Re: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

[Guest guest]

It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

research that supports it, just testimonials.

Ro

From: Ortiz

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

To: RD-USA

Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

never heard of it - any opinions?

TIA

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

student<

*Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

*

*at the years people have behind them but also the

*

*quality of the years ahead of them.*

[Guest guest]

It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

research that supports it, just testimonials.

Ro

From: Ortiz

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

To: RD-USA

Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

never heard of it - any opinions?

TIA

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

student<

*Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

*

*at the years people have behind them but also the

*

*quality of the years ahead of them.*

[Guest guest]

Very limited; no wheat (so if someone with " IBD "  happens to have celiac, it

" works " ). No sugar (except for what is found in some fruit and in the homemade

yogurt).

I have a handout created for a possible research study that I will try to upload

to the group.

Only very subjective results. Probably coincidental as so many possible

offending foods are removed from the diet (better to get specific results from

LEAP).

Holly----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

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To: RD-USA <rd-usa >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 5:21:49 AM

Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

 

A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

never heard of it - any opinions?

TIA

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

student<

*Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

*

*at the years people have behind them but also the

*

*quality of the years ahead of them.*

[Guest guest]

Very limited; no wheat (so if someone with " IBD "  happens to have celiac, it

" works " ). No sugar (except for what is found in some fruit and in the homemade

yogurt).

I have a handout created for a possible research study that I will try to upload

to the group.

Only very subjective results. Probably coincidental as so many possible

offending foods are removed from the diet (better to get specific results from

LEAP).

Holly----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

________________________________

To: RD-USA <rd-usa >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 5:21:49 AM

Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

 

A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

never heard of it - any opinions?

TIA

--

Ortiz, MS, RD

*The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

student<

*Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

*

*at the years people have behind them but also the

*

*quality of the years ahead of them.*

[Guest guest]

Thanks and especially your download Holly - really appreciate it!!!

>

>

> It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

> ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

> research that supports it, just testimonials.

> Ro

>

> From: Ortiz

> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

> To: RD-USA

> Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

>

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

>

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks and especially your download Holly - really appreciate it!!!

>

>

> It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

> ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

> research that supports it, just testimonials.

> Ro

>

> From: Ortiz

> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

> To: RD-USA

> Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

>

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

>

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does look like a higgley piggley mixture of restrictions that could help the

person whose sensitivities just happened to match. LEAP testing would be better

for accuracy. The exclusion of all processed foods due to the exclusion of many

standard ingredients is probably the main benefit to this odd mixture of

restrictions. They aren't the least allergy prone foods; the carb foods left in

don't make a lot of sense compared to the carb foods that were excluded. It

worked for her child and probably would help people but - very difficult -

worse than the restrictions I used through trial & error and massive amounts of

label reading during the worst of my migraine phase.

The " Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type " diet books are a little odd but after my

initial rxn of 'whacky', I found that my blood type lists did match a bit with

foods I already knew I was sensitive too (eggplant, dairy). We are made of

chemicals and food is chemicals and so after thinking about it I realized it

made sense that the different blood types would react differently. Cow's milk

protein antigen is the same as the B blood type antigen - Everyone except B

blood types are going to have some protein coagulation with dairy products - ie

congestion is most obvious symptom. Within an hour of eating dairy products I am

congested. B blood type is very prevalent in India where dairy products are a

major food group.

I didn't know there was a file section to this group- cool.

R Vajda, R.D.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:08:13 AM

Subject: Re: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

Thanks and especially your download Holly - really appreciate it!!!

>

>

> It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

> ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

> research that supports it, just testimonials.

> Ro

>

> From: Ortiz

> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

> To: RD-USA

> Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

>

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

>

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does look like a higgley piggley mixture of restrictions that could help the

person whose sensitivities just happened to match. LEAP testing would be better

for accuracy. The exclusion of all processed foods due to the exclusion of many

standard ingredients is probably the main benefit to this odd mixture of

restrictions. They aren't the least allergy prone foods; the carb foods left in

don't make a lot of sense compared to the carb foods that were excluded. It

worked for her child and probably would help people but - very difficult -

worse than the restrictions I used through trial & error and massive amounts of

label reading during the worst of my migraine phase.

The " Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type " diet books are a little odd but after my

initial rxn of 'whacky', I found that my blood type lists did match a bit with

foods I already knew I was sensitive too (eggplant, dairy). We are made of

chemicals and food is chemicals and so after thinking about it I realized it

made sense that the different blood types would react differently. Cow's milk

protein antigen is the same as the B blood type antigen - Everyone except B

blood types are going to have some protein coagulation with dairy products - ie

congestion is most obvious symptom. Within an hour of eating dairy products I am

congested. B blood type is very prevalent in India where dairy products are a

major food group.

I didn't know there was a file section to this group- cool.

R Vajda, R.D.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:08:13 AM

Subject: Re: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

Thanks and especially your download Holly - really appreciate it!!!

