RE: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

June 2, 2011

Interesting she is a member of Weston Price...

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> http://www.jennette-turner.com/publications.cfm?id=17

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June 2, 2011

yep, this is the late onset anorexia...middle age women declare vegeterianism or

in this case, veganism.

and they all hope to look like Freston. Good luck with that. Our GI system

is designed for omnivor. Veganism is not beceserally healthy.

I have seen too many ppl on vegan diet with Cholesterol @400.

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

A dietitian, not the food police.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

" Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that

take your breath away. " - Carlin

" People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary

Road)

> To: rd-usa

> From: nrord1@...

> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:03:20 -0400

> Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

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> Interesting she is a member of Weston Price...

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> > http://www.jennette-turner.com/publications.cfm?id=17

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> --

> Ortiz, MS, RD

> *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> Join me on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/TheFrugalDietitian?ref=ts>

>

> Polo Shirt with your logo: $2.95 shipped Great Father’s Day

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June 2, 2011

Really??? I have been a vegetarian (lacto-ovo) for five years and am in good

health. I know many healthy vegans. There are so many falsehoods in that

article I don't even know where to start! Cholesterol is an essential

nutrient?? I don't have time to cover everything that is wrong with that

article, but did you all even read it?

>

> yep, this is the late onset anorexia...middle age women declare

> vegeterianism or in this case, veganism.

> and they all hope to look like Freston. Good luck with that. Our GI

> system is designed for omnivor. Veganism is not beceserally healthy.

> I have seen too many ppl on vegan diet with Cholesterol @400.

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

> A dietitian, not the food police.

>

> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

> that take your breath away. " - Carlin

> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

> (Revolutionary Road)

>

> > To: rd-usa

> > From: nrord1@...

> > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:03:20 -0400

> > Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

> >

> > Interesting she is a member of Weston Price...

> >

> > >

> > > http://www.jennette-turner.com/publications.cfm?id=17

> > >

> >

> > --

> > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > Join me on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/TheFrugalDietitian?ref=ts>

> >

> > Polo Shirt with your logo: $2.95 shipped Great Father’s Day

> > Gift<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=20750>

> > * " Nutrition is a Science, Not an Opinion Survey " *

> >

June 2, 2011

Shelby,

I have to agree with you! I am not a vegetarian, but I used to get some

referrals for people when I was a generalist dietitian for vegan counseling. We

even had our own printed handout on how you can be healthy and be vegetarian

and/or vegan, and this article definitely has many inaccuracies. It does take

some work, possible B12 supplementation, and cosistency in certain food choices,

but you can eat vegan and be healthy.

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> > > Join me on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/TheFrugalDietitian?ref=ts>

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June 2, 2011

I completely agree that there is " so many falsehoods in that article I don't

even know where to start "

Cholesterol is needed for hormones synthesis in the body.

When I did my BSc in nutrition, many moons ago, one of my preceptors did a

research among vegans and found them to have high cholesterol.

When you cut out all tye Cholesterol in the diet, the liver will shoot in. YOu

are ovo-lacto vegetarian, so you eat some cholesterol (eggs and dairy) Not all

vegans are. Vegetarian are different, and if you are (which I assume you are)

eating properly, you could be very healthy. It takes a lot of discipline to

become vegetarian, not all can do it. I could never do it. I love meat too much

and I know ppl who are vegetarians, ovo-lacto, that live on Chinese take-out

(not the steam versions) and other junks or high fat like ice cream. SO there is

the smart way of eating and that applies to all of us, carnivores, omnivores and

vegetarians/vegans.

But - what I was trying to emphasis is the fact that many women choose to

become vegetarians as means to lose wt and sometimes it is a beginning sign of

anorexia (especially with teens). And anorexia is no longer the disease of the

teens/young women, but also of middle age women (the average Oprah audience) and

now, that we all live longer, we start to see it among 65+ yo women.

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

A dietitian, not the food police.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

" Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that

take your breath away. " - Carlin

" People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary

Road)

> To: rd-usa

> From: shelby.martin@...

> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:12:13 -0500

> Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

>

> Really??? I have been a vegetarian (lacto-ovo) for five years and am in good

> health. I know many healthy vegans. There are so many falsehoods in that

> article I don't even know where to start! Cholesterol is an essential

> nutrient?? I don't have time to cover everything that is wrong with that

> article, but did you all even read it?

