Re: More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

[Guest guest]

:-) Made me laugh. I love promoting white sugar products (yeah right) -

even 33+ years ago, when I sat for my RD exam, I don't remember being asked

about how to make a lemon Meringue pie. Guess those tests have changed.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:43 PM, ne <

fivestar@...> wrote:

> Whew! - ne

>

>

> More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

>

> by Dr. Jonny ·

>

> The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

> make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

> their union.

>

> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

> Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

> behavior in America.

>

> They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

> supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

> low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

> surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

> from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

> their collective head.

>

> One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

> they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

> the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

> a professional credential.

>

> Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

> recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

>

> Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

> stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

> pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active form”, she once told me.

> “The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

> pie.”

>

> Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

> responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

>

> Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

> nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

> in world religions at Harvard.

>

> This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

> scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

> dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

> legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

> with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

>

> The fine for practicing “dietetics” (a vague and incompletely defined

> term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

>

> They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

> they’re trying to do it in California.

>

> Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

> only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

> licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

> behind the mask of trying to “protect” the public from unscrupulous

> practitioners and unqualified “experts”, something no one- let alone

> time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

>

> After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

> vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

> practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

>

> Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

> limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

>

> This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

> keep anyone who is not in their “union” from practicing nutrition. This

> includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

> nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

> a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

> Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

> nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

> would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

>

> If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

> nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

>

> One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

> nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

> is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

> thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

> practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

> their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

> since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

>

> She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

> requirements” (an RD- aka “union card”).

>

> Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

> are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

> likes of Dr. Lipski.

>

> I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

> nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

>

> Dietitians

>

> *have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

> endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

> meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

> bovine growth hormone.

>

> *are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

> circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

> the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

> Nutritionists

>

> *recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

> the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

> properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

>

> *utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

> supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

> Examination Preparation

>

> An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

> Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

> certification boards to evaluate skills.

>

> Registered Dietitian Certification

>

> Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

>

> Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

> operation.

> Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

> Inventory control and buying practices

> Labor management, time management, etc.

> Economics

> Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

>

> Nutritionist Certification

>

> Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

>

> Human anatomy and physiology

> Disease states

> Metabolic pathways

> Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

> nutritional status

> Drug and nutrient interactions

> Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

>

> What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

> about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

> official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

> know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

> with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

> in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

> anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

> a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..”.

>

> When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

> Dietetic Association….”, I run the other way.

>

> I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

>

> But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

> absurd.

>

> It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

> with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

> membership.

>

> Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

>

> Once again.

>

> http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

1, New York does not have licensing for RD's.

2. So how much more of his 'report' is inaccurate.

To: " Nutrition_Reports " <Nutrition_Reports >

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:43 PM

Subject: More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

Whew! - ne

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

    Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

    Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

    Inventory control and buying practices

    Labor management, time management, etc.

    Economics

    Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

    Human anatomy and physiology

    Disease states

    Metabolic pathways

    Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

    Drug and nutrient interactions

    Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with his opinion in respect to how much of the exam is not

about

nutrition & MNT and we should have more of that. I understand testing food

service concepts & kitchen planning. But do I really need to be tested on WHY

cake & bread turns brown in the oven? 

My personal disagreements with his opinon piece:

We're not an union, we're a professional organization promoting our expertise

as

nutritionists.

Licensure law in NV (before the state senate right now) doesn't stop people from

being nutritionists, just defines the requirements to be a licensed dietitian

so the public knows the educational background when they seek nutrition advice.

Promoting white sugar? Mcs?  Ick. However, if I'm working with someone

who

insists on eating like that, I can make suggestions towards healthier options. 

Disallow supplements? The issue in the past is the inappropriate SALES of

supplements leading to megadosing, or fraudulent health claims about said

supplements.  I often suggest a standard MVI as an " umbrella insurance policy "

because no one has a perfect diet. 

ADA is a powerful lobby akin to NRA?  OMG where does he get that idea? We've

barely got the money to support healthy initiatives and push to maintain WIC &

other food programs.

Last question - why does he have such venomous hate for ADA & RDs?

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

Whew! - ne

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

    Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

    Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

    Inventory control and buying practices

    Labor management, time management, etc.

    Economics

    Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

    Human anatomy and physiology

    Disease states

    Metabolic pathways

    Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

    Drug and nutrient interactions

    Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with his opinion in respect to how much of the exam is not

about

nutrition & MNT and we should have more of that. I understand testing food

service concepts & kitchen planning. But do I really need to be tested on WHY

cake & bread turns brown in the oven? 

