Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Have you ever worked with a client who should have have lost more weight following your exercise/diet interventions? I am looking for RD reaction to this recent Zoe Harcombe slide show; Calories, Energy Balance, Thermodynamics, and Weight loss. She is an obesity researcher who along with Toubes, states that " kcals in = kcals out " theory is not valid in humans. According to Zoe, human metabolism doesn't follow the laws of thermodynamics because human metabolism is not a closed system (required condition for 1st law of thermodynamics) and is not in equilibrium (required condition for the 2nd law of thermodynamics). Her slides and her online presentation if you view it, blast holes in the mathematically predicted wt loss equations. http://theharcombedietclub.co.uk/assets/downloads/pdfs/Premier-Fitness-Presentat\ ion-201105.pdf www.zoeharcombe.com Osowski MS, RD, LD Registered Dietitian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Just skimmed the slides: Of course we don't live in a closed system. Our recommendations are based on averages and " your mileage may vary " is a common theme when it comes to human nutrition & weight management. No one diet fits all, no one exercise program fits all; but in the grand scheme you still have to burn more energy than you consume in order to lose weight - if you can keep your engine running (i.e. starvation shuts it down). So we start with a guideline of 3500 kcal deficit needed to lose a lb of fat and adjust based on individual response. Weight loss in a human body will often include fluid shift (up and down) AND changes in body composition if muscle mass is increased. So many variables - our 'engines' do not select only one source of our energy (comes from fats, carbs & protein). And the biggest variable of all is individual metabolism that adjust itself to diet, activity, environmental influences (incl. is it hot or cold weather?). We also know that people who self-report diet & exercise are not always accurate. Two people doing the same workout burn different amounts of calories but the exercise 'machines' don't take that into account. The only way to know for sure is an enclosed space that measures heat (calorie) output calorimetry and that doesn't represent real world. A " pound " of body fat includes fluid in the weight so that calculation may have some flaws. I notice she doesn't think much about dietitians (and part of her reasoning is the corporate sponsorship). She appears to be a nutritionist who blames the government for giving out bad advice when the vast majority of people (both in the UK and the US) don't follow Dietary Guidelines in the first place - so how can you blame the Pyramid, etc for obesity epidemic. Agree very much about eating " real " foods and eliminating processed/non-nutritional foods. Instead of being so negative, I wish she would be POSITIVE in her message.  Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) ________________________________ To: SN ; CVandWellness ; rd-usa Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 1:31:19 PM Subject: Challege to conventional kcals in = kcals out Have you ever worked with a client who should have have lost more weight following your exercise/diet interventions? I am looking for RD reaction to this recent Zoe Harcombe slide show; Calories, Energy Balance, Thermodynamics, and Weight loss. She is an obesity researcher who along with Toubes, states that " kcals in = kcals out " theory is not valid in humans. According to Zoe, human metabolism doesn't follow the laws of thermodynamics because human metabolism is not a closed system (required condition for 1st law of thermodynamics) and is not in equilibrium (required condition for the 2nd law of thermodynamics). Her slides and her online presentation if you view it, blast holes in the mathematically predicted wt loss equations. http://theharcombedietclub.co.uk/assets/downloads/pdfs/Premier-Fitness-Presentat\ ion-201105.pdf www.zoeharcombe.com Osowski MS, RD, LD Registered Dietitian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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