry that you have that opinion " . Please think about what it means, I am sure thats not what you meant. We agree to disagree but dont feel sorry for my opinion. I am a grown adult and I own my mind as well. I didnt kill anybody, I didn't offend anybody. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > To: rd-usa > From: nrord1@... > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:06:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed > > Giving this doll is NOT pushing or making anyone breast feed - sorry you got > that opinion. A woman's body is her's alone!!! Just like giving a child a > baby doll (male or female)are we pressuring them to have kids. Or giving a > child a GI Joe doll are we expecting them to join the Army. > > > > > > > YOu see, thats what I didn't want, you to feel that you have to clarify. > > Why? What if you didn't want, didn't like it, and in your case it was your > > son who could " do the job " , so what? Yes, it is healthier, more economical, > > more everything, always ready to use, but it just doesn't work for 100% of > > the women. Just like you dont need to explain to anyone why you chose to > > ware your " last season Prada shoes " today for the parade, you dont need to > > explain to no one why you didnt breatfeed. It should be as simple as that. > > " I didnt breast feed " and thats it, no judgment, no hard feelings no guilt. > > That's all I want. YOu do - great, you don't - you owe me (or for that > > matter, society) no explanation.I am sorry that I made you feel you need to > > explain and dig into your personal information. To each their won how and > > where personal starts and where it ends. and each of us entitled to our own > > boundaries and that should be accepted by all. Thats all I am asking > > for.Glad you get my crazy sense of humor through e-mail. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > CC: meravls@... > > > From: jenzingaro@... > > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:23 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how > > to breastfeed > > > > > > I just want to clarify that I was devastated because I wanted my baby to > > > have breastmilk as opposed to all that crap they put in baby formula. > > > It didn't ruin any experience that I had with the baby... He just > > couldn't > > > suck properly to stimulate milk production... I gave it every effort and > > > sometimes it doesn't work out. > > > If I had a daughter, I'd love for her to have one of those dolls vs. some > > of > > > the dolls I see out there these days. > > > > > > Merav- I did chuckle when you said your husband couldn't handle the > > > questions... I could just picture it in my head... all the " why, why " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know, I respect your daughter specialty and would not argue > > with > > > > it, I wonder of the studies that will be done , if at all, in 10 years > > about > > > > these girls attitude on breasfeeding. and what if these girls will be > > > > devastated if they couldn't for whichever reason? SHouldn't we at least > > > > teach then that if you didn't its not the end of the world?, that no > > one > > > > will crucify you for that, or look down at you as if you are an unfit > > > > mother? > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > moments > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:06:55 -0400 > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls > > how > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > But that feeling of not wanting them to be touched by a baby is a > > > > societal > > > > > issue that needs correcting? I have discussed this issue with young > > WIC > > > > > participants. Interesting the more educated woman tends to breast > > feed > > > > > more. I have discussed this issue with my 29 year old daughter who > > does > > > > > research on the media effects on sexual health. She thinks the doll > > > > would > > > > > be a great gift as opposed to the sexualized clothes, toys and > > messages > > > > for > > > > > the youngster out there now. So I respectfully disagree with many of > > > > your > > > > > points!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - in our society there is so much double standards when you > > > > compare > > > > > > men and women. Women have 5 extra pounds and they are " fat " and > > " must " > > > > lose > > > > > > it. Man can be 50 lbs overwt and we will still love them and be > > > > attracted to > > > > > > them bc we love who they are as ppl and how they treat up > > (hopefully > > > > > > good).Man who have bigger breast then we do, could be also due to > > liver > > > > > > disease and they develop breasts - Gynecomastia - its not just > > fat, it > > > > is > > > > > > an actual breast tissue and they are prone to breast CA (which > > could > > > > happen > > > > > > to man even w/o gynecomastia). > > > > > > Breast are not just sexual, but they are also sexual. and the joy > > of > > > > > > breastfeeding is very different from the joy of sexual touch. For > > some > > > > > > women, it is difficult to separate, and they feel weird about it, > > and > > > > this > > > > > > is their right to feel how they want to feel w/o any pressure. > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the > > > > moments > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget > > the > > > > truth, > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:18:49 -0400 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young > > girls > > > > how > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe instead it is time to stop " glamorizing " breasts as sexual > > > > only. I > > > > > > > have seen men with " bigger " boobs (mostly overweight men) than > > women > > > > but > > > > > > > they can go shirtless in public whereas a woman breastfeeding is > > > > shunned > > > > > > > even when she covers up. Why are women getting breast > > augmentation > > > > > > surgery > > > > > > > and in some cases unable to breastfeed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jen Zingaro < > > jenzingaro@...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can talk to a kid about breastfeeding and not have to > > explain > > > > how a > > > > > > > > baby > > > > > > > > was born. I had a baby in July... I had a 3.5 year old at the > > > > time. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > knew there was a baby in my belly... and he knew it came out > > when I > > > > > > went to > > > > > > > > the hospital. That was good for him. He didn't ask how it got > > in > > > > > > > > there...and if he did, I would have told him something innocent > > > > enough > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > would both not be a lie, and would have satisfied his > > curiousity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Merav Levi > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because it is sick. She doesn't even sexually developed and > > we > > > > are > > > > > > > > jumping > > > > > > > > > into breasfeeding? How did the baby get there..wooooo that's > > the > > > > real > > > > > > > > taboo, > > > > > > > > > dare we teach the true facts about how babies come to the > > world. > > > > or > > > > > > shell > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > have now Barbie and Ken perform for the kids too?Enough with > > the > > > > > > pushing > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > breast feeding from age zero. For each age - there is its > > own > > > > > > stage. > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > girl in the clip didn't look as if she even enjoyed to play > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > doll. > > > > > > > > > WHy do we stress so much breastfeedling as if our babies will > > die > > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > country (not in the 3rd world country) if the are not breast > > fed. > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > yes, > > > > > > > > > I know all the benefits, but its not do or die, not in the > > USA). > > > > > > Women > > > > > > > > > develop too many guilt feeling when they choose not to breast > > > > feed, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > transfered to the child, which is not healthy. What happened > > to > > > > women > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > to choose.... it is still our body and we are the only ones > > who > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > what we want and not want to be done with it, without the > > guilt > > > > > > drive. > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > because it is natural it doesn't mean it appropriate for > > every > > > > age. > > > > > > Sex > > > > > > > > > (oops, sorry, the cabbage that brought the baby here) is also > > > > > > natural, > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > naked body is very natural, yet we do not walk around the > > house > > > > naked > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > kids are around (I hope), and we don't give them " live sex > > > > lessons " > > > > > > bc it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > creating problems later in life.and if you ask me - playing > > with > > > > a > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > if she is your baby - sorry - very sexist in my book, I > > know it > > > > is > > > > > > > > common, > > > > > > > > > was not encouraged in my home, My daughter never played with > > such > > > > > > dolls, > > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > got only one barbie in her life, she was 4 yo. Played with it > > > > once (! > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > didn't encourage the play nor discouraged it) and couldn't > > care > > > > for > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > later. It ended up in the garbage, where it belongs (my > > opinion, > > > > an > > > > > > > > > anorexia-inducing doll) and I dont think it will make her a > > bad > > > > > > mother > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > she will become one, if she would want to, when the time is > > right > > > > for > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > (not a moment earlier!).Why dont we buy this doll to boys, > > for > > > > them > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > " learn " what mommy is doing with their new baby-sibling. Why > > only > > > > > > girls? > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > it is so natural?I breast fed my daughter and enjoyed it but > > I am > > > > not > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > all this pressure and overall campaign for it. it is too much > > and > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > > took it too far too soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNA dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but > > by > > > > the > > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > > that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't > > forget > > > > the > > > > > > > > truth, > > > > > > > > > they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:48:58 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > > young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are we not offended when baby dolls have bottles when > > we > > > > want > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > encourage breastfeeding. The little girl doesn't raise her > > top > > > > - > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > actually breastfeeds on the cloth showing you can still > > breast > > > > feed > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > public without whipping out a breast. I like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Vajda < > > > > > > > > > jennyvajda@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Merav and . It seems like a marketing > > > > device > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > twisting > > > > > > > > > > > natural role modeling too far for the age but on the > > other > > > > hand a > > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > start. While expecting her with little brother, I gave my > > > > > > daughter a > > > > > > > > > > > life-like > > > > > > > > > > > baby doll and mini sling to carry it in and a couple > > little > > > > pin > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > > diapers > > > > > > > > > > > to fit (seamstress at that point) - he was a rude > > awakening > > > > to > > > > > > her 2 > > > > > > > > > 1/2 > > > > > > > > > > > y/o > > > > > > > > > > > self centric world. She adapted to the brother invasion > > and > > > > did > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > doll, carry it in the sling and occasionally hold it in a > > > > nursing > > > > > > > > hold. > > > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continued to prefer her cheetah family of animal models > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vajda, R.D. > > > > > > > > > > > www.GingerJens.com <http://www.gingerjens.com/> < > > > > http://www.gingerjens.