My personal disagreements with his opinon piece:

We're not an union, we're a professional organization promoting our expertise

as

nutritionists.

Licensure law in NV (before the state senate right now) doesn't stop people from

being nutritionists, just defines the requirements to be a licensed dietitian

so the public knows the educational background when they seek nutrition advice.

Promoting white sugar? Mcs?  Ick. However, if I'm working with someone

who

insists on eating like that, I can make suggestions towards healthier options. 

Disallow supplements? The issue in the past is the inappropriate SALES of

supplements leading to megadosing, or fraudulent health claims about said

supplements.  I often suggest a standard MVI as an " umbrella insurance policy "

because no one has a perfect diet. 

ADA is a powerful lobby akin to NRA?  OMG where does he get that idea? We've

barely got the money to support healthy initiatives and push to maintain WIC &

other food programs.

Last question - why does he have such venomous hate for ADA & RDs?

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

Whew! - ne

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

    Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

    Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

    Inventory control and buying practices

    Labor management, time management, etc.

    Economics

    Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

    Human anatomy and physiology

    Disease states

    Metabolic pathways

    Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

    Drug and nutrient interactions

    Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

[Guest guest]

Why he seems to have such a venomous hate against ADA/RDs may have to do with

the CNS behind his name -he's not just a health store clerk but is a

professional with a degree, and he may get generalized disrespect when lumped

with 'nutritionists' like health product clerks. The concern about the licensing

process is for the tendency to monopolize to RD's and exclude other degree

programs. Michigan licensing of RD's is going on turtle speed but I believe his

CNS won't count in Michigan when the policies are finalized.

A system with types of licenses might help, some division/tier system that

might have licenses for the RD level with nutrition and food service training

and experience as well as the clinicalwhich would be required for some types of

jobs and a separate nutrition educator/counselor license might exist that would

allow the nutrition counselor to function in other areas than those requiring

quantity food service knowledge.

He went to school too and didn't have to use a bunch of credits on food service

and management. My electives included genetics, psychology and botany courses

and a linguistic course just for fun.

I also learned that I don't have the patience to make a good batch of fudge (bad

grade that day) and that how much liquid is drained from the can of tuna will

greatly effect the taste and mouth feel of the finished product.

I would like to believe that there is room in the world for us all but it is

more difficult some days than others.

http://www.americancollegeofnutrition.org/Default.aspx?tabid=83 - the mission

and goals of the American College of Nutrition seem worthy of support.

Vajda, R.D.

www.GingerJens.com

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 4:34:50 PM

Subject: Re: More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

I have to agree with his opinion in respect to how much of the exam is not about

nutrition & MNT and we should have more of that. I understand testing food

service concepts & kitchen planning. But do I really need to be tested on WHY

cake & bread turns brown in the oven?

My personal disagreements with his opinon piece:

We're not an union, we're a professional organization promoting our expertise as

nutritionists.

Licensure law in NV (before the state senate right now) doesn't stop people from

being nutritionists, just defines the requirements to be a licensed dietitian

so the public knows the educational background when they seek nutrition advice.

Promoting white sugar? Mcs? Ick. However, if I'm working with someone who

insists on eating like that, I can make suggestions towards healthier options.

Disallow supplements? The issue in the past is the inappropriate SALES of

supplements leading to megadosing, or fraudulent health claims about said

supplements. I often suggest a standard MVI as an " umbrella insurance policy "

because no one has a perfect diet.

ADA is a powerful lobby akin to NRA? OMG where does he get that idea? We've

barely got the money to support healthy initiatives and push to maintain WIC &

other food programs.

Last question - why does he have such venomous hate for ADA & RDs?

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

Whew! - ne

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

Inventory control and buying practices

Labor management, time management, etc.

Economics

Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

Human anatomy and physiology

Disease states

Metabolic pathways

Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

Drug and nutrient interactions

Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

[Guest guest]

Your comments are kind. How often are RDs grouped in with diet aides? If RDs

post management skills and nutrition knowledge on job bulletins, it isn't

unusual to get listings from health food clerks.

Companies may, also, certify nutritionists within their own programs.

these are the very reasons RDs fought for licensing. Point taken on your comment

re: educators. CDEs needn't be RDs and frequently are RNs. I can't understand

the anger toward ADA as RDs needn't be members; CDR is the credentialing org for

registration; licensing, MDs, RDs, OTRs, PTs, MDs, etc is through states. Many

RDs may feel ADA is not a strong enough advocate for RD/LDNs.

