Embarrassing Problem

[Guest guest]

Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder. My

nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at my

mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't do

anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home which

was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

[Guest guest]

I had the strangest thing happen to me this week. A friend came over for lunch

and after she left I was in the kitchen washing the dishes.

I felt the need to go to the bathroom, but wanted to finish the dishes first.

When suddenly, I started to urinate down my leg. I just couldn't stop it. I

called for my husband who cleaned up while I went in to shower. This has never

happened to me before. My doctor checked, and I do not have a bladder

infection. Could this be part of PLS? Has anyone else ever had an experience

like this? I am just grateful that I was at home when this happened.

Bonnie G - Phoenix

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie:

I know exactly what your went thru. It started to happen to me, I went

to my urologist and my bladder was functioning normal, but was spastic

due to my PLS. He put me on Ditropan and the problem went away.

It can be sooo embarrassing. I was at my daughters, waited to long,

went into the bathroom, could not get " the old drawers down " , and

tinkled all over the floor, and wet my clothes. Ended up wearing my

son-in-laws robe, and my daughter ended up doing my laundry. Boy was my

face red.

Good Luck!

Rita

Luv & Hugs!

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

of them.

Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

*************************************

[Guest guest]

I think a big part of the problem is that we can't " run " to the bathroom.

It just takes longer than the time we have to spare when the need arises. I

really don't want to add medications to my life unless absolutely necessary

so I just visit the little girls' room periodically, rather than waiting

until it becomes an urgent matter.

Dolores

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder.

My

> nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

> still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

> dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at

my

> mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

> with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't

do

> anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home

which

> was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

> those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

> prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think a big part of the problem is that we can't " run " to the bathroom.

It just takes longer than the time we have to spare when the need arises. I

really don't want to add medications to my life unless absolutely necessary

so I just visit the little girls' room periodically, rather than waiting

until it becomes an urgent matter.

Dolores

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder.

My

> nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

> still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

> dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at

my

> mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

> with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't

do

> anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home

which

> was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

> those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

> prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! We have so many issues........I believe that's the beauty of this site.

We probably discuss issues here that we dare not discuss with but the closest of

family and friends. I have to admit I have, as a grown man, wet my pants

because I couldn't get to the bathroom or roadside rest stop in time. For my

PLS male counterparts........about two years ago I resorted to traveling with a

small, portable urinal. I've been driving a van since 1998 and used to get out

of the van and re-enter into the rear compartment via the side door to relieve

myself. I was diagnosed with PLS in Jan 1998 and bought the van primarily

because it was much easier to enter than a car. Well, as my PLS progressed, I

found it more and more difficult to get into the rear of the van, especially

when I had the " urge " to urinate. So, as many have said here (and others who

sit and quietly read), we can not " run " to a bathroom, nor can we waste precious

minutes trying to get into the rear of our vehicles. I too, know every rest

stop between home and my most often traveled routes. However, I have resigned

myself to a life that consist of a loss of speed and an increase in urgency,

complemented with " men's protective shields and a portable potty " . I'm now one

of the " older fellas " you may see standing alongside his vehicle, alongside the

highway finding " relief in the open air " . I try to stay respectable though and

lean into the van while using the portable urinal. I know it's often

frustrating, but we have to adjust and overcome. I hope I'm not offending

anyone with my input; it's not my intent.

We have so many issues to discuss; some may appear and feel very embarrassing.

But, we can be thankful for this site and the opportunity to share with each

other and spare ourselves (and our caregivers) the thought that we are all alone

with our condition(s).

Do what's necessary. Wear liners, as necessary; " tinkle " before getting in

your vehicle; drink less when traveling (don't get dehydrated though); don't

ignore your body's signals and put a portable urinal in your vehicle. I'm only

48 yrs old, and I was amazed at how many other gents I know who travel with one.