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:56:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > > young > > > > > > girls > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my daughter didn't need a special doll. She saw me > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > younger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brother and one day she just pulled down her shirt and > > > > started to > > > > > > > > > " nurse " > > > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > doll. Whatever is put out there just needs to be age > > > > appropriate. > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > be a bit young to learn the details of how to nurse, > > which is > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > doll > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be trying to teach. However, I think learning > > that > > > > there > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > options > > > > > > > > > > > to feeding are ok. I understand that kids are just > > > > playing...when > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > child, my baby dolls had bottles, and I still nursed both > > of > > > > my > > > > > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > > > my opinion. Have a good weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD, LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 2:30:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > > young > > > > > > girls > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it some what sickening.... to promote breast > > feedling > > > > at > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > age? > > > > > > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > > that come with the book What to Expect when you are > > Expecting > > > > and > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > > > > graders will have to read it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN > > > > > > > > > > > A dietitian, not the food police. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, > > but > > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > moments > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > take your breath away. " - Carlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better > > in > > > > lying " > > > > > > > > > > > (Revolutionary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Road) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > > From: nrord1@... > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches > > young > > > > girls > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > >breastfeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: The Breast Milk Baby doll is designed to teach > > > > little > > > > > > girls > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > breast-feed an infant.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as being too young to learn to > > > > > > breast-feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Breast Milk Baby <http://thebreastmilkbaby.com/> > > doll, > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Berjuan > > > > > > > > > > > > Toys, is specifically designed to teach little girls > > how to > > > > > > > > > breast-feed > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > infant and learn about the bond between mother and > > child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the baby doll, the Breast Milk Baby comes > > with a > > > > > > special > > > > > > > > > cloth > > > > > > > > > > > > top for the youngster to wear. The shirt has flowers > > > > painted on > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > illustrate > > > > > > > > > > > > where the nipple is < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > the girl should guide the doll's mouth to suckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The goal of the doll is to spread the message that > > > > > > breast-feeding > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > positive health choice for the child – a message that > > one > > > > is > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > > > young > > > > > > > > > > > > to learn, according to the company press release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby will revolutionize our nation's > > > > attitudes > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > infant health, while letting little girls share in the > > > > wonder > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > magic > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > motherhood, " the company writes on its website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The Breast Milk Baby lets young girls express their > > love > > > > and > > > > > > > > > affection > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > the most natural way possible, just like mommy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Berjuan toy company is located in > > > > > > > > > > > > Spain<http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Spain>and > > sells a > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > baby dolls as well as the Breast Milk Baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Spanish-language version of the doll, Bebe > > > > > > > > > > > >Gloton< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/08/11/2009-08-11_what_a_doll_bebe_glot\ on_a_breastfeeding_toy_for_children_makes_sucking_noises_as.html > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > > > > > has been available since 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2011/03/23/2011-03-23_breast_milk_baby_doll\ _teaches_young_girls_how_to_breastfeed.html#ixzz1HYpSYCiI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Ortiz, MS, RD > > > > > > > > > > > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* < > > http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition > > > > > > > > > > > > Groupon: $2 for Five Movie Rentals from Any Blockbuster > > > > Express > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the US > > > > > > > > > > > > ($5 Value) <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17301 > > >Plum > > > > > > District: > > > > > > > > > > > (online > > > > > > > > > > > > deal) $10 for a Personalized (customized) Letter, Gift > > > > Package, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > > > > Bonus Photo from the Easter Bunny < > > > > > > > > > > > http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=17296>Made > > > > > > > > > > > > my own " funny but real " movie: Me interviewing a > > > > " potential " > > > > > > > > Dietetic > > > > > > > > > > > > student < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *at the years people have behind them but also the > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *quality of the years ahead of them.