Re: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have discriminated agai...

April 20, 2011

People! Who is this " " person? Present yourself.

I thought we put this all to rest long ago.

(_http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml_

(http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml) )

Apparently Ms. hasn't read much research lately. Doesn't know that

obesity is MULTIFACTORIAL. It's not as simple as calories in and calories

out.

I suggest we table this discussion right now. This is not worth our time.

Sharon Salomon, M.S., R.D.

Freelance Writer

Member, Association of Health Care Journalists

_http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon_

(http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon)

_http://twitter.com/eatingagain_ (http://twitter.com/sharonmatty)

In a message dated 4/20/2011 6:39:20 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

carolscasey@... writes:

said:

" The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal burned

vs. consumed. "

Your comment here is something I have lived with all of my professional

life. I am far from lazy. How dare you make this critical, judgemental

statement. If this is your stance, this is just another reason why

dietitians like me have never felt as if we belong in the group of

dietitian, even though we are very proficient and compassionate in our

profession. It is sad, , that if you mean what you have said here,

you

should really try sitting on your posterior instead of wearing it for a

hat.

Respectfully,

Carol Casey, DTR, RD, CDN, LDN, FSM

Clinical Nutrition Manager

1988 Graduate of Florida International University

President of Sutdent Dietetic Association 1987-1988

> Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

> rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

> Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

>

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <

> dignacassens@...

> > wrote:

>

> >

> > , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just

stated

> a

> > generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you

> please

> > explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> > clarification as to the source of this statement.

> >

> > Digna

> >

> > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

> Of

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> > To: rd-usa

> > Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > discriminated against me during my career

> >

> > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist

is

> > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

discriminated

> > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> lack

> > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> >

> > >

> >

>

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > 3348969

> > >

> > > --

> > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > Herman Melville

> > >

> > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > >

April 20, 2011

REALLY sad thing is that this attitude is widespread in the general

population when they see overweight individuals. I worked with an overweight

Dietitian years ago and a few patients said to me they didn't listen to her

because she must not know what she was talking about. To me they were using

that as an excuse or a scapegoat. Most loved her.

My LPN students told me they would have discriminated against me if I had

been overweight. Mind you over 1/2 smoked and were overweight PLUS 3/4 had

horrible diets. I asked were they going to all of sudden have pristine

health habits once they became an LPN - that shut them up!! I touched on

some of that in my " homemade " movie - not just weight but what we must eat

or not eat according to others perception of the Dietitian!!!

I worked with an Oncologist who smoked but overcame any stigma by being an

excellent MD - patients loved him!! When they finish Chemo, they all get a

bouquet of flowers.

>

> People! Who is this " " person? Present yourself.

> I thought we put this all to rest long ago.

> (_http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml_

> (http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml) )

>

> Apparently Ms. hasn't read much research lately. Doesn't know that

> obesity is MULTIFACTORIAL. It's not as simple as calories in and calories

> out.

>

> I suggest we table this discussion right now. This is not worth our time.

>

> Sharon Salomon, M.S., R.D.

> Freelance Writer

> Member, Association of Health Care Journalists

>

> _http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon_

> (http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon)

> _http://twitter.com/eatingagain_ (http://twitter.com/sharonmatty)

>

> In a message dated 4/20/2011 6:39:20 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> carolscasey@... writes:

>

> said:

> " The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal burned

> vs. consumed. "

>

> Your comment here is something I have lived with all of my professional

> life. I am far from lazy. How dare you make this critical, judgemental

> statement. If this is your stance, this is just another reason why

> dietitians like me have never felt as if we belong in the group of

> dietitian, even though we are very proficient and compassionate in our

> profession. It is sad, , that if you mean what you have said here,

> you

> should really try sitting on your posterior instead of wearing it for a

> hat.

>

> Respectfully,

> Carol Casey, DTR, RD, CDN, LDN, FSM

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

> 1988 Graduate of Florida International University

> President of Sutdent Dietetic Association 1987-1988

>

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Luana Tomchak

> wrote:

>

> > Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

> > rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

> > Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

> >

> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <

> > dignacassens@...

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just

> stated

> > a

> > > generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you

> > please

> > > explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> > > clarification as to the source of this statement.

> > >

> > > Digna

> > >

> > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

> > Of

> > >

> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> > > To: rd-usa

> > > Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > > discriminated against me during my career

> > >

> > > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist

> is

> > > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

> discriminated

> > > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> > lack

> > > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > > 3348969

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > > Herman Melville

> > > >

> > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > >

April 20, 2011

My late husbandÂ (whoÂ struggled with his weight) also said that he didn't

trustÂ theÂ " skinny dietitians " - becauseÂ they didn't understand theÂ problems

that overweight people had in trying to lose weight.Â So how could they help

you???

Â

A.

Â

Most internet quotations are not accurate. " â€” Abraham Lincoln

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:08 AM

Subject: Re: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

discriminated agai...

REALLY sad thing is that this attitude is widespread in the general

population when they see overweight individuals. I worked with an overweight

Dietitian years ago and a few patients said to me they didn't listen to her

because she must not know what she was talking about.Â To me they were using

that as an excuse or a scapegoat. Most loved her.

