Re: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have discriminated against me during my career

[Guest guest]

If you still believe that losing weight is just calories burned verses calories

consumed you are in the wrong line of work. Yes, I have issues with size zero

vegan dietitians when their adam's apple show and I can count their ribs across

the room in the v-neck of their blouse. I am fat but that has more to do with

the side affects of two rounds of lipid lowering drugs, menopause and

hypothyroidism. Gee, an hour a day of vigorous exercise is all it takes. Lets

see I have job, then I come home to my second job cooking and running a

household then there is my third job home PT for my husband. Life is not so

simple for many of us. I live in an area where a bag of chips cost $8.00 and

soda is $8-$12 a 12 pack. The last tomato I picked up cost $7.00, that I paid

for. Junk food is not high on my to buy list. As for vegans and vegetarians I

have major issues in pushing this life style on children. Our Safety Officer

decided to go vegetarian I told him if he lost another 5 pounds he needs to come

see me. He feels weighing a 130 lb. at 5' 10 " is great. I don't believe in low

fat or no fat fake food, or foods with sugar (high Fructose Corn syrup) added. I

have never met a chip I did not like, I don't eat fruit due to a fructose

malabsorption and I don't limit real fats. Does this make me a bad dietitian the

food police think so, then again I seen what they eat and they think I eat bad.

Jackie Chase RD

Dillingham AK

> Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated against

as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal

burned vs. consumed.

>

>

> >

> >

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=13348\

969

> >

> > --

> > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > Herman Melville

> >

> > http://www.carolscasey.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you still believe that losing weight is just calories burned verses calories

consumed you are in the wrong line of work. Yes, I have issues with size zero

vegan dietitians when their adam's apple show and I can count their ribs across

the room in the v-neck of their blouse. I am fat but that has more to do with

the side affects of two rounds of lipid lowering drugs, menopause and

hypothyroidism. Gee, an hour a day of vigorous exercise is all it takes. Lets

see I have job, then I come home to my second job cooking and running a

household then there is my third job home PT for my husband. Life is not so

simple for many of us. I live in an area where a bag of chips cost $8.00 and

soda is $8-$12 a 12 pack. The last tomato I picked up cost $7.00, that I paid

for. Junk food is not high on my to buy list. As for vegans and vegetarians I

have major issues in pushing this life style on children. Our Safety Officer

decided to go vegetarian I told him if he lost another 5 pounds he needs to come

see me. He feels weighing a 130 lb. at 5' 10 " is great. I don't believe in low

fat or no fat fake food, or foods with sugar (high Fructose Corn syrup) added. I

have never met a chip I did not like, I don't eat fruit due to a fructose

malabsorption and I don't limit real fats. Does this make me a bad dietitian the

food police think so, then again I seen what they eat and they think I eat bad.

Jackie Chase RD

Dillingham AK

> Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated against

as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal

burned vs. consumed.

>

>

> >

> >

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=13348\

969

> >

> > --

> > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > Herman Melville

> >

> > http://www.carolscasey.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you still believe that losing weight is just calories burned verses calories

consumed you are in the wrong line of work. Yes, I have issues with size zero

vegan dietitians when their adam's apple show and I can count their ribs across

the room in the v-neck of their blouse. I am fat but that has more to do with

the side affects of two rounds of lipid lowering drugs, menopause and

hypothyroidism. Gee, an hour a day of vigorous exercise is all it takes. Lets

see I have job, then I come home to my second job cooking and running a

household then there is my third job home PT for my husband. Life is not so

simple for many of us. I live in an area where a bag of chips cost $8.00 and

soda is $8-$12 a 12 pack. The last tomato I picked up cost $7.00, that I paid

for. Junk food is not high on my to buy list. As for vegans and vegetarians I

have major issues in pushing this life style on children. Our Safety Officer

decided to go vegetarian I told him if he lost another 5 pounds he needs to come

see me. He feels weighing a 130 lb. at 5' 10 " is great. I don't believe in low

fat or no fat fake food, or foods with sugar (high Fructose Corn syrup) added. I

have never met a chip I did not like, I don't eat fruit due to a fructose

malabsorption and I don't limit real fats. Does this make me a bad dietitian the

food police think so, then again I seen what they eat and they think I eat bad.

Jackie Chase RD

Dillingham AK

> Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated against

as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal

burned vs. consumed.

>

>

> >

> >

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=13348\

969

> >

> > --

> > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > Herman Melville

> >

> > http://www.carolscasey.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just stated a

generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you please

explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

clarification as to the source of this statement.

Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

discriminated against me during my career

Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated

against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack

of kcal burned vs. consumed.

>

>

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

3348969

>

> --

> " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> Herman Melville

>

> http://www.carolscasey.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <dignacassens@...

> wrote:

>

>

> , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just stated a

> generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you please

> explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> clarification as to the source of this statement.

>

> Digna

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> discriminated against me during my career

>

> Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

> interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated

> against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack

> of kcal burned vs. consumed.