Raphaela Rozanski, MS,RD, LDN

>

> Why he seems to have such a venomous hate against ADA/RDs may have to do with

> the CNS behind his name -he's not just a health store clerk but is a

> professional with a degree, and he may get generalized disrespect when lumped

> with 'nutritionists' like health product clerks. The concern about the

licensing

> process is for the tendency to monopolize to RD's and exclude other degree

> programs. Michigan licensing of RD's is going on turtle speed but I believe

his

> CNS won't count in Michigan when the policies are finalized.

>

> A system with types of licenses might help, some division/tier system that

> might have licenses for the RD level with nutrition and food service training

> and experience as well as the clinicalwhich would be required for some types

of

> jobs and a separate nutrition educator/counselor license might exist that

would

> allow the nutrition counselor to function in other areas than those requiring

> quantity food service knowledge.

>

> He went to school too and didn't have to use a bunch of credits on food

service

> and management. My electives included genetics, psychology and botany courses

> and a linguistic course just for fun.

> I also learned that I don't have the patience to make a good batch of fudge

(bad

> grade that day) and that how much liquid is drained from the can of tuna will

> greatly effect the taste and mouth feel of the finished product.

>

> I would like to believe that there is room in the world for us all but it is

> more difficult some days than others.

>

> http://www.americancollegeofnutrition.org/Default.aspx?tabid=83 - the mission

> and goals of the American College of Nutrition seem worthy of support.

>

> Vajda, R.D.

> www.GingerJens.com

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: rd-usa

> Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 4:34:50 PM

> Subject: Re: More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

>

>

> I have to agree with his opinion in respect to how much of the exam is not

about

>

> nutrition & MNT and we should have more of that. I understand testing food

> service concepts & kitchen planning. But do I really need to be tested on WHY

> cake & bread turns brown in the oven?

>

> My personal disagreements with his opinon piece:

>

> We're not an union, we're a professional organization promoting our expertise

as

>

> nutritionists.

>

> Licensure law in NV (before the state senate right now) doesn't stop people

from

>

> being nutritionists, just defines the requirements to be a licensed dietitian

>

> so the public knows the educational background when they seek nutrition

advice.

>

> Promoting white sugar? Mcs? Ick. However, if I'm working with someone

who

>

> insists on eating like that, I can make suggestions towards healthier options.

> Disallow supplements? The issue in the past is the inappropriate SALES of

> supplements leading to megadosing, or fraudulent health claims about said

> supplements. I often suggest a standard MVI as an " umbrella insurance policy "

> because no one has a perfect diet.

>

> ADA is a powerful lobby akin to NRA? OMG where does he get that idea? We've

> barely got the money to support healthy initiatives and push to maintain WIC &

> other food programs.

>

> Last question - why does he have such venomous hate for ADA & RDs?

>

> Holly

> ----------

> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

>

> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

> 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

>

> More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

>

> Whew! - ne

>

> More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

>

> by Dr. Jonny ·

>

> The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

> make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

> their union.

>

> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

> Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

> behavior in America.

>

> They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

> supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

> low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

> surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

> from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

> their collective head.

>

> One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

> they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

> the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

> a professional credential.

>

> Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

> recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

>

> Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

> stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

> pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

> “The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

> pie.â€

>

> Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

> responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

>

> Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

> nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

> in world religions at Harvard.

>

> This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

> scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

> dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

> legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

> with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

>

> The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

> term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

>

> They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

> they’re trying to do it in California.

>

> Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

> only to the NRA †" attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

> licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

> behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

> practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

> time-pressed legislatures †" would object to.

>

> After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

> vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

> practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

>

> Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

> limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

>

> This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

> keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

> includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

> nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

> a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

> Mark Houston, MD†" a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

> nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program†"

> would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

>

> If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

> nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

>

> One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

> nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

> is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

> thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

> practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

> their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

> since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

>

> She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

> requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

>

> Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

> are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

> likes of Dr. Lipski.

>

> I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

> nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

>

> Dietitians

>

> *have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

> endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

> meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

> bovine growth hormone.

>

> *are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

> circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

> the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

> Nutritionists

>

> *recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

> the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

> properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

>

> *utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

> supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

> Examination Preparation

>

> An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

> Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

> certification boards to evaluate skills.

>

> Registered Dietitian Certification

>

> Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

>

> Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

> operation.

> Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

> Inventory control and buying practices

> Labor management, time management, etc.

