Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is referring to licensure. We have licensure in OH, and, every year, a bill is introduced to weaken it so much that it would become meaningless. The power behind the bill is the health food and supplement industries. Ro From: Weaver Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:54 PM To: rd-usa Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is referring to licensure. We have licensure in OH, and, every year, a bill is introduced to weaken it so much that it would become meaningless. The power behind the bill is the health food and supplement industries. Ro From: Weaver Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:54 PM To: rd-usa Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Kind-of funny. This article doesn't mention a nutritionist cannot write the exams for CNSD, CDE, etc. Which are certifications from well known and highly regarded organizations. But an RD can! Obviously, our educational background carries much more weight! I would love to see a nutirtionist write an Rx for a tube feeding, teach carb. counting to an insulin requiring diabetic, or manage a patient on dialysis!! Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA To: rd-usa Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 4:54 PM  http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Kind-of funny. This article doesn't mention a nutritionist cannot write the exams for CNSD, CDE, etc. Which are certifications from well known and highly regarded organizations. But an RD can! Obviously, our educational background carries much more weight! I would love to see a nutirtionist write an Rx for a tube feeding, teach carb. counting to an insulin requiring diabetic, or manage a patient on dialysis!! Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA To: rd-usa Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 4:54 PM  http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Well spoken, . Does the nutritionist always offer evidence-based information? Do they have to receive 75 hours of continuing education every 5 years to maintain registration and 20 hours to maintain licensure? No. When I used to work in public health, I was called a " nutritionist " but I made it clear that I was a registered dietitian. The girl in the office next to me was a nutritionist, but in no way was she a dietitian! We have all worked very hard to earn our credentials! That should not be discredited. Not sure if I want to laugh or scream at this ridiculousness!! RD, LD ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 8:43:49 PM Subject: Re: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA Kind-of funny. This article doesn't mention a nutritionist cannot write the exams for CNSD, CDE, etc. Which are certifications from well known and highly regarded organizations. But an RD can! Obviously, our educational background carries much more weight! I would love to see a nutirtionist write an Rx for a tube feeding, teach carb. counting to an insulin requiring diabetic, or manage a patient on dialysis!! Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA To: rd-usa Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 4:54 PM http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Well spoken, . Does the nutritionist always offer evidence-based information? Do they have to receive 75 hours of continuing education every 5 years to maintain registration and 20 hours to maintain licensure? No. When I used to work in public health, I was called a " nutritionist " but I made it clear that I was a registered dietitian. The girl in the office next to me was a nutritionist, but in no way was she a dietitian! We have all worked very hard to earn our credentials! That should not be discredited. Not sure if I want to laugh or scream at this ridiculousness!! RD, LD ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 8:43:49 PM Subject: Re: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA Kind-of funny. This article doesn't mention a nutritionist cannot write the exams for CNSD, CDE, etc. Which are certifications from well known and highly regarded organizations. But an RD can! Obviously, our educational background carries much more weight! I would love to see a nutirtionist write an Rx for a tube feeding, teach carb. counting to an insulin requiring diabetic, or manage a patient on dialysis!! Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA To: rd-usa Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 4:54 PM http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I suspect the Alliance for Natural Health deliberately represents dietitians in the most stereotypical way they can to " prove " their point. Seeing the industry sponsors on the ADA website certainly weakens what many of us believe. The link to the ANH website was posted on the DIFM DPG's website about 10 days ago and provoked quite an exchange. Someone suggested that our registration should be as RDN to clarify that we are the qualified nutritionists. The link was also emailed to several staff members at ADA and CDR. The licensure statutes for dietitians and RD nutritionists vary greatly from state to state. In my own state RD's are licensed as nutritionists and being an RD is a requirement for licensure. This came about after a legislator pointed out that if we licensed RDs as dietitians then the unqualified would simply call themselves nutritionists making the law quite weak. In practice after 20+ years of licensure for RDs I don't believe that ANY RD has been disciplined by the licensure board. The Board DOES handle MANY complaints about the unlicensed practice of nutrition though. It's important to give teeth to licensure laws by addressing unlicensed practice when the legislation is first introduced. Of note the ANH has merged with the American Association for Health Freedom. This latter group has been sponsoring legislation in many states that would exempt non-licensed individuals from action by licensure boards as