>

>

> It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

> ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

> research that supports it, just testimonials.

> Ro

>

> From: Ortiz

> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

> To: RD-USA

> Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

>

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

>

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does look like a higgley piggley mixture of restrictions that could help the

person whose sensitivities just happened to match. LEAP testing would be better

for accuracy. The exclusion of all processed foods due to the exclusion of many

standard ingredients is probably the main benefit to this odd mixture of

restrictions. They aren't the least allergy prone foods; the carb foods left in

don't make a lot of sense compared to the carb foods that were excluded. It

worked for her child and probably would help people but - very difficult -

worse than the restrictions I used through trial & error and massive amounts of

label reading during the worst of my migraine phase.

The " Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type " diet books are a little odd but after my

initial rxn of 'whacky', I found that my blood type lists did match a bit with

foods I already knew I was sensitive too (eggplant, dairy). We are made of

chemicals and food is chemicals and so after thinking about it I realized it

made sense that the different blood types would react differently. Cow's milk

protein antigen is the same as the B blood type antigen - Everyone except B

blood types are going to have some protein coagulation with dairy products - ie

congestion is most obvious symptom. Within an hour of eating dairy products I am

congested. B blood type is very prevalent in India where dairy products are a

major food group.

I didn't know there was a file section to this group- cool.

R Vajda, R.D.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:08:13 AM

Subject: Re: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

Thanks and especially your download Holly - really appreciate it!!!

>

>

> It is a diet restricting specific carbohydrate foods—often the same

> ones restricted in a gluten-free diet—recommended for autism. Again, no

> research that supports it, just testimonials.

> Ro

>

> From: Ortiz

> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:21 AM

> To: RD-USA

> Subject: Elaine Gottschall and her Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

>

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

>

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think much of Elaine's explanation of the SCD and why it works (no

research and quite illogical, IMHO), and yet I've seen quite a few people on the

diet who report huge improvements in colitis/crohn's symptoms. Many have tested

negative for Celiac. Essentially since they're on it, and determined to stay on

it, their docs have referred them to me to try to make it as balanced as

possible, and I do my best to help within those parameters.

The strange thing is that many of those folks return to eating grains and report

a relapse of symptoms. Some were incapacitated with pain prior to the diet.

Granted, I have never gone out of my way to recommend the diet to anyone, and

yet I can't help wondering why so many people do well with it. I would probably

recommend giving it a try if every other avenue was not helpful. I believe

Crohn's/colitis foundation is in the process of researching it and I look

forward to their thoughts.

Close cousin of SCD is GAPS, which I see as even more illogical, since they

recommend it for kids--oy!

Cheryl , MPH, RD, LD

Whole Health

3345 Duke St

andria, VA 22314

www.harriswholehealth.com

fax:

Follow me on Twitter @cherylharrisrd

>

> A friend asked me about this diet: Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I have

> never heard of it - any opinions?

> TIA

>

> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Groupon: $10 for a Three-Month Skype Premium Subscription (Up to $26.97

> value) 3/9 <http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=16225> Made my own " funny but

> real " movie: Me interviewing a " potential " Dietetic

> student<

>

> *Healthy Diet at any Age: We are NOT just looking

> *

>

> *at the years people have behind them but also the

> *

>

> *quality of the years ahead of them.*

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where did you find credible research on GAPS? I checked a few months ago on

Pubmed and there wasn't even a single article. I'd love to see what's out

there! At a quick glance, there's nothing on the website, either.

thanks so much!

Best,

Cheryl

www.harriswholehealth.com

>

>

>

> > I don't think much of Elaine's explanation of the SCD and why it works (no

research and quite illogical, IMHO), and yet I've seen quite a few people on the

diet who report huge improvements in colitis/crohn's symptoms. Many have tested

negative for Celiac. Essentially since they're on it, and determined to stay on

it, their docs have referred them to me to try to make it as balanced as

possible, and I do my best to help within those parameters.

>

> > The strange thing is that many of those folks return to eating grains and

report a relapse of symptoms. Some were incapacitated with pain prior to the

diet.

>

> >

>

> > Granted, I have never gone out of my way to recommend the diet to anyone,

and yet I can't help wondering why so many people do well with it. I would

probably recommend giving it a try if every other avenue was not helpful. I

believe Crohn's/colitis foundation is in the process of researching it and I

look forward to their thoughts.

>

> >

>

> > Close cousin of SCD is GAPS, which I see as even more illogical, since they

recommend it for kids--oy!

>

> >

>

> > Cheryl , MPH, RD, LD

>

> > Whole Health

>

> > 3345 Duke St

>

> > andria, VA 22314

>

> > www.harriswholehealth.com

>

> >

>

> > fax:

>

> > Follow me on Twitter @cherylharrisrd

>

> >

>

> >

>

>

>

>