Re: Re: Seriously? This is an insult to our profession

April 2, 2011

I charged $2,500 for one month menu with seasonal changes! But then I

ask to be able to see Medicare Diabetics who need and want MNT at the

ALC!

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> I would love to be " insulted " at $30-35/hr. with benefits. I have

> been a dietitian for over 25 years and the only time I have made

> that was as an independent consultant with no benefits. The top of

> the market where I live is $24-26/hr plus benefits with experience.

> Newbies get $19-21/hr.

>

> As for the menus.. Years ago I was asked to " just sign " an ALF menu

> where a typical meal was: BLT; potato chips; jello; juice (unlikely

> to be 100%). I told them what needed to be done to correct the menus

> (basically start over and what the requirements were) and refused to

> sign them. They asked why I couldn't just sign them or rewrite them.

> They were told what it would cost if I wrote them. I never heard

> from them again. In this state, if you sign menus you have to

> provide a copy of your registration and license. Do you really want

> to give those out to just any one for $30?

>

> Mavis , RDLD

>

> >

> > So true:)

> >> >

> > > > > Need a Registered Dietician (RD) for editing menu $30 (DFW)

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Date: 2011-03-30, 10:27AM CDT

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Reply to

> > >

> > > > gigs-

> > >

> > > > 64zqs-

> > >

> > > > 2295088906@

> > >

> > > > craigslist.org<mailto:gigs-64zqs-2295088906%40craigslist.org>

> > >

> > > > [Errors when replying to

> > >

> > > > > ads?]

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > We have a 30 day menu that needs to be looked over by a

> Registered

> > >

> > > > > Dietician - RD. It is a pretty standard menu and just needs

> some

> > >

> > > > > proofreading.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Location: DFW

> > >

> > > > > it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other

> > > commercial

> > >

> > > > > interests

> > >

> > > > > Compensation: $30

>

April 2, 2011

Perfectly said !

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Re: Seriously? This is an insult to our profession

Supply and demand, colleagues...as long as there is even ONE dietitian who will

accept this pay rate, it will persist.

Don't get mad at the company who posted it, point your fingers at the colleagues

who keep the bar low for all of us.

I walked off my last job for someone else because I was being asked to do way

too much and when I could not meet the expectations was scapegoated. I realized

the only way they'd " get it " was to try to fill the position. After three

turnovers in 2/3 the time I lasted there, they finally caved and created FIVE

positions out of the one they fully expected me to fill.

There simply was no supply of dietitians who could meet the unreasonable

demands. Some employers have to be given more concrete lessons than others.

Monika M. Woolsey, MS, RD

http://www.incyst.com

April 2, 2011

Perfectly said !

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Re: Seriously? This is an insult to our profession

Supply and demand, colleagues...as long as there is even ONE dietitian who will

accept this pay rate, it will persist.

Don't get mad at the company who posted it, point your fingers at the colleagues

who keep the bar low for all of us.

I walked off my last job for someone else because I was being asked to do way

too much and when I could not meet the expectations was scapegoated. I realized

the only way they'd " get it " was to try to fill the position. After three

turnovers in 2/3 the time I lasted there, they finally caved and created FIVE

positions out of the one they fully expected me to fill.

There simply was no supply of dietitians who could meet the unreasonable

demands. Some employers have to be given more concrete lessons than others.

Monika M. Woolsey, MS, RD

http://www.incyst.com

April 2, 2011

I'll second that:)

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> Perfectly said !

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Seriously? This is an insult to our profession

>

> Supply and demand, colleagues...as long as there is even ONE

> dietitian who will accept this pay rate, it will persist.

>

> Don't get mad at the company who posted it, point your fingers at

> the colleagues who keep the bar low for all of us.

>

> I walked off my last job for someone else because I was being asked

> to do way too much and when I could not meet the expectations was

> scapegoated. I realized the only way they'd " get it " was to try to

> fill the position. After three turnovers in 2/3 the time I lasted

> there, they finally caved and created FIVE positions out of the one

> they fully expected me to fill.

>

> There simply was no supply of dietitians who could meet the

> unreasonable demands. Some employers have to be given more concrete

> lessons than others.

>

> Monika M. Woolsey, MS, RD

> http://www.incyst.com

>

April 2, 2011

I would again suggest not stating this with such certainty. I don't think we can

say that no other professional in any other health profession has been asked to

volunteer their time.

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Author, Consultant

Mercer Island, WA

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> You are correct re: professional volunteerism; the difference is the

expectation that RDs volunteer their expertise; for other professions the

volunteerism is voluntary.

> In addition, salaries for RDs doesn't seem to allow us the luxury of

volunteering many hours if we are to make a living. Raphaela Rozanski, MS, RD,

LDN

>

> > >

> > > > I was talking about this with a colleague today. Didn't the

> > > childhood

> > > > obesity guidelines or statement from ADA include that RDs should

> > > " volunteer "

> > > > our time to schools to help combat childhood obesity?

> > > >

> > > > Why isn't the American Medical Association asking MDs to volunteer

> > > too?

> > > >

> > > > Digna

> > > >

> > >

April 2, 2011

I would again suggest not stating this with such certainty. I don't think we can

say that no other professional in any other health profession has been asked to

volunteer their time.

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Author, Consultant

Mercer Island, WA

Sent from my iPad

> You are correct re: professional volunteerism; the difference is the

expectation that RDs volunteer their expertise; for other professions the

volunteerism is voluntary.

> In addition, salaries for RDs doesn't seem to allow us the luxury of

volunteering many hours if we are to make a living. Raphaela Rozanski, MS, RD,

LDN

>

> > >

> > > > I was talking about this with a colleague today. Didn't the

> > > childhood

> > > > obesity guidelines or statement from ADA include that RDs should

> > > " volunteer "

> > > > our time to schools to help combat childhood obesity?

> > > >

> > > > Why isn't the American Medical Association asking MDs to volunteer

> > > too?

> > > >

> > > > Digna

> > > >

> > >

April 3, 2011

I don't recall our professional organization (I'm assuming you are

talking about ADA) stating that other professions are never asked to

contribute volunteer hours? Could you please point me to that statement?

The other health professions contribute many, many volunteer hours. It

is oversimplifying the reasons the individuals volunteer when we say

" Well, RDs don't make enough money so we shouldn't be asked to

volunteer. " People give of their time for a wide variety of reasons.

Much volunteer work supports others profits. I find it interesting

that you make that statement after discussing school wellness. I'm not

seeing many public school districts that are profitable enterprises.

When we decide to give of our time, it is our responsibility, not our

professional organization's, to decide if the cause is one we should

support.

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Author, Consultant

pcharney@...

" You don't drown by falling in the water; you drown by staying there. "

- Edwin Louis Cole

> my certainty relies on our professional organization's statements

> and urgings that RDs incorporate volunteering as part of their role.

> I know my Pastor is a volunteer in the local school's Healthy

> Committee. School employees are all paid. I am not insulted ever

> when I am asked to volunteer alongside all other unpaid volunteers.

> I am insulted when my volunteering supports others' profits.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > I was talking about this with a colleague today. Didn't the

> > > > > childhood

> > > > > > obesity guidelines or statement from ADA include that RDs

> should

> > > > > " volunteer "

> > > > > > our time to schools to help combat childhood obesity?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why isn't the American Medical Association asking MDs to

> volunteer

> > > > > too?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Digna

> > > > > >

> > > > >

April 3, 2011