>

> >

> > yep, this is the late onset anorexia...middle age women declare

> > vegeterianism or in this case, veganism.

> > and they all hope to look like Freston. Good luck with that. Our GI

> > system is designed for omnivor. Veganism is not beceserally healthy.

> > I have seen too many ppl on vegan diet with Cholesterol @400.

> >

> > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

> > A dietitian, not the food police.

> >

> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

> >

> > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

> > that take your breath away. " - Carlin

> > " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

> > (Revolutionary Road)

> >

> > > To: rd-usa

> > > From: nrord1@...

> > > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:03:20 -0400

> > > Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

> > >

> > > Interesting she is a member of Weston Price...

> > >

> > > >

> > > > http://www.jennette-turner.com/publications.cfm?id=17

> > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > > Join me on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/TheFrugalDietitian?ref=ts>

> > >

> > > Polo Shirt with your logo: $2.95 shipped Great Father’s Day

> > > Gift<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=20750>

> > > * " Nutrition is a Science, Not an Opinion Survey " *

> > >

June 2, 2011

Same here. I've been ovo-lacto-vegetarian for about 15 years and vegan the last

5 years. My cholesterol remained high (230) when I was ovo-lacto and when I

became vegan it dropped to 150.

Being Seventh Day Adventist, I know a lot of healthy vegans and vegetarians, and

our group has been well studied by the Adventist Health Study, with grant from

the NIH. Loma 's Seventh Day Adventists more particularly have been

featured in the Blue Zone documentary as one of the areas in the world where

people live longer and better. Bellow, you can see some data from the Adventist

Health Study which looked at the lifestyle of 96,000 members of the church

living in the US and Canada:

Lifestyle and Disease

Our data shows a progressive weight increase from a total vegetarian diet

toward a non-vegetarian diet. For instance, 55-year-old male and female vegans

weigh about 30 pounds less than non-vegetarians of similar height.

Additionally, levels of cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure, and the

metabolic syndrome all had the same trend â€“ the closer you are to being a

vegetarian, the lower the health risk in these areas. In the case of type 2

diabetes, prevalence in vegans and lacto-ovo vegetarians was half that of

non-vegetarians, even after controlling for socioeconomic and lifestyle

factors.

Although our data does not prove causation, it does suggest that possibility,

thus, it is interesting to examine the characteristics of vegans/vegetarians.

Compared to non-vegetarians, vegans/vegetarians:

- Watched less television

- Slept more hours per night

- Consumed more fruits and vegetables

- Consumed less saturated fat

- Typically ate foods with a low glycemic index, such as beans, legumes and nuts

Maggie Carneiro MPH, RD, CDE

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To: rd-usa

Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 9:12:13 AM

Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

Really??? I have been a vegetarian (lacto-ovo) for five years and am in good

health. I know many healthy vegans. There are so many falsehoods in that

article I don't even know where to start! Cholesterol is an essential

nutrient?? I don't have time to cover everything that is wrong with that

article, but did you all even read it?

>

> yep, this is the late onset anorexia...middle age women declare

> vegeterianism or in this case, veganism.

> and they all hope to look like Freston. Good luck with that. Our GI

> system is designed for omnivor. Veganism is not beceserally healthy.

> I have seen too many ppl on vegan diet with Cholesterol @400.

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

> A dietitian, not the food police.

>

> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments

> that take your breath away. " - Carlin

> " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying "

> (Revolutionary Road)

>

> > To: rd-usa

> > From: nrord1@...

> > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:03:20 -0400

> > Subject: Re: Great response to Oprah's vegan challenge

> >

> > Interesting she is a member of Weston Price...

> >

> > >

> > > http://www.jennette-turner.com/publications.cfm?id=17

> > >

> >

> > --

> > Ortiz, MS, RD

> > *The FRUGAL Dietitian* <http://www.thefrugaldietitian.com>

> > Check out my blog: mixture of deals and nutrition

> > Join me on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/TheFrugalDietitian?ref=ts>

> >

> > Polo Shirt with your logo: $2.95 shipped Great Fatherâ€™s Day

> > Gift<http://thefrugaldietitian.com/?p=20750>

> > * " Nutrition is a Science, Not an Opinion Survey " *

> >

June 2, 2011