My LPN students told me they would have discriminated against me if I had

been overweight.Â Mind you over 1/2 smoked and were overweight PLUS 3/4 had

horrible diets.Â I asked were they going to all of sudden have pristine

health habits once they became an LPN - that shut them up!!Â I touched on

some of that in my " homemade " movie - not just weight but what we must eat

or not eat according to others perception of the Dietitian!!!

I worked with an Oncologist who smoked but overcame any stigma by being an

excellent MD - patients loved him!!Â When they finish Chemo, they all get a

bouquet of flowers.

>

> People! Who is this " " person? Present yourself.

> I thought we put this all to rest long ago.

> (_http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml_

> (http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/sept2006pg66.shtml) )

>

> Apparently Ms. hasn't read much research lately. Doesn't know that

> obesity is MULTIFACTORIAL. It's not as simple as calories in and calories

> out.

>

> I suggest we table this discussion right now. This is not worth our time.

>

> Sharon Salomon, M.S., R.D.

> Freelance Writer

> Member, Association of Health Care Journalists

>

> _http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon_

> (http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonsalomon)

> _http://twitter.com/eatingagain_ (http://twitter.com/sharonmatty)

>

> In a message dated 4/20/2011 6:39:20 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> carolscasey@... writes:

>

> said:

> " The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e. lack of kcal burned

> vs. consumed. "

>

> Your comment here is something I have lived with all of my professional

> life. I am far from lazy. How dare you make this critical, judgemental

> statement. If this is your stance, this is just another reason why

> dietitians like me have never felt as if we belong in the group of

> dietitian, even though we are very proficient and compassionate in our

> profession. It is sad, , that if you mean what you have said here,

> you

> should really try sitting on your posterior instead of wearing it for a

> hat.

>

> Respectfully,

> Carol Casey, DTR, RD, CDN, LDN, FSM

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

> 1988 Graduate of Florida International University

> President of Sutdent Dietetic Association 1987-1988

>

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Luana Tomchak

> wrote:

>

> > Have to agree with Digna, that last sentence is over the top rude. Two

> > rudes do not make polite, accepting, and professional people.

> > Luana Tomchak, MHE, RD, LD, CDE

> >

> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Digna Cassens <

> > dignacassens@...

> > > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > , whoever you are? If I'm reading this correctly, you've just

> stated

> > a

> > > generalization that is not only crass, but rude and cruel. Will you

> > please

> > > explain the last sentence? I'm hoping in your zeal you neglected a

> > > clarification as to the source of this statement.

> > >

> > > Digna

> > >

> > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

> > Of

> > >

> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 PM

> > > To: rd-usa

> > > Subject: Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > > discriminated against me during my career

> > >

> > > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist

> is

> > > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

> discriminated

> > > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> > lack

> > > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > > 3348969

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > > Herman Melville

> > > >

> > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > >

April 20, 2011

Although RDs may present with a spectrum of BMI measurements, I hope it is safe

to say that RDs eat to support overall health.

I hope RDs are cheaper to insure because of our overall diets.

I hope as a whole, RDs are healthier than the average person.

Osowski MS, RD, LD

Registered Dietitian

Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > > discriminated against me during my career

> > >

> > > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist

> is

> > > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

> discriminated

> > > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> > lack

> > > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > > 3348969

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > > Herman Melville

> > > >

> > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > >

April 20, 2011

Just heard on the radio this a.m. that of the top 5 *least-stressful* jobs,

not just medical jobs, Dietitian was #3. Couldn't find anything to

substantiate it. :-) Not sure where the data is...

>

> Although RDs may present with a spectrum of BMI measurements, I hope it is

> safe to say that RDs eat to support overall health.

> I hope RDs are cheaper to insure because of our overall diets.

> I hope as a whole, RDs are healthier than the average person.

>

> Osowski MS, RD, LD

> Registered Dietitian

>

> Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > > > discriminated against me during my career

> > > >

> > > > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and nutritionist

> > is

> > > > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

> > discriminated

> > > > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness i.e.

> > > lack

> > > > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > > > 3348969

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. "

> > > > > Herman Melville

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > > >

April 20, 2011

Hate to tell you, but in my many decades in this career, I have mostly found

my jobs to be very stressful, not the other way around. Perhaps it's the

types of positions I've held, mostly in management and finance, and I've

always joked with my clinical staff that they have the easiest job in the

house, bc once done for the day they get to go home and someone else takes

over. Now that I'm doing clinical work again, I have called each one and

apologize for my ingnorant and arrogant statements; their jobs aren't any

easier than mine were during the time we worked together. Now that I'm doing

what they did, I fully understand the pressure they work under. So no, I

doubt our jobs are so unstressful. That data must be garbage. :{

Digna

Re: This is for all those dietitians who have

> > > > discriminated against me during my career

> > > >

> > > > Issues I have with this article: ABCNews thinking RD and

nutritionist

> > is

> > > > interchangeable; believing that size zero vegan RDs aren't

> > discriminated

> > > > against as well. The fat RDs I know, seems to be due to laziness

i.e.

> > > lack

> > > > of kcal burned vs. consumed.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/fat-weight-loss-experts-respect/story?id=1

> > > > 3348969

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > " It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in

imitation. "

> > > > > Herman Melville

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.carolscasey.com

> > > > >

April 20, 2011