> Economics

> Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

>

> Nutritionist Certification

>

> Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

>

> Human anatomy and physiology

> Disease states

> Metabolic pathways

> Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

> nutritional status

> Drug and nutrient interactions

> Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

>

> What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

> about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

> official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

> know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

> with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

> in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

> anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

> a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

>

> When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

> Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

>

> I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

>

> But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

> absurd.

>

> It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

> with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

> membership.

>

> Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

>

> Once again.

>

> http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Holly,

I respect your opinion as well as that of all RDs that have to sit for the

registration test or have ever sat for the test. However, in MY world, it is

indeed very important to know the reasons why a cake does not turn out, bread

browns in the oven, or yeast rises, or you sprinkle a bit of salt on onions when

sautéing. That’s called COOKING, which is an art and a science, and the

foundation of our profession. People eat food, not formulas and pills. Food

has to be more than edible, it has to be delicious and appealing, and it’s our

jobs to make sure we continue to produce food that is not only nutritious, but

also delicious and people want to eat it instead of the fast foods and junk. All

the MNT, technically correct nutritional assessments, and scientifically based

recommendations won’t allow to a hill of beans if your patients don’t eat.

So yes, we should care about each about every question asked on the registration

test, as well as in maintaining competency in the specific area of the

profession we practice. Are you suggesting that the tests be made specific for

the area of practice chosen? I believe that’s what the specialty credentials

are for.

Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of hl

brewer

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:35 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

I have to agree with his opinion in respect to how much of the exam is not about

nutrition & MNT and we should have more of that. I understand testing food

service concepts & kitchen planning. But do I really need to be tested on WHY

cake & bread turns brown in the oven?

My personal disagreements with his opinon piece:

We're not an union, we're a professional organization promoting our expertise as

nutritionists.

Licensure law in NV (before the state senate right now) doesn't stop people from

being nutritionists, just defines the requirements to be a licensed dietitian

so the public knows the educational background when they seek nutrition advice.

Promoting white sugar? Mcs? Ick. However, if I'm working with someone who

insists on eating like that, I can make suggestions towards healthier options.

Disallow supplements? The issue in the past is the inappropriate SALES of

supplements leading to megadosing, or fraudulent health claims about said

supplements. I often suggest a standard MVI as an " umbrella insurance policy "

because no one has a perfect diet.

ADA is a powerful lobby akin to NRA? OMG where does he get that idea? We've

barely got the money to support healthy initiatives and push to maintain WIC &

other food programs.

Last question - why does he have such venomous hate for ADA & RDs?

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

Whew! - ne

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

Inventory control and buying practices

Labor management, time management, etc.

Economics

Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

Human anatomy and physiology

Disease states

Metabolic pathways

Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

Drug and nutrient interactions

Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

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[Guest guest]

Well-said, Digna.

Diane Preves, M.S., R.D.

www.newlifeforhealth.com

More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

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More Claptrap from the American Dietetic Association

by Dr. Jonny ·

The American Dietetic Association is at it again, working tirelessly to

make sure that the only nutrition information you get is from members of

their union.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: I consider the American

Dietetic Association one of the most destructive influences on eating

behavior in America.

They never met a government policy they didn’t like. They believe

supplements aren’t important. They’ve continue to promote high-carb

low-fat diets. They believe there’s no such thing as a bad food, no

surprise since a huge percentage of their corporate sponsorship comes

from industry and Big Food. They’ve never had an original thought in

their collective head.

One small story about the ADA that may help shed light on just what

they’re all about. The American Dietetic Association once tried to stop

the late nutritionist Shari Lieberman, PhD, CNS, RD from using her RD as

a professional credential.

Why, you ask? Because she broke from the party line and actually

recommended vitamin and mineral supplements.

Lieberman sued the ADA, won full rights to her degree, then promptly

stopped using it. “The CNS exam asks you what enzyme activates the

pancreatic enzyme trypsinogen into its active formâ€, she once told me.

“The RD exam asks you questions like “how do you make a lemon merenguie

pie.â€

Remember, folks, next time you’re in a hospital, these are the people

responsible for the jello, mashed potatoes and apple juice.

Asking the American Dietetic Association to be the final say in

nutrition education is like asking the Taliban to teach a college course

in world religions at Harvard.

This time the ADA is up to its old tricks again, working behind the

scenes to try to insure that anyone who is not an RD will be unable to

dispense advice about nutrition. In California, the bill eliminates from

legitimate nutrition counseling practice all CNs, CNSs, CCNs, and those

with graduate degrees including PhD’s.

The fine for practicing “dietetics†(a vague and incompletely defined

term) without an RD is $1000.00 and/or six months in jail.

They’ve done this before, notably in Wisconsin and New York, and now

they’re trying to do it in California.

Here’s the drill. Lobbyists for the ADA- with lobbying firepower second

only to the NRA — attempt to get legislation passed to create stringent

licensing for all nutrition professionals. Sounds good, right? They hide

behind the mask of trying to “protect†the public from unscrupulous

practitioners and unqualified “expertsâ€, something no one- let alone

time-pressed legislatures – would object to.

After all, who would object to licensing professionals? Who wouldn’t

vote for a bill to protect consumers and make sure that people

practicing in the health field knew what they’re talking about?

Problem is, it’s all a crock. The only purpose of the legislation is to

limit the practice of nutrition to RDs only.

This is union protectionism at its worst. The ADA essentially fights to

keep anyone who is not in their “union†from practicing nutrition. This

includes- hold on to your hats- MDs, Chiropractors, Clinical

nutritionists, licensed acupuncturists, CNS’s, CCNs and even folks with

a masters degree in nutrition. Under the ADA- sponsored bills, my friend

Mark Houston, MD– a professor of medicine who also holds a masters in

nutrition from the rigorous Bridgeport University nutrition program—

would not be able to dispense nutritional advice professionally.

If you think these bills are about protecting the public, I’ve got a

nice bridge near Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

One recent horror story: Liz Lipsky, PhD, one of the foremost

nutritionists in the country, was denied licensure in North Carolina and

is now appealing through the courts. She sent in her CV, doctoral

thesis, doctoral course materials, master’s thesis, CCN scope of

practice, descriptions of every course she had taken that might meet

their minimum qualifications, lists of all conferences she has attended

since 1979, papers she’s published, books she’s written, etc.

She was still denied licensure because she didn’t meet their “minimal

requirements†(an RD- aka “union cardâ€).

Yet the ADA would have you think that these politically motivated bills

are about protecting the public against advice they might get from the

likes of Dr. Lipski.

I’m frequently asked about the differences between dietitians and

nutritionists, so here’s the executive summary:

Dietitians

*have a policy that there is no such thing as a good or bad food. They

endorse white refined sugar, egg beaters (fake eggs), Ensure, Mc’s

meals, and chemical and bioengineered additives including MSG and rBGH

bovine growth hormone.

*are extremely cautious in recommending supplementation, and in the

circumstances when their policy does allow for this, it is limited to

the RDA (recommended daily allowance suggested by the US govt.)

Nutritionists

*recognize the positive and negative effects of different foods, such as

the type of fat content, amount of processing/refinement, and chemical

properties and additives, including as they relate to clinical conditions.

*utilize current bio-nutrient research to recommend diets and/or

supplements appropriate for individual’s specific condition.

Examination Preparation

An excellent way to illustrate the difference between Dietitians and

Nutritionists is by the test question categories used by their

certification boards to evaluate skills.

Registered Dietitian Certification

Majority of questions (60%) are on non-science topics, such as:

Purchase of kitchen equipment and its placement for efficient

operation.

Institutional cooking and food preparation techniques

Inventory control and buying practices

Labor management, time management, etc.

Economics

Government programs such as food stamps, surplus, etc

Nutritionist Certification

Majority of questions (over 90%) are on nutrition science topics such as:

Human anatomy and physiology

Disease states

Metabolic pathways

Interpretation of blood and urine analysis as it pertains to

nutritional status

Drug and nutrient interactions

Vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and dietary and herbal therapies

What you also need to know is that virtually all the information you get

about nutrition from popular magazines can be linked back to some

official party line from the American Dietetic Association. Trust me, I

know. Having written for popular magazines for almost 20 years and dealt

with editors and administrators from almost every well-known publication

in America, I can tell you that most are almost afraid to publish

anything about nutrition that does not contain the phrase, “According to

a spokesperson from the American Dietetic Association..â€.

When I hear the phrase, “According to a spokesperson from the American

Dietetic Association….â€, I run the other way.

I’m all for licensing and for professional standards.

But the idea that only RDs meet the requirements for licensing is simply

absurd.

It’s a political maneuver by the ADA which has absolutely nothing to do

with protecting the public, and everything to do with protecting its

membership.

Shame on you, American Dietetic Association.

Once again.

http://jonnybowdenblog.com/american-dietetic-association/