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I shared my homemade doll sling/cloth diaper set/baby doll story, I think, to illustrate that every home is going to have a slightly different role models and that the little girl will learn what she sees/is suggested to think. My daughter was seeing a baby being nursed and would occasionally hold her baby doll that way - no flower petal top necessary. The doll with it's accompanying flower petal top is a start - mixed feelings about whether it is a good start - but I think any positive talk about breast feeding in the media is a positive advancement. It is guidance to parents that it is okay for little girls to play mother in more ways than holding a fake bottle. The Continuum Concept (pub 1975-Leidloff), was instrumental to my parenting style, see PS for links/more. It is sad and devastating when things don't work out even with tons of effort. Formula substitutes are better than nothing and better than they used to be. The " sexy " clothing and advertisements for little girl outfits bothers me more than the breast fed baby doll. And the height and discomfort of womens shoe fashions seems a backward step for womankind. Are stiletto's and pointy toes a sign of power or of suppression? As someone with wide feet it is mostly jealousy rather than common sense fueling that petty thought. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com PS - fact checking my favorite parenting book and found out the author passed away and that there are a number of websites about 'continuum concept' as a precursor to attachment parenting - did not know that - was a used paperback I picked up for a dollar at the time. (1987) " March 15, 2011 – Liedloff, author of The Continuum Concept, passed away peacefully in her home, a houseboat near San Francisco. She had been ill for many months and was receiving hospice care to ease her suffering. (1926-2011) Prior to her passing, expressed gratitude for a fulfilling life and the honor of carrying a message that has positively affected the lives of so many children and parents. She felt happy knowing that those people are keeping her message alive by living it and sharing it with others. We have created a memorial website where Jean's readers and friends can post their thoughts about the impact of her work on their lives, here. For a summary of Jean's life and accomplishments, you can read her obituary here. " http://www.continuum-concept.org/news.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 IMHO is that I’d rather see big boobs on dolls that are a role model for breast feeding, than big boobs on a Barbie doll. But then, how children are introduced to any concept should really be a parental choice. Toys are available but don’t have to be bought or allowed if anyone doesn’t want them to be used in their homes or by their children. I agree with you . I used to prepare formulas during my internship at CharityHospital. There were many mothers that weren’t able to produce milk, many infants that could not nurse. We do what we have to. I doubt we’ll ever find the ‘perfect’ formula – and yes, that IS a pun, good or bad. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Vajda Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Breast Milk Baby doll toy teaches young girls how to breastfeed I shared my homemade doll sling/cloth diaper set/baby doll story, I think, to illustrate that every home is going to have a slightly different role models and that the little girl will learn what she sees/is suggested to think. My daughter was seeing a baby being nursed and would occasionally hold her baby doll that way - no flower petal top necessary. The doll with it's accompanying flower petal top is a start - mixed feelings about whether it is a good start - but I think any positive talk about breast feeding in the media is a positive advancement. It is guidance to parents that it is okay for little girls to play mother in more ways than holding a fake bottle. The Continuum Concept (pub 1975-Leidloff), was instrumental to my parenting style, see PS for links/more. It is sad and devastating when things don't work out even with tons of effort. Formula substitutes are better than nothing and better than they used to be. The " sexy " clothing and advertisements for little girl outfits bothers me more than the breast fed baby doll. And the height and discomfort of womens shoe fashions seems a backward step for womankind. Are stiletto's and pointy toes a sign of power or of suppression? As someone with wide feet it is mostly jealousy rather than common sense fueling that petty thought. Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com PS - fact checking my favorite parenting book and found out the author passed away and that there are a number of websites about 'continuum concept' as a precursor to attachment parenting - did not know that - was a used paperback I picked up for a dollar at the time. (1987) " March 15, 2011 – Liedloff, author of The Continuum Concept, passed away peacefully in her home, a houseboat near San Francisco. She had been ill for many months and was receiving hospice care to ease her suffering. (1926-2011) Prior to her passing, expressed gratitude for a fulfilling life and the honor of carrying a message that has positively affected the lives of so many children and parents. She felt happy knowing that those people are keeping her message alive by living it and sharing it with others. We have created a memorial website where Jean's readers and friends can post their thoughts about the impact of her work on their lives, here. For a summary of Jean's life and accomplishments, you can read her obituary here. " http://www.continuum-concept.org/news.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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