It's like the credit card commercial...... " Don't leave home without it " . Most

of these fellas are much older than me. The wisdom they all share is don't fight

it; it doesn't make you less of a man (or woman); it's part of life. Accept it

and move on. My mom always said, " Once a man, twice a child " . It's beginning

to make more sense now......in a funny kind of way.

One parting thought.......keep a sense of humor and try to keep that smile.

There are others worse off than you or me. Have your pity party when you need

to do so, but don't stay too long.

(DE)

P.S. Hey Ralph Boss in Maine! You hang in there my friend. Regardless of the

change in your diagnosis, you're still my inspiration and always in our prayers.

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder.

My

> nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

> still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

> dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at

my

> mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

> with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't

do

> anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home

which

> was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

> those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

> prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! We have so many issues........I believe that's the beauty of this site.

We probably discuss issues here that we dare not discuss with but the closest of

family and friends. I have to admit I have, as a grown man, wet my pants

because I couldn't get to the bathroom or roadside rest stop in time. For my

PLS male counterparts........about two years ago I resorted to traveling with a

small, portable urinal. I've been driving a van since 1998 and used to get out

of the van and re-enter into the rear compartment via the side door to relieve

myself. I was diagnosed with PLS in Jan 1998 and bought the van primarily

because it was much easier to enter than a car. Well, as my PLS progressed, I

found it more and more difficult to get into the rear of the van, especially

when I had the " urge " to urinate. So, as many have said here (and others who

sit and quietly read), we can not " run " to a bathroom, nor can we waste precious

minutes trying to get into the rear of our vehicles. I too, know every rest

stop between home and my most often traveled routes. However, I have resigned

myself to a life that consist of a loss of speed and an increase in urgency,

complemented with " men's protective shields and a portable potty " . I'm now one

of the " older fellas " you may see standing alongside his vehicle, alongside the

highway finding " relief in the open air " . I try to stay respectable though and

lean into the van while using the portable urinal. I know it's often

frustrating, but we have to adjust and overcome. I hope I'm not offending

anyone with my input; it's not my intent.

We have so many issues to discuss; some may appear and feel very embarrassing.

But, we can be thankful for this site and the opportunity to share with each

other and spare ourselves (and our caregivers) the thought that we are all alone

with our condition(s).

Do what's necessary. Wear liners, as necessary; " tinkle " before getting in

your vehicle; drink less when traveling (don't get dehydrated though); don't

ignore your body's signals and put a portable urinal in your vehicle. I'm only

48 yrs old, and I was amazed at how many other gents I know who travel with one.

It's like the credit card commercial...... " Don't leave home without it " . Most

of these fellas are much older than me. The wisdom they all share is don't fight

it; it doesn't make you less of a man (or woman); it's part of life. Accept it

and move on. My mom always said, " Once a man, twice a child " . It's beginning

to make more sense now......in a funny kind of way.

One parting thought.......keep a sense of humor and try to keep that smile.

There are others worse off than you or me. Have your pity party when you need

to do so, but don't stay too long.

(DE)

P.S. Hey Ralph Boss in Maine! You hang in there my friend. Regardless of the

change in your diagnosis, you're still my inspiration and always in our prayers.

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder.

My

> nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

> still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

> dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at

my

> mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

> with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't

do

> anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home

which

> was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

> those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

> prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW! We have so many issues........I believe that's the beauty of this site.