>

>

> >

> >

>

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> 3348969

> >

> > --

> > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > Herman Melville

> >

> > http://www.carolscasey.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

said:

" The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal burned

vs. consumed. "

Your comment here is something I have lived with all of my professional

life. I am far from lazy. How dare you make this critical, judgemental

statement. If this is your stance, this is just another reason why

dietitians like me have never felt as if we belong in the group of

dietitian, even though we are very proficient and compassionate in our

profession. It is sad, , that if you mean what you have said here, you

should really try sitting on your posterior instead of wearing it for a hat.

Respectfully,

Carol Casey, DTR, RD, CDN, LDN, FSM

Clinical Nutrition Manager

1988 Graduate of Florida International University

President of Sutdent Dietetic Association 1987-1988

> Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

> rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

> Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

>

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <

> dignacassens@...

> > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just stated

> a

> > generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you

> please

> > explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> > clarification as to the source of this statement.

> >

> > Digna

> >

> > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

> Of

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> > To: rd-usa

> > Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > discriminated against me during my career

> >

> > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

> > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated

> > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> lack

> > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > 3348969

> > >

> > > --

> > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > Herman Melville

> > >

> > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ahh, Carol Carol Carol. How can anyone discriminate against you? You wear

your attitude elegantly, and you're so very articulate. Often I read your

comments to my husband, who also has a tongue like a stiletto, and he enjoys

them as much as I do, even when they're caused by a painful experience. I

love your honesty, I love your sense of humor, your realistic view of the

world and those around you. Most of all, I respect your expertise and your

dedication to your residents and work. It is indeed unfortunate that so

many people base their opinion about a person on appearances, ignorance, and

prejudice. I hope you continue to kick butt as often as it's necessary, bc

you know you have most of us behind you, and watching your back. Ride on!!!

Digna

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Carol S. Casey

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:39 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

discriminated against me during my career

said:

" The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal burned

vs. consumed. "

Your comment here is something I have lived with all of my professional

life. I am far from lazy. How dare you make this critical, judgemental

statement. If this is your stance, this is just another reason why

dietitians like me have never felt as if we belong in the group of

dietitian, even though we are very proficient and compassionate in our

profession. It is sad, , that if you mean what you have said here, you

should really try sitting on your posterior instead of wearing it for a hat.

Respectfully,

Carol Casey, DTR, RD, CDN, LDN, FSM

Clinical Nutrition Manager

1988 Graduate of Florida International University

President of Sutdent Dietetic Association 1987-1988

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Luana Tomchak <lst-rd@...

<mailto:lst-rd%40cableone.net> > wrote:

> Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

> rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

> Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

>

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <

> dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>

> > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just

stated

> a

> > generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you

> please

> > explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> > clarification as to the source of this statement.

> >

> > Digna

> >

> > From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf

> Of

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > discriminated against me during my career

> >

> > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

> > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated

> > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> lack

> > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > 3348969

> > >

> > > --

> > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > Herman Melville

> > >

> > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Digna,

You brought a smile to my face on this hump day!

Thank you!

Carol

P.S. You are one of the privileged few dietitians on my Facebook page cause you

understand me. Thank you.

(sent via Blackberry)

" You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " ~ Dolly Parton

Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > discriminated against me during my career

> >

> > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist is

> > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't discriminated

> > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> lack

> > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > 3348969

> > >

> > > --

> > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > Herman Melville

> > >

> > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Interesting, one time 4 of us Dietitians were talking and we all had eating

disordered students (anorexic) in our Dietetic programs. I always wonder

about these future RDs years later. Sometimes there is a misconception that

thin means healthy.

>

>

> I indeed did not want to make it a generalized statement. Unfortunately,

> the RDs that I worked with are overweight due to their lack of activity.

> @Carol--my deepest apologies for the unintentional insult. To clarify, the

> RDs that I have worked do not seem to have the care and compassion that your

> heart holds for your patients. I think as RDs in general we are all

> discriminated upon, i.e. we must all eat healthy ALL the time. And the

> reason why we all got in the profession is b/c we all love food But in

> the end, we must practice what we preach.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> >

> > > > 3348969

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

>

> > > > > Herman Melville

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I feel practice what we preach is that we eat well despite the body makeup we

have, unfortunately we all don't have thin bodies and  sometimes someone who is

not thin can relate better to a patient than someone who is IBW.

Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have discriminated

against me during my career

To: rd-usa

Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 6:49 PM

 

I indeed did not want to make it a generalized statement. Unfortunately,

the RDs that I worked with are overweight due to their lack of activity.

@Carol--my deepest apologies for the unintentional insult. To clarify, the RDs

that I have worked do not seem to have the care and compassion that your heart

holds for your patients. I think as RDs in general we are all discriminated

upon, i.e. we must all eat healthy ALL the time. And the reason why we all got

in the profession is b/c we all love food But in the end, we must practice

what we preach.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

>

> > > 3348969

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > > Herman Melville

> > > >

> > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >