Re: Re: Breast milk ice cream

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The milk banks are located primarily in children’s specialty hospitals. The

banked milk

goes primarily to NICU babies because other babies are sent home shortly after

birth.

The problem is that not all hospitals have banks due to their cost—screening

the

donors, transporting and storing the milk, etc.

Ro

From: Vajda

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:18 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Re: Breast milk ice cream

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19660997 [setting up a donor milk bank

within a neonatal unit]. An Pediatr (Barc). 2009 Oct;71(4):343-8. Epub 2009 Aug

6. - free article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20211005 Does opening a milk bank in a

neonatal unit change infant feeding practices? A before and after study. Int

Breastfeed J. 2010 Mar 8;5:4. -free article

Human milk banks exist, just not very many places yet.

R Vajda, R.D.

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From: Gilpin <mailto:jenniferschmerge%40yahoo.com>

To: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 6:14:25 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Breast milk ice cream

Yes, I have heard of many moms in my local community mother's group that donate

extra milk to a milk bank(?) I think that is what they call it. The moms do

have to have regular blood tests to screen for diseases such as HIV and

hepatitis that can be spread through breast milk.

I am not sure what babies are eligible to receive the donated milk. If it is

just high risk babies or any baby can receive it.

>

> >

> >

> > However most mammals don't make it that easy for others to access. And

> > getting

> > it to come out is actually a physical learned task. I imagine the animal

> > kingdom

> > has some examples of milk bandits but I think if mama wolf let the

jungle

> > boy in

> > with her litter it was out of kindness not thievery on jungle boy's

part.

> > ing occurs though. The cuckoo lays its eggs in other bird's nests

and

> > the

> > other birds take care of the baby. Neglectful parenting taken to a new

> > level

> > -cuckoo babies have been found with 150 different types of parent birds

-

> > (none

> > with breasts however - I got lost in the woods a moment).

> >

> > A wet nurse was a regular position with hiring guidelines to follow in

> > certain

> > times and places. I think it is a shame that the ice cream got shut down

so

> > fast

> > - expensive novelty is where things start - trendy and expensive and

then

> > everyone wants it. We may need martini glasses of human milk ice cream

to

> > forward the true purpose of the mammary equipment (is breast best or is

> > mammary

> > gland better - cleaner and more science-y?) On the other hand it could

be

> > early

> > days and just promoting the Ewww response - a backwards step.

> >

> > I have been thinking that as a medicinal super food sort of thing that

> > breast

> > milk might have potential and why shouldn't women have the option of a

> > different

> > form of productivity. However a society would need to question its

values

> > when

> > babies don't get the breast milk but billionaires do.

> >

> > I am for more human milk banks for babies, with 'donated' milk that is

> > screened

> > but some reimbursement incentive would probably be needed to support the

> > womens'

> > efforts. Formula really isn't as good, so how can we make " wet nurse " a

> > respected profession with skilled lactation specialists. Some might be

> > lactation

> > coaches that aren't just banking milk but might have some interactive

> > training

> > sessions to help mom and baby learn the skills to support their own

breast

> > feeding dyad.

> >

> > I don't think we know enough about communicable disease yet - human milk

> > ice

> > cream really was a health gamble. Why risk for novelty? Bungee jump or

> > share

> > bodily fluids - a toss up.

> >

> > Screened, trained, motivated workers supplying an essential service to

> > infant

> > and maternal development - that would be a novelty I would like to see.

> >

> > R Vajda, R.D.

> > www.GingerJens.com

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " Rowell, " <mailto:drowell%40mt.gov <mailto:drowell%40mt.gov> >

> > To: " mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> "

<mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:40:29 AM

> > Subject: RE: Re: Breast milk ice cream

> >

> > You make a good point about how we think human milk from another human

is

> > gross,

> > but will slug down cow's milk or goats milk like it's perfectly OK.

Funny!

> > But

> > we aren't the only species who will drink other mammals' milk. We just

have

> >

> > thumbs and can get to it. Any mammal will scarf down another mammal's

milk,

> > if

> > they can get to it.

> >

> > W. Rowell, RD, LN

> > Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

> > Consultant Dietitian, Long Term Care

> > Certified LEAP Therapist

> >

> > From: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

Of

> > zfam5

> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:32 PM

> > To: mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: Breast milk ice cream

> >

> > This is funny! And interesting how many would say " eww " . Not for

nothing,

> > but we

> > are the only species that continues to drink other animals " body

fluids " .

> > Granted it is tested and such. So I would pose the question, If we

tested,

> > regulated and bottled breast milk for consumption would we still think

it

> > was

> > gross? After all, Human Milk is the milk that got us through the first

> > 39,800

> > years of humanity. Just a thought from a breast feeding mom. And I hate

> > that so

> > many people think it is gross. I personally wouldn't drink my neighbors'

> > milk

> > but comparatively we drink how many different cow's, goats and sheep's

> > milk?

> >

> >

> > >

> > > A London council has confiscated supplies of breast milk ice cream

from a

> > > specialty parlor that launched the new variety in the British capital

> > last

> > > week on concerns that the frozen treat might spread viruses.

> > >

> > > Westminster Council said it had visited the Icecreamists restaurant in

> > > London's Covent Garden and removed all ice cream containing breast

milk

> > for

> > > testing after being contacted by members of the public and the Food

> > > Standards Agency.

> > >

> > > " Selling foodstuffs made from another person's bodily fluids can lead

to

> > > viruses being passed on and in this case, potentially hepatitis, " said

> >

> > > Connell, Westminster Council's Cabinet member for business.

> > >

> >

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