We probably discuss issues here that we dare not discuss with but the closest of

family and friends. I have to admit I have, as a grown man, wet my pants

because I couldn't get to the bathroom or roadside rest stop in time. For my

PLS male counterparts........about two years ago I resorted to traveling with a

small, portable urinal. I've been driving a van since 1998 and used to get out

of the van and re-enter into the rear compartment via the side door to relieve

myself. I was diagnosed with PLS in Jan 1998 and bought the van primarily

because it was much easier to enter than a car. Well, as my PLS progressed, I

found it more and more difficult to get into the rear of the van, especially

when I had the " urge " to urinate. So, as many have said here (and others who

sit and quietly read), we can not " run " to a bathroom, nor can we waste precious

minutes trying to get into the rear of our vehicles. I too, know every rest

stop between home and my most often traveled routes. However, I have resigned

myself to a life that consist of a loss of speed and an increase in urgency,

complemented with " men's protective shields and a portable potty " . I'm now one

of the " older fellas " you may see standing alongside his vehicle, alongside the

highway finding " relief in the open air " . I try to stay respectable though and

lean into the van while using the portable urinal. I know it's often

frustrating, but we have to adjust and overcome. I hope I'm not offending

anyone with my input; it's not my intent.

We have so many issues to discuss; some may appear and feel very embarrassing.

But, we can be thankful for this site and the opportunity to share with each

other and spare ourselves (and our caregivers) the thought that we are all alone

with our condition(s).

Do what's necessary. Wear liners, as necessary; " tinkle " before getting in

your vehicle; drink less when traveling (don't get dehydrated though); don't

ignore your body's signals and put a portable urinal in your vehicle. I'm only

48 yrs old, and I was amazed at how many other gents I know who travel with one.

It's like the credit card commercial...... " Don't leave home without it " . Most

of these fellas are much older than me. The wisdom they all share is don't fight

it; it doesn't make you less of a man (or woman); it's part of life. Accept it

and move on. My mom always said, " Once a man, twice a child " . It's beginning

to make more sense now......in a funny kind of way.

One parting thought.......keep a sense of humor and try to keep that smile.

There are others worse off than you or me. Have your pity party when you need

to do so, but don't stay too long.

(DE)

P.S. Hey Ralph Boss in Maine! You hang in there my friend. Regardless of the

change in your diagnosis, you're still my inspiration and always in our prayers.

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Bonnie, you not alone it has happen to me too. I have a spastic bladder.

My

> nero put me on Ditrol LA and the problem has improved over the years. I

> still have to go when I first feel the urgent if I wait to long I get the

> dribbles. On the onset of PLS had I had a hard time holding it. I was at

my

> mother in laws and we were ready to leave (she lives in a condo up stairs

> with 14 steps) by the time I hit the bottom step I had wet myself couldn't

do

> anything else but get in the car and sat on a magazine all the way home

which

> was only a 10 minute drive and thank God it was night time!!! We all have

> those embarrassing stories. Get yourself to your doctor I'm sure his will

> prescribe something for you..............Flora Brand

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

that was very inspireing!!!!! I am glad to see a man respond to this

issue. Was beginning to think only my husband had this same problem. So am

glad that you were able to share. Thanks so much Shirley (michigan)

[Guest guest]

that was very inspireing!!!!! I am glad to see a man respond to this

issue. Was beginning to think only my husband had this same problem. So am

glad that you were able to share. Thanks so much Shirley (michigan)

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

I haven't had that particular problem but when I lift something with my

arms/stomach muscles I wet myself. I used to have a lot of problems when I

golfed. I'd start out ok and then gradually it would get to where I would wet

myself each time I swung the club. It didn't matter if I'd just gone to the

ladies room, I'd still wet myself. It made golfing impossible. It is kind of

like I can't control those muscles when I'm using others? Really weird.

I drink a lot of water and try to hold it longer and longer to get my bladder to

be used to holding more. That seems to help. But again, I'm ok until I move

around. Then I really have to concentrate on holding.

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

Embarrassing Problem

I had the strangest thing happen to me this week. A friend came over for

lunch and after she left I was in the kitchen washing the dishes.

I felt the need to go to the bathroom, but wanted to finish the dishes first.

When suddenly, I started to urinate down my leg. I just couldn't stop it. I

called for my husband who cleaned up while I went in to shower. This has never

happened to me before. My doctor checked, and I do not have a bladder

infection. Could this be part of PLS? Has anyone else ever had an experience

like this? I am just grateful that I was at home when this happened.