long as they weren't practicing a limited list of practices that they claim only the licensed can do. Since the scope of RD practices (and those of many other health professions too) wasn't included on this limited list this legislation would gut the licensure statutues that do provide an avenue of recourse if a person is harmed by a non- licensed person. Promoters speak of the problem as " scope creep " . They believe that they should be able to practice " a little " in the area that only licensed professionals can as long as they don't intentionally cause harm. They just need to present their qualifications in writing to the person they are treating and make it clear that they aren't licensed. etc etc. In the last 2 legislative sessions in my state this kind of legislation has gone down each time due to lobbying by a strong network of health professionals. Pat Bollinger, MS RD Member Montana Board of Medical Examiners (this board licenses 7 professions) > > This is referring to licensure. > We have licensure in OH, and, every year, a bill is introduced to > weaken it so much > that it would become meaningless. The power behind the bill is the > health food and > supplement industries. > Ro > > From: Weaver > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:54 PM > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly > Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA > > http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I suspect the Alliance for Natural Health deliberately represents dietitians in the most stereotypical way they can to " prove " their point. Seeing the industry sponsors on the ADA website certainly weakens what many of us believe. The link to the ANH website was posted on the DIFM DPG's website about 10 days ago and provoked quite an exchange. Someone suggested that our registration should be as RDN to clarify that we are the qualified nutritionists. The link was also emailed to several staff members at ADA and CDR. The licensure statutes for dietitians and RD nutritionists vary greatly from state to state. In my own state RD's are licensed as nutritionists and being an RD is a requirement for licensure. This came about after a legislator pointed out that if we licensed RDs as dietitians then the unqualified would simply call themselves nutritionists making the law quite weak. In practice after 20+ years of licensure for RDs I don't believe that ANY RD has been disciplined by the licensure board. The Board DOES handle MANY complaints about the unlicensed practice of nutrition though. It's important to give teeth to licensure laws by addressing unlicensed practice when the legislation is first introduced. Of note the ANH has merged with the American Association for Health Freedom. This latter group has been sponsoring legislation in many states that would exempt non-licensed individuals from action by licensure boards as long as they weren't practicing a limited list of practices that they claim only the licensed can do. Since the scope of RD practices (and those of many other health professions too) wasn't included on this limited list this legislation would gut the licensure statutues that do provide an avenue of recourse if a person is harmed by a non- licensed person. Promoters speak of the problem as " scope creep " . They believe that they should be able to practice " a little " in the area that only licensed professionals can as long as they don't intentionally cause harm. They just need to present their qualifications in writing to the person they are treating and make it clear that they aren't licensed. etc etc. In the last 2 legislative sessions in my state this kind of legislation has gone down each time due to lobbying by a strong network of health professionals. Pat Bollinger, MS RD Member Montana Board of Medical Examiners (this board licenses 7 professions) > > This is referring to licensure. > We have licensure in OH, and, every year, a bill is introduced to > weaken it so much > that it would become meaningless. The power behind the bill is the > health food and > supplement industries. > Ro > > From: Weaver > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:54 PM > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly > Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA > > http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 The ADA is starting to explore changing the name so that " nutritionist " would be included. There were some examples and opportunities to provide input at the FNCE in Boston. Holly  ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: rd-usa Cc: Ro Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 9:07:02 PM Subject: Re: The American Dietetic Association’s Monopoly Continues to Grow | Welcome to the Alliance for Natural Health - USA  I suspect the Alliance for Natural Health deliberately represents dietitians in the most stereotypical way they can to " prove " their point. Seeing the industry sponsors on the ADA website certainly weakens what many of us believe. The link to the ANH website was posted on the DIFM DPG's website about 10 days ago and provoked quite an exchange. Someone suggested that our registration should be as RDN to clarify that we are the qualified nutritionists. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Seams that the war of nutritionist vs dietitian is all over the world. In my country nutritionists have more credentials than dietitians so it is a bit different from there, but the type of war is the same. Spain solved this issue in a simple way, basically they created the term nutritionist-dietitian and all have to have the proper credentials. " Dietitians, in general, are experts in what passes for nutrition science today, much of it often woefully out of date " <-- this is completely ridiculous... Best regards Cátia Borges > > http://www.anh-usa.org/american-dietetic-association-monopoly/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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