Bonnie G - Phoenix

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

I haven't had that particular problem but when I lift something with my

arms/stomach muscles I wet myself. I used to have a lot of problems when I

golfed. I'd start out ok and then gradually it would get to where I would wet

myself each time I swung the club. It didn't matter if I'd just gone to the

ladies room, I'd still wet myself. It made golfing impossible. It is kind of

like I can't control those muscles when I'm using others? Really weird.

I drink a lot of water and try to hold it longer and longer to get my bladder to

be used to holding more. That seems to help. But again, I'm ok until I move

around. Then I really have to concentrate on holding.

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

Embarrassing Problem

I had the strangest thing happen to me this week. A friend came over for

lunch and after she left I was in the kitchen washing the dishes.

I felt the need to go to the bathroom, but wanted to finish the dishes first.

When suddenly, I started to urinate down my leg. I just couldn't stop it. I

called for my husband who cleaned up while I went in to shower. This has never

happened to me before. My doctor checked, and I do not have a bladder

infection. Could this be part of PLS? Has anyone else ever had an experience

like this? I am just grateful that I was at home when this happened.

Bonnie G - Phoenix

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I hope you are planning on coming to the California Connection. It would be

nice to see you again.

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I hope you are planning on coming to the California Connection. It would be

nice to see you again.

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave:

We all have our stories, and I have another. Last Tuesday I was showing

an empty apartment to a new tenant, and sure enough I was showing her

how the tilt in windows work. The release was stuck, so I have it a

good tug and down I went. Cracked my head (again) on the cement floor,

saw stars (they were pretty and colorful). I survived, but I know I had

a concussion. Good thing I am well padded (like I told Dolores) if I

was thin I would probably be in a full body cast by now.

Have put a call into my neurologist, ads my legs are getting weaker, and

this is a new phase for me, so I will work with him to see whats best

for me. We gotta keep plugging along.

Rita

Luv & Hugs!

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

of them.

Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

*************************************

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave:

We all have our stories, and I have another. Last Tuesday I was showing

an empty apartment to a new tenant, and sure enough I was showing her

how the tilt in windows work. The release was stuck, so I have it a

good tug and down I went. Cracked my head (again) on the cement floor,

saw stars (they were pretty and colorful). I survived, but I know I had

a concussion. Good thing I am well padded (like I told Dolores) if I

was thin I would probably be in a full body cast by now.

Have put a call into my neurologist, ads my legs are getting weaker, and

this is a new phase for me, so I will work with him to see whats best

for me. We gotta keep plugging along.

Rita

Luv & Hugs!

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

of them.

Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

*************************************

[Guest guest]

I've had my times too but Rita you better start using a walker soon before

something really bad happens. . I had many bad falls, split eyebrow with 6

stitches, lumps like goose eggs then the 3 broken hips which put me in this

powered wheelchair for the rest of my life. Take care.

Re: Embarrassing Problem

> Hi Dave:

>

> We all have our stories, and I have another. Last Tuesday I was showing

> an empty apartment to a new tenant, and sure enough I was showing her

> how the tilt in windows work. The release was stuck, so I have it a

> good tug and down I went. Cracked my head (again) on the cement floor,

> saw stars (they were pretty and colorful). I survived, but I know I had

> a concussion. Good thing I am well padded (like I told Dolores) if I

> was thin I would probably be in a full body cast by now.

> Have put a call into my neurologist, ads my legs are getting weaker, and

> this is a new phase for me, so I will work with him to see whats best

> for me. We gotta keep plugging along.

>

> Rita

>

> Luv & Hugs!

>

>

>

>

> *************************************

> Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

> of them.

>

>

> Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

> *************************************

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I have had a walker for 4 years an and it never leaves my side.

I had a very traumatic experience that happened to me back in the

spring. It really effected me physically, and I have never been able to

bounce back. It just goes to show you how much the emotions can effect

the body. My balance has really been off more since that incident and I

can't seem to recover. I go to my neurologist on Monday and he wants to

see how much I have weakened since April, and we shall see what we can

come up with. He has increased my Baclofan for the next few days, to

see if that will help my spastic legs. Myself I think it's just my legs

have weakened and I am hoping that maye some physical therapy might help

somewhat, but if it doesn't so be it, I will deal with it. I have been

so lucky to have been given so many good year having PLS, this could

have happened years ago, but am still hanging in there.

Your a sweet lady and have been good friend thanks loads.

Rita

Luv & Hugs!

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

of them.

Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

*************************************

[Guest guest]

, I have had a walker for 4 years an and it never leaves my side.

I had a very traumatic experience that happened to me back in the

spring. It really effected me physically, and I have never been able to

bounce back. It just goes to show you how much the emotions can effect

the body. My balance has really been off more since that incident and I

can't seem to recover. I go to my neurologist on Monday and he wants to

see how much I have weakened since April, and we shall see what we can

come up with. He has increased my Baclofan for the next few days, to

see if that will help my spastic legs. Myself I think it's just my legs

have weakened and I am hoping that maye some physical therapy might help

somewhat, but if it doesn't so be it, I will deal with it. I have been

so lucky to have been given so many good year having PLS, this could

have happened years ago, but am still hanging in there.

Your a sweet lady and have been good friend thanks loads.

Rita

Luv & Hugs!

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

of them.

Lord Keep Your Arm Around My Shoulder And Your Hand Over My Mouth

*************************************

[Guest guest]

Mike, and all. Let's all go back 50 or 60 years to the farm or rural

area. No indoor plumbing. Long way to out house. Solution indoor white potty

with lid. Empty every morning, rinse and bring back in. I can remember well.

Why not now for those with this problem??

Byron and in FL

[Guest guest]

Mike, and all. Let's all go back 50 or 60 years to the farm or rural

area. No indoor plumbing. Long way to out house. Solution indoor white potty

with lid. Empty every morning, rinse and bring back in. I can remember well.

Why not now for those with this problem??

Byron and in FL

[Guest guest]

You wrote: " Then I really have to concentrate on holding. "

Is that the golf club or the muscles surrounding the ?.

Sorry, couldn't resist. I have a similar problem at night. Hurrying to the

bathroom in the dark is a special treat I am certain is shared with others

in this group. I would put in a night light, but that would interfere with

sleep and wouldn't get me there any faster. It's the speed of movement to

the " room " that must exceed the speed of movement of the " water. " Sometimes

I beat the water, sometimes it leaks on me. Like you, I am drinking more

fluids at work trying to train my bladder to hold on longer. It seems to be

working and the bathrooms are close, but need a key to open the door. And

there is always a coworker or a patient who wants to talk. They have just

recently begun to understand that when I am headed that way, I am in no

mood to talk and will see them later. Haven't embarrassed myself at work

yet, but have been very close.

And Dave, carrying a urinal at work would be a little strange. But, I work

in a strange place. I do limit my fluid intake on long trips and recently

had a 10 hour drive and had no problems.

Mike Gray.

At 08:51 AM 8/2/02 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Bonnie,

>I haven't had that particular problem but when I lift something with my

>arms/stomach muscles I wet myself. I used to have a lot of problems when

>I golfed. I'd start out ok and then gradually it would get to where I

>would wet myself each time I swung the club. It didn't matter if I'd just

>gone to the ladies room, I'd still wet myself. It made golfing

>impossible. It is kind of like I can't control those muscles when I'm

>using others? Really weird.

>I drink a lot of water and try to hold it longer and longer to get my

>bladder to be used to holding more. That seems to help. But again, I'm

>ok until I move around. Then I really have to concentrate on holding.

> Thomson

>Solana Beach, Ca

>Visit www.als-pls.org

>and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

>

> Embarrassing Problem

>

>

> I had the strangest thing happen to me this week. A friend came over

> for lunch and after she left I was in the kitchen washing the dishes.

> I felt the need to go to the bathroom, but wanted to finish the dishes

> first. When suddenly, I started to urinate down my leg. I just

> couldn't stop it. I called for my husband who cleaned up while I went

> in to shower. This has never happened to me before. My doctor checked,

> and I do not have a bladder infection. Could this be part of PLS? Has

> anyone else ever had an experience like this? I am just grateful that I

> was at home when this happened.

>

> Bonnie G - Phoenix

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

A couple of years ago I found something which works really well as a

portable urinal, which is exactly what it was designed for. I carry one

with me in the console of my car now, always use one at night so I don't

have to try to walk to the bathroom if woken by the need to urinate and

take one with me whenever I go anywhere where I don't know how easy it

will be to find a toilet.

It is called a Uribag and is a very strong plastic cylinder, only about

two inches long and an inch in diameter - I can easily carry one in my

shirt pocket. People can see there is something in my pocket but unless

they knew about them would have no idea what it was. At one end it has

a full diameter lift up cap. Fixed to the inside of the cylinder is a

very strong rubber bag which is just pushed up inside the cylinder and

stays there when not in use.

When you need to use it you just lift the cap up and push the rubber bag

down through the other end with your finger or thumb, giving you a bag

with a very useful capacity - not sure what it is but probably about a

pint. Put it this way - even when I have drunk a lot of fluid before

going to bed and am woken several times by the need to urinate it is

only the third time when I start to worry about filling it.

As my previous email said I usually don't have a need to carry one

around with me any more because my antidepressants alleviate the urinary

urgency, but they are a great little device!

Over here I think they retail for about US$20 and I am still using the

first one I bought about 2 or 3 years ago, although usually only now to

prevent me having to go to the bathroom during the night. I now only

have to swing my legs out of bed, get the Uribag out of the bedside

drawers, sit on the edge of the bed and Bob's your uncle!! It is also

relatively easy to use in the car without making any mess and without

people in other cars wondering what the heck you are doing or thinking

you are a pervert! :-)

Mike wrote:

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> And Dave, carrying a urinal at work would be a little strange. But, I work

> in a strange place. I do limit my fluid intake on long trips and recently

> had a 10 hour drive and had no problems.

>

> Mike Gray.

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[Guest guest]

I don't have a night light but do have a touch activated lamp within

reach. For those late night trips this gets the light on quick and avoids

falls (at least those due to late night tripping). Incidentally, Mark and

I leave for Bethesda tomorrow- if anyone wants to contact us we'll be at

the Navy Lodge. Lavon

[Guest guest]

Many people may find this difficult to understand in these times, but I did

not have indoor plumbing until I went to college and then got married. Mom

and Dad had to wait until 4 of the 6 kids were out of the house before they

could afford to build a new house on the same property. That was 24 years

ago. I was 30 and expecting my 3rd child when my now deceased brother and I

put in the new carpeting. It's amazing when I think how difficult it must

have been for Mom to do laundry and wash us kids for those years. During

the winter, we had a " pot " just inside the back door in an entry way. It

was emptied daily. I am thankful that was NOT one of my chores. I did have

to pump the water and put it in the large copper pot on the space heater in

the kitchen, though. I guess, of all the modern conveniences we have, the

one I would miss most is running water in the house.

Yes, the area was rural, but many people around us had running water and

indoor plumbing. We were just po folks. And this was just 30 years ago.

Mike Gray

At 12:22 AM 8/4/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Mike, and all. Let's all go back 50 or 60 years to the farm or rural

>area. No indoor plumbing. Long way to out house. Solution indoor white potty

>with lid. Empty every morning, rinse and bring back in. I can remember well.

>Why not now for those with this problem??

>

>